Do you want Wednesday to go into liquidation and (presumably) start again as a Phoenix club?

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Do you want Wednesday to go into liquidation and have to start again as a Phoenix club?

  • Yes

    Votes: 423 77.6%
  • No

    Votes: 122 22.4%

  • Total voters
    545
I voted No because I think a scenario such as that would have the opposite effect.

If they ended up in that situation it would only unite and galvanize them as they romped their way back up the leagues.

It'd be funny at first but they'd ultimately become even more unbearable.

The way to truly hurt them is perpetual struggle with disappointment and hope.

A ten year stint in League One where they keep finishing just outside the play offs would be perfect.
 



To paraphrase Orwell, "If you want a picture of the future, imagine them playing in the FA trophy, and having to organise a raffle to stay afloat, every year - for ever"
 
I see Clive Betts wants any new owners to demolish the Leppings lane end and build a new stand, so in effect a new owner buys the pigs on the cheap doesn't clear any debts they owe but builds them a new stand, like I said in an earlier post don't spend any money on the death trap unless someone else pays for it or helps pay for it. Should have demolished that end of the ground after the disaster but no they spent millions they didn't really have on the team in the early 90's

It seems really odd to me, that 36 years later, our parliamentary defender of all things pig, is suddenly wanting to hit the club with extra costs.

Is he thinking that UK taxpayers would all willingly chip in, to restore this wonderful massive institution, back to their rightful place, atop the Champions League?
 
In all seriousness I reckon the way many United fans relate to this question is based around age. Some older forum members maybe used to watch both teams on alternate weeks and feel slightly ambivalent about their total demise. For many younger United fans we've been top dogs during their lifetime and although they may hate Wednesday they may not want them to go bust because it's been a piss take and an easy 6 points during their lifetime. However I also believe there's a large group of Blades (of which i fall into) that despise the cunts and all that comes with them. Anyone whose formative years took in Boxing day onwards and through the early nineties when (91 double apart) they were better than us and their fanbase was unbearable will absolutely relish their fall from grace and eventual demise. That's a lot of people. Maybe anyone in the 50 - 65 age bracket. These are the people that will have had to put up with all their shit for years without for many years a chance to put it right. Drink it in while you can and if you know a pig rub it in while you can, hopefully they'll not be around much longer.
I’m 26 and would happily see them vanish into the abyss.
 
I vote ‘No’. I’d rather they be miserable as f**k languishing in the lower leagues for years. Coming back as a phoenix club and ploughing through the pub leagues would actually give them pleasure and make them more insufferable. Don’t give them the easy way out.
 
Surely we want them around purely so we can humiliate them twice a season ( unfortunately not for the next 10 seasons minimum due to relagation)
But we will have to put up with their scary fans jumping up and down behind police barricade at Sty Corner.🙀
 
I can't understand why any Blades fans want anything except the very worst to happen to the pigs. I have friends who are pigs, but I want them to go into liquidation. Won't happen as they are a massive club.
You a correct it won't happen ..go dry thee eyes
 
I appreciate the sentiments of wanting them to go out of existence.
But if they did, we'd have no one to deride or laugh at.
I just want to see them suffer the indignity of ALWAYS being beneath us.
I’m sure we’d eventually build a rivalry with Rotherham, Chesterfield or Barnsley. There’s always Leeds & Forest too.

Plus, it might finally give Hull the rivalry they’ve been desperate to manufacture for decades 😂
 



So the final tally was 385 want them gone, 108 didn't (although some in the latter category want them gone without any phoenix club, an option I did not use because it is not a realistic one).

Someone should tell Football Heaven. 500 people is a pretty big sample size.
FH Team

Be amazed if listener numbers for FH are more than a few thousand so it’s a sizeable chunk of the audience.
 
Ooo, this will be fun - other examples of "rival hunters"

or to put it another way - are you one of those teams whose number 1 rival (from your perspective) isn`t reciprocated - or you simply have no direct rival

  • Coventry
  • Leeds
  • Middlesboro
  • Brighton
  • Leicester
  • Hull
  • Reading/Oxford/Swindon
  • Barnsley
  • Tranmere
  • Wrexham
  • Notts County (unless Forest do reciprocate, in which case Derby)
  • Bury (Oldham?)
  • Carlisle
  • Preston??
  • Wigan?
  • Plymouth
Burys direct rival is Bolton
 
What could possibly go wrong?


The manner in which Wednesday fans, behaved in the early days, was incredible. Completely obsequious and deluded. Once again, reminds me of their similarity to Newcastle fans, who have on the whole sold their souls to the Saudi devil.

