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The pressure is off him with you. Coventry are very similar to us, a perennial also ran with aspirations but no great expectations. He’ll want better than that, but won’t get a top job. He’ll end up with a club aspiring to the top 10 of the PL with the occasional foray into Europe.
That's why he will stay with us. He has a big chance of making a name for himself as a manager. He celebrates with our players after every game. He loves watching our players improve. He has stated that they all look forward to going in for training.

Why would he move to an also ran club in the Prem when he could easily end up getting the sack? He doesn't need the money. He needs the experience. He has a chairman that backs him. We turned down lots of offers for our players. Now nobody wants to leave. He doesn't want anyone to leave. We have money to spend in January and spaces in our squad.

How much for Hamer? 🤔
 

We don’t score enough goals that’s obvious. However we are clearly lacking goal threat from our midfielders.

Take last season:

Peck - 2929 minutes and 0 goals
Souza - 2791 minutes and 0 goals
O’Hare - 3154 minutes and 2 goals

That’s almost 9000 minutes or 100 games of football between them for 2 goals, which is nothing short of disgraceful.

The fact that Arblaster and Davies combined for more goals (3) speaks volumes.

Take the Hecky season where we had Doyle, Berge, McAtee midfield. All capable scorers and we’ve replaced them with one dimensional players.

I think Peck has especially been given an easy ride from fans. If he needs another player (ie Souza) to defend and he can’t score then what does he do.
They're truly terrifyingly bad stats.
 
We don’t score enough goals that’s obvious. However we are clearly lacking goal threat from our midfielders.

Take last season:

Peck - 2929 minutes and 0 goals
Souza - 2791 minutes and 0 goals
O’Hare - 3154 minutes and 2 goals

That’s almost 9000 minutes or 100 games of football between them for 2 goals, which is nothing short of disgraceful.

The fact that Arblaster and Davies combined for more goals (3) speaks volumes.

Take the Hecky season where we had Doyle, Berge, McAtee midfield. All capable scorers and we’ve replaced them with one dimensional players.

I think Peck has especially been given an easy ride from fans. If he needs another player (ie Souza) to defend and he can’t score then what does he do.

Totally agree. There were no (or was it one) goal from Peck and Vini last season. Not good enough, yet we added no attacking midfielders (unless Chong counts).
 
Luckily for us the only job that might tempt him right now is the England one. He has said being at our club is the next best thing to playing. He still needs to prove himself for a top job. Maybe promotion and then keeping us up.
No club manager in their right mind should take the England job.

It should be a job for failed club managers with a good reputation in the game (Like Southgate). They get the players for a week or so every blue moon and then have the media idiots telling them they should be pumping everyone 10-0 and winning every tournament they enter.

You wouldn’t get a credible club job after 4, 6 or 8 years managing England because the skill set required is completely different.
 
I may be coming around to this way of thinking.

I still can’t stand him from his playing days, he’s up there with Gerrard and Terry as one of the biggest, most arrogant tossers ever to have graced the PL for me.
I always like to listen to the audio of when he called up LBC(?) radio and had a go at the presenter.
 
Pecks actually had 2 decent heading chances in the last 2 games, 1 of them harshly ruled out
The one that disallowed was a ridiculous decision. That said his 2 chances were from corners, Frank Lampard made a career as a midfielder of getting in the box and making forward runs, scored plenty of goals. I like Peck but it’s a massive area of improvement for him, especially of he is going to play in the league above
 
The one that disallowed was a ridiculous decision. That said his 2 chances were from corners, Frank Lampard made a career as a midfielder of getting in the box and making forward runs, scored plenty of goals. I like Peck but it’s a massive area of improvement for him, especially of he is going to play in the league above
If we want Peck to be more of a goal threat we could try using him in the role he played in our youth team, ie RCM.

He's being turned into a holding midfielder with instructions like "don't open that game up until i say we open that game up". It implies restricting himself and playing it safe more than he's used to, and a lot of adapting.

When I watched him for our youth teams he was a creative player. Can't quite remember his goal record though. Can anyone help with that?
 
No club manager in their right mind should take the England job.

It should be a job for failed club managers with a good reputation in the game (Like Southgate). They get the players for a week or so every blue moon and then have the media idiots telling them they should be pumping everyone 10-0 and winning every tournament they enter.

You wouldn’t get a credible club job after 4, 6 or 8 years managing England because the skill set required is completely different.
When we lose Lampard the England managers role would be my choice. I've seen what he has done for us. I've seen how he has improved our players. Being a world class midfielder he knows how to organise a midfield to control a game. He has our midfield playing like he used to. Before Torp got injured he was at the top of the goals table. He put our striker Thomas-Asante into midfield. An average striker at best but is scoring more goals from midfield than he did as a striker.

Lampard is a Londoner. England manager would be perfect for him and he would make the England side great again.
 
When we lose Lampard the England managers role would be my choice. I've seen what he has done for us. I've seen how he has improved our players. Being a world class midfielder he knows how to organise a midfield to control a game. He has our midfield playing like he used to. Before Torp got injured he was at the top of the goals table. He put our striker Thomas-Asante into midfield. An average striker at best but is scoring more goals from midfield than he did as a striker.

Lampard is a Londoner. England manager would be perfect for him and he would make the England side great again.
He’s certainly been there and done it as and England player, but I honestly think the England manager’s job is a graveyard for club managers and should be avoided by anyone with ambition at club level.
 
If we want Peck to be more of a goal threat we could try using him in the role he played in our youth team, ie RCM.

He's being turned into a holding midfielder with instructions like "don't open that game up until i say we open that game up". It implies restricting himself and playing it safe more than he's used to, and a lot of adapting.

When I watched him for our youth teams he was a creative player. Can't quite remember his goal record though. Can anyone help with that?
We don't play with a RCM at the minute though , although for what its worth I would be going that way with a diamond midfield but that's a different debate.

I'm not sure he had any instructions under Selles apart from good luck, but last season he had chances and got forward. I certainly didn't see it as he was restricting himself or being asked too, and with Souza at the side of him he didn't have too. He has the ability to play quicker and at times slows it down too much. All top midfielders play on 2 touch and although it requires movement and options around him, at times the options are there and he takes 4 touch. That isn't a management instruction. When he is in shooting positions he doesn't look confident at all and his efforts are weak in the main, compare with Arblaster start of last season and he is bit behind in that regard. As I say I'm a fan and I think some of the stick he has had is very harsh this year, but the improvements he needs to, and I have no doubt, will make are really obvious, and if he does he will have a cracking career.
 
Came across this article about the increasing tendency for defensive midfielders to score goals, and found it an interesting read. It's from The Athletic:


Link to archive.ph copy of the above article, for anyone having trouble accessing it through the previous link:

 

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