Who to drop?

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

We clearly can't keep starting the same players and expect things to change, so if you can only drop one of our regular starters (we can't score so I've omitted GK/defenders) who is it?

Would be interesting to hear who you'd replace them with also (like for like or involving a reshuffle).

 

[Gimli]

the real question is who are they being dropped for?

The only real alternatives are Ings and Tom Davies who I would definitely be bringing in - if they were fit, which let’s face it, they aren’t.

 

[djbaldken]

We clearly can't keep starting the same players and expect things to change, so if you can only drop one of our regular starters (we can't score so I've omitted GK/defenders) who is it?

Would be interesting to hear who you'd replace them with also (like for like or involving a reshuffle).

Interesting thought.
I was thinking along similar lines. Of the players who were here when Wilder left and are still here now, Peck, Hamer, OHare, Campbell and Cooper were all in excellent form when he left. Selles came in and their collective form went out of the window.
Wilder is now back, and their form is still out the window generally. Why?
Maybe it's some kind of PTSD after playing under Selles which is taking some shifting. I don't know. Hopefully, when Wilder gets to grips with the squad he now has, they will improve.

 

[Hillsboro Blade]

Campbell and Peck for me is a must. I’d start Ine and Ings up front. Campbell is starting to develop a beer gut and man tits. Peck slows it down with too many touches. The first ones I would drop would be the fitness coach (that’s an oxi moron if ever there was one). Love to see them in training. Handing out the fags and cake before training. Half of them spewing last nights ale and kebabs up.

 

[Houston_Blade]

We lost 5 nil last time we dropped Hamer and Campbell so I’d maybe give that a miss.

I’d start with dropping O’Hare and stick another forward in his place, sack off the runaround number 10 role and gerritinbox a bit more.

Ings is the obvious forward to bring in, but then that means we need Cannon on 60 mins and that’s a waste of time.

Poor recruitment has screwed us.

 

[GymClassHero]

We clearly can't keep starting the same players and expect things to change, so if you can only drop one of our regular starters (we can't score so I've omitted GK/defenders) who is it?

Would be interesting to hear who you'd replace them with also (like for like or involving a reshuffle).

Our of those it would be Peck for me. He has improved but he's still nowhere near last seasons level, he looks shot of confidence and I think a period out the side would do him good.

Hamer and Campbell are probably the only two capable of a moment of brilliance to win a game. Ogbene actually beats his man and crosses first time sometimes so for that reason he stays, the only other would be O'Hare potentially, but I feel he brings energy to the team which is something we currently lack.

 

[Danetheblade]

the real question is who are they being dropped for?

The only real alternatives are Ings and Tom Davies who I would definitely be bringing in - if they were fit, which let’s face it, they aren’t.

Peck for Soumare.

 

[SUFC Guy]

I've gone for dropping O'Hare purely to replace him with Ings and change the formation to go 2 up top.

4-1-3-2

 

[Foody]

Has to be Peck for me, he's a young lad and stepped in to the squad with surprising maturity last season, so I don't want to be too hard on the lad. All that being said this season he's really not contributing. His distribution isn't good enough, in terms of speed of thought or range of passing and he isn't a ball winner either.

Hopefully Soumare and Davies will compliment each other and look a more rounded partnership. If Davies can stay fit until Blaster returns.

 

[steve26272]

Peck did ok yesterday, at least he doesn’t hide

OHare, love his running but it’s like a u11 player, chasing round but very little end product - also too lightweight and doesn’t have a unlock in him

If him and Gus had a love child, world beater!!

 

[bartman]

O'Hare and Ogbene for Ings and Seriki(if we keep 3 at the back)Two up front and a strong ,direct wing back

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

Peck absolutely needs dropping. Headless chicken. O’Hare been giving 100% but Wilder has to be ruthless now and pick him or Hamer.

 

[FriethBlade]

We lost 5 nil last time we dropped Hamer and Campbell so I’d maybe give that a miss.

I’d start with dropping O’Hare and stick another forward in his place, sack off the runaround number 10 role and gerritinbox a bit more.

Ings is the obvious forward to bring in, but then that means we need Cannon on 60 mins and that’s a waste of time.

Poor recruitment has screwed us.

I agree re the recruitment but Cooper, Seriki, Burrows, Peck, Ohare, Gus, Campbell were all mainstays of Wilders first 11. That's 7 out of 11 who are the same players. I would then argue that Tanganaga and McGuiness are st least as good as Anel and Robbo.

So we've effectively got 9 of the 11 players who got us to 92 points. The obvious downgrade for me is Souza missing and not having a Moore lookalike to bring on.

All this suggests that the way we are set up and the players mentality is more to blame than the recruitment.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

I agree re the recruitment but Cooper, Seriki, Burrows, Peck, Ohare, Gus, Campbell were all mainstays of Wilders first 11. That's 7 out of 11 who are the same players. I would then argue that Tanganaga and McGuiness are st least as good as Anel and Robbo.

So we've effectively got 9 of the 11 players who got us to 92 points. The obvious downgrade for me is Souza missing and not having a Moore lookalike to bring on.

All this suggests that the way we are set up and the players mentality is more to blame than the recruitment.

You are forgetting our best side has souttar not Robinson there. We hardly gave a shot away for months such was Souza's quality in the championship. We don't have anything nearly as good as him. People were thinking Matos was going to be it. Far far far from it.

 

[MayorOJC]

Would like something like this:

• Good wide threat from Burrows and Seriki
• Hamer as the main central playmaker, able to actually use his right foot for a change.
• Ogbene up top to stretch the defence and free up more space for Campbell.
• 6 players able to play progressive, forward-thinking football on the pitch at the same time (not sure we've had more than 4 at any point this season).
• Also, I'm not sure why Mee plays on the left of the back 3? Looks so weird to see a 36 year old centre-back providing support on the left. It's not something he even used to do even in his 20s. Tanganga was playing as a left back in the premier league as a teenager - use him there and let Mee marshal the defense.

 

[Houston_Blade]

I agree re the recruitment but Cooper, Seriki, Burrows, Peck, Ohare, Gus, Campbell were all mainstays of Wilders first 11. That's 7 out of 11 who are the same players. I would then argue that Tanganaga and McGuiness are st least as good as Anel and Robbo.

So we've effectively got 9 of the 11 players who got us to 92 points. The obvious downgrade for me is Souza missing and not having a Moore lookalike to bring on.

All this suggests that the way we are set up and the players mentality is more to blame than the recruitment.

You make a good point, the thing I’d say is that if we’d had Anel and Tanganga would be better than the current pairings.

Souza is a big miss and Choudhury at RB was far more solid than Seriki/Godfrey. We haven’t got any credible options for the forwards we lost in Moore and Brewster, even though they weren’t very good.

Cooper has gone to shit, Burrows’ stats seem good but his performances haven’t been anywhere near last season.

The whole dynamic of the club has changed from one of optimism to one of desperation, the squad is easily good enough but whether its personnel, attitude or management we’re way short of the mark.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Seriki in at RWB. Ogbene to the wide forward role. O'Hare dropped. If Davies has an hour in him Id bring him in for Matos. Burrows back in: we have no option but to hope he comes good really. I'm not convinced by Mcguinness but I think changing the back three will do more harm than good.

I'm not totally against 3-5-2 with Campbell partnering Cannon. Ings is miles off the required fitness needed to start unfortunately The change after 60-70 would be Campbell for Ings as Campbell isn't fit.

 

[Tickhill Blade]

Seriki in at RWB. Ogbene to the wide forward role. O'Hare dropped. If Davies has an hour in him Id bring him in for Matos. Burrows back in: we have no option but to hope he comes good really. I'm not convinced by Mcguinness but I think changing the back three will do more harm than good.

I'm not totally against 3-5-2 with Campbell partnering Cannon. Ings is miles off the required fitness needed to start unfortunately The change after 60-70 would be Campbell for Ings as Campbell isn't fit.

What we're saying is between all our centre forwards, they can maybe manage 90 minutes between them. Might be a bit of a problem!

 

[AnstonBlade1]

Peck doesn’t do anything, just looks for the safe pass sideways or backwards.
Doesn’t assist or score or anything.

 

[Stretch]

• Good wide threat from Burrows and Seriki
• Hamer as the main central playmaker, able to actually use his right foot for a change.
• Ogbene up top to stretch the defence and free up more space for Campbell.
• 6 players able to play progressive, forward-thinking football on the pitch at the same time (not sure we've had more than 4 at any point this season).
• Also, I'm not sure why Mee plays on the left of the back 3? Looks so weird to see a 36 year old centre-back providing support on the left. It's not something he even used to do even in his 20s. Tanganga was playing as a left back in the premier league as a teenager - use him there and let Mee marshal the defense.

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Happy with that, bar Burrows