The Steel City Derby Fixture Statistics

[ThatJa]

Should Campbell score a hat-trick in the return game at the lane next year, he will become joint top scorer of this fixture, funnily enough the current joing top scorers are also players that played for us.

Alan Birchenall (6)
Jimmy Dunne (6)
David Layne (5)
Derek Pace (5)
Tyrese Campbell (3)

On the subject of stastics for the Sheffield Derby, if you were to total up every game by score it would create an 8 goal swing, in the favour of us. 199 goals and a +4 for us and 195 goals and a-4 for them. However, if you only counted official competition matches, the stats would be much different, 184 goals for United, and 170 for Wednesday creating a massive 28 goal swing.

In terms of wins, we lead the way with 52 wins and Sheffield Wednesday with 48. Again, taking into consideration only official matches it would look a lot different, 49 Blades wins to 42 Wednesday wins and only 43 draws.

Historically, Sheffield United have been stronger at Bramall Lane winning 26, drawing 23 out of 60. Sheffield Wednesday have also been stronger at Hillsborough with 25 wins 16 draws in 60.

In terms of results the biggest home win stands at 4-0 for Sheffield Wednesday, and the biggest away win stands at 3-0 to Sheffield United, both at Hillsborough.

The game with the highest result, is Sheffield United's home win that ended 7-3. Which also matches the goal difference of the previous biggest home game.

The players who made the most appearances in a Sheffield Derby are as follows

Joe Shaw (14)
Andrew Wilson (11)

I think its safe to say that, overall at least in terms of head to head, the city of Sheffield has always been....

RED

 

[PragueBlade]

Isn't a bigger home victory our 7-3? Four goal margin is the same, but surely scoring seven wins it?

 

[ThatJa]

Isn't a bigger home victory our 7-3? Four goal margin is the same, but surely scoring seven wins it?

A clean sheet weight is higher on "official" records if the goal margin between games are the same, apparently.

I have however added this game in as the game with the most amount of goals, as this is in actual fact a record.

 

[Superblades]

Should Campbell score a hat-trick in the return game at the lane next year, he will become joint top scorer of this fixture, funnily enough the current joing top scorers are also players that played for us.

Alan Birchenall (6)
Jimmy Dunne (6)
David Layne (5)
Derek Pace (5)
Tyrese Campbell (3)

On the subject of stastics for the Sheffield Derby, if you were to total up every game by score it would create an 8 goal swing, in the favour of us. 199 goals and a +4 for us and 195 goals and a-4 for them. However, if you only counted official competition matches, the stats would be much different, 184 goals for United, and 170 for Wednesday creating a massive 28 goal swing.

In terms of wins, we lead the way with 52 wins and Sheffield Wednesday with 48. Again, taking into consideration only official matches it would look a lot different, 49 Blades wins to 42 Wednesday wins and only 43 draws.

Historically, Sheffield United have been stronger at Bramall Lane winning 26, drawing 23 out of 60. Sheffield Wednesday have also been stronger at Hillsborough with 25 wins 16 draws in 60.

In terms of results the biggest home win stands at 4-0 for Sheffield Wednesday, and the biggest away win stands at 3-0 to Sheffield United, both at Hillsborough.

The game with the highest result, is Sheffield United's home win that ended 7-3. Which also matches the goal difference of the previous biggest home game.

The players who made the most appearances in a Sheffield Derby are as follows

Joe Shaw (14)
Andrew Wilson (11)

I think its safe to say that, overall at least in terms of head to head, the city of Sheffield has always been....

RED

You’re missing the only statistic that matters for the pigs…attendances …even tho they couldn’t sell out today.

 

[ThatJa]

You’re missing the only statistic that matters for the pigs…attendances …even tho they couldn’t sell out today.

 

[I should coco]

You’re missing the only statistic that matters for the pigs…attendances …even tho they couldn’t sell out today.

But surely, 'Bigger, better, older', counts for something in these so-called 'stats'?

 

[Sheffsteel]

You’re missing the only statistic that matters for the pigs…attendances …even tho they couldn’t sell out today.

And don’t forget their new current cheap ticket policy. £20 a match on the Kop , £25 on the North stand and £30 in their South stand.
Whereas we pay £38 on the Kop and £42 in the other stands for half our home games, for example against Watford, Derby, Stoke etc

For years members had a £5 discount off match tickets, this Wednesdayite administrator has recently increased the discount to £10 off match day prices.