Now I may be completely wrong here, but I just can't envisage us, United fans, fawning and arse licking an owner (regardless of background) like this. I am staggered that people from the same city are so diverse and different in their attitudes. Perhaps, that is why the rivalry is so fierce.
 
The manner in which Wednesday fans, behaved in the early days, was incredible. Completely obsequious and deluded. Once again, reminds me of their similarity to Newcastle fans, who have on the whole sold their souls to the Saudi devil.

Now I may be completely wrong here, but I just can't envisage us, United fans, fawning and arse licking an owner (regardless of background) like this. I am staggered that people from the same city are so diverse and different in their attitudes. Perhaps, that is why the rivalry is so fierce.
There's no way we would, we're all too cynical and moany for anything like that!
 
There's no way we would, we're all too cynical and moany for anything like that!
Agreed - and I love our cynicism. For those that follow cricket, I always think Joe Root and Michael Vaughan are the personification of being a Blade and a Pig.

Despite his incredible career, Root is a humble and modest man - check his reaction at Brisbane when he scored his 100.

Vaughan is an arrogant and opinionated person, who dines out on a great Ashes as a batsman and another as captain, who adores the sound of his own voice.

Fascinating. Nature or nurture?
 
So the final tally was 385 want them gone, 108 didn't (although some in the latter category want them gone without any phoenix club, an option I did not use because it is not a realistic one).

Someone should tell Football Heaven. 500 people is a pretty big sample size.
Its hardly newsworthy is it? 78% of a teams rivals would rather they didn`t exist. I'd wager the same poll on their board would yield similar results.

If the poll were nationwide I'd say it would be newsworthy - but as it is its not exactly a huge surprise...
 
Its hardly newsworthy is it? 78% of a teams rivals would rather they didn`t exist. I'd wager the same poll on their board would yield similar results.

If the poll were nationwide I'd say it would be newsworthy - but as it is its not exactly a huge surprise...
I did it to explode the myth that “even Sheffield United fans want Wednesday to survive”
 
When Bury FC went bust a set of fans created Bury AFC and they got entry to the 10th tier which I guess on this side of the border would be Northern Counties East League, with them lot, it's either or if they went bust, I imagine their would be some form of resurgence as long as they don't go and invade Sheffield FC, Hallam or Stocksbridge with their fan base. Especially with Stocksbridge being in the Northern Premier League, a buy out of a non league side could allow you to piggy (literally) back up a few divisions and start at level 7 rather than level 10
 
News on Wednesday - perhaps they are not as big or as in demand as they have been claiming....

"I came across this news report that may well explain the delay in receiving further news from Kris.
It was reported this morning on Sky Sports News that the administrators running Sheffield Wednesday are yet to receive an offer that is acceptable to them, and one that they believe is suitable for a single buyer to go forward with the opportunity to purchase the club.
Begbies Traynor had hoped to appoint a “preferred bidder” a week ago, accepting their offer and giving that one party exclusivity to try to complete a takeover. But despite wholesale talks in the last seven days with multiple interested bidders, none has yet broken clear of the competition to proceed.
Looks like we are going to have to be patient and hope that whoever is selected that the EFL endorse them as being fit and proper.
Don't forget all eyes are on this takeover including the new ‘Regulator’ so any potential buyer that’s got a few skeletons in the cupboard will be rejected by the powers that be."
 
It was reported this morning on Sky Sports News that the administrators running Sheffield Wednesday are yet to receive an offer that is acceptable to them, and one that they believe is suitable for a single buyer to go forward with the opportunity to purchase the club.

Translation:

"The administrators, one of whom is an SWFC (1990) season ticket holder, are yet to receive a credible bid that avoids a 15 point penalty being applied to next season - as such they are holding off nominating a preferred bidder in the hope that a unicorn appears out of the fog."

But despite wholesale talks in the last seven days with multiple interested bidders, none has yet broken clear of the competition to proceed.

Translation:

"Anyone who is interested, is not interested in paying any more than they have already offered, and is certainly not interested in getting into any sort of 'bidding war'"
 
Don’t really want them to fold & reform as that will kill the rivalry & they’ll forever claim the moral high ground.
Would rather they just drop & fade into obscurity like Bradford did after over reaching in the prem in the late 90s. Nearly 30yrs of obscurity followed.
 



Some of these do have (or had) genuine long-term rivalries:

Brighton - Crystal Palace (it does exist and isn't daft to their fans).
Barnsley - Rotherham (obviously).
Wrexham - Chester (they are very close despite being in separate countries!).
Preston - Blackpool (obviously again!).
Plymouth - Exeter City (despite Plymouth's recent dalliance with the Championship, they're often in the same division as Exeter).
Middlesbrough do have a rivalry with Sunderland, and they're not keen on Leeds!!
 

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