I always thought the job of an administrator was to raise as much money as possible
But I reckon he’s lost SWFC £40K revenue by not giving us the bottom tier, like they do every other club.
Even with reduced prices there was still over 800 unsold tickets for the home end, the vast bulk in the lower tier.

 

[Rochdaleblade]

You’re missing the only statistic that matters for the pigs…attendances …even tho they couldn’t sell out today.

Nonsense. It's about how much tat you can sell at the club shop

 

[bruce]

Should Campbell score a hat-trick in the return game at the lane next year, he will become joint top scorer of this fixture, funnily enough the current joing top scorers are also players that played for us.

Alan Birchenall (6)
Jimmy Dunne (6)
David Layne (5)
Derek Pace (5)
Tyrese Campbell (3)

On the subject of stastics for the Sheffield Derby, if you were to total up every game by score it would create an 8 goal swing, in the favour of us. 199 goals and a +4 for us and 195 goals and a-4 for them. However, if you only counted official competition matches, the stats would be much different, 184 goals for United, and 170 for Wednesday creating a massive 28 goal swing.

In terms of wins, we lead the way with 52 wins and Sheffield Wednesday with 48. Again, taking into consideration only official matches it would look a lot different, 49 Blades wins to 42 Wednesday wins and only 43 draws.

Historically, Sheffield United have been stronger at Bramall Lane winning 26, drawing 23 out of 60. Sheffield Wednesday have also been stronger at Hillsborough with 25 wins 16 draws in 60.

In terms of results the biggest home win stands at 4-0 for Sheffield Wednesday, and the biggest away win stands at 3-0 to Sheffield United, both at Hillsborough.

The game with the highest result, is Sheffield United's home win that ended 7-3. Which also matches the goal difference of the previous biggest home game.

The players who made the most appearances in a Sheffield Derby are as follows

Joe Shaw (14)
Andrew Wilson (11)

I think its safe to say that, overall at least in terms of head to head, the city of Sheffield has always been....

RED

I only consider League, League Cup and FA Cup fixtures to be relevant in derby games.
I make it 49 wins for us, 43 draws and 41 wins for them.
I have a 2004 edition of the "Head To Head" book by Peter Waring. The results listed in this publication take us up to the end of the 2002-3 'triple assault' season and the running total at that time is given as W42 D37 L37.
Since then I make it that we have won 7, drawn 6 and lost 4.
Three of those losses came in the two seasons following our relegation from the premier league in 2007.

Anyway, I think a couple of new Sheffield derby records were set today.
Firstly, I do not think any side had lost a Sheffield derby by as much as a 3 goal margin at home. Until today.
Also, I think their run of failing to score in 6 consecutive Sheffield derby league games (probably any games) is is also a record.

 

[Bashambauer]

Great thread. Who was the last Blades player to get 3+ goals in the derby?

 

[Revolution]

Great thread. Who was the last Blades player to get 3+ goals in the derby?

I think Dane Whitehouse: scored in both games in 1991-2 and got a pen at the Sty in 1993-4.

 

[Bashambauer]

I think Dane Whitehouse: scored in both games in 1991-2 and got a pen at the Sty in 1993-4.

Nice - sorry meant a hattrick or more in one game. Don’t know the answer was just wondering as Tyrese wasn’t far from one today…

 

[Revolution]

Nice - sorry meant a hattrick or more in one game. Don’t know the answer was just wondering as Tyrese wasn’t far from one today…

Bill Boyd in a 4-2 win for us in 1933-4 was the last to score a hat trick in a Sheffield Derby in the league.

 

[Bashambauer]

Bill Boyd in a 4-2 win for us in 1933-4 was the last to score a hat trick in a Sheffield Derby in the league.

Cheers sir. UTB

 

[programmechap]

Bill Boyd in a 4-2 win for us in 1933-4 was the last to score a hat trick in a Sheffield Derby in the league.

5-1

 

[anglian blade]

A clean sheet weight is higher on "official" records if the goal margin between games are the same,

That's very strange.Most fans would think a 5-1 was more of a thrashing than a 4-0, possibly because scoring 5 goals is much rarer than scoring 4

 

[Geordie Blade]

That's very strange.Most fans would think a 5-1 was more of a thrashing than a 4-0, possibly because scoring 5 goals is much rarer than scoring 4

It’s also slightly better for league placing (same goal difference but more goals scored).

Conversely, a 0-4 defeat is ‘worse’ than a 1-5 defeat.

So, ‘biggest margin of victory’ depends on which perspective you’re looking at - the winning side or the losing side. Since the record books are neutral in that sense, there’s no real difference. In the old days of ‘goal average’, a 4-0 win is better than a 5-1 win, so I guess that’s why they go with that definition.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Since the year 2000, James Beattie, Leon Clarke and Tyrese Campbell have all scored two goals in a match in a Steel City Derby for the Blades.

I don't know the last Wednesday player to score two goals against us because I can't find match reports that go back so far.



It might have been David Layne some time in the early 1960s.

 

[Selly]

League games only

Win, Draw or Loss
The most consecutive wins is 5, by SWFC from 26-Oct-1912 to 04-Sep-1914. SUFC most consecutive wins is 4 which we have achieved twice 21-Oct-1933 to 26-Feb-1938 and 21-Jan-1950 to 12-Sep-1953. We have an opportunity to add another instance this weekend.

The longest undefeated run is also by SWFC, 11 games between 22-Oct-1910 and 27-Sep-1919 (this included the 5 wins above). SUFC best undefeated run is 7 which we achieved 26-Dec-1896 to 15-Dec-1900 and we are currently 7 games undefeated by them. We have an opportunity to break our own record this weekend.

A Double Double (i.e. completing the double in consecutive seasons) has been done once - by SWFC - as part of the 5 game streak above in the 1912/13 and 1913/14 seasons. We have never completed a Double Double - we can change that this weekend.

Scoring and Clean Sheets

The longest scoring streak is 25 consecutive games by SWFC from 12-Dec-1903 to 27-Sep-1919, for SUFC it is 21 games from 02-Jan-1915 to 26-Feb-1938. Neither team is in any danger of breaking those records this weekend as the current active scoring streaks are 0 for SWFC and 3 for SUFC.

The longest clean sheet streak is 6 consecutive games by SUFC from 12-Jan-2018 to 23-Nov-2025, for SWFC it is 3 games achieved 3 times from 26-Oct-1912 to 25-Oct-1913, 07-Oct-2001 to 01-Sep-2002 and 12-Jan-2018 to 04-Mar-2019. We can extend our streak this weekend.

 

[Frank the tank]

Since the year 2000, James Beattie, Leon Clarke and Tyrese Campbell have all scored two goals in a match in a Steel City Derby for the Blades.

I don't know the last Wednesday player to score two goals against us because I can't find match reports that go back so far.



It might have been David Layne some time in the early 1960s.

Didn't one of them score two when beattie equalised with the free kick

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Didn't one of them score two when beattie equalised with the free kick

Yep, I got it wrong.

Adam Bolder (who?).

The only two goals he ever scored for Wednesday.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Marcus Tudgay scored three goals against us for Wednesday but they were all in different games.

 

[radio]

In relatively recent history Bassett , Warnock and Wilder have all won at Hillsborough and done the double over Wednesday ,, in contrast Wednesday have only won once at Bramall Lane since man first walked on the moon and only done the league double once since the trenches were dug in the first world war

 

[Balham]

Since the year 2000, James Beattie, Leon Clarke and Tyrese Campbell have all scored two goals in a match in a Steel City Derby for the Blades.

I don't know the last Wednesday player to score two goals against us because I can't find match reports that go back so far.



It might have been David Layne some time in the early 1960s.

As Frank the tank says, Adam Boulder scored twice at the Lane in 2008. Efan Ekoku also scored twice when they beat us after extra time in the League Cup in 2000.

Our record at Hillsborough this century is arguably better than our record at Bramall Lane and surprisingly, we've only seen one goal in three matches at home under Wilder.

 

[Silent Blade]

In relatively recent history Bassett , Warnock and Wilder have all won at Hillsborough and done the double over Wednesday ,, in contrast Wednesday have only won once at Bramall Lane since man first walked on the moon and only done the league double once since the trenches were dug in the first world war

Harris did the double in 1961/62 also we beat them in the County Cup

 

[ancientblade]

Harris did the double in 1961/62 also we beat them in the County Cup

i was at the county cup final win at hillsbro think it was 4 - 1 cec coldwell collected the cup and silent that double winning season didnt doc pace get both goals in the 2 - 1 win at hillsbro and the winner at the lane ?

 

[Silent Blade]

i was at the county cup final win at hillsbro think it was 4 - 1 cec coldwell collected the cup and silent that double winning season didnt doc pace get both goals in the 2 - 1 win at hillsbro and the winner at the lane ?

You are right about the league matches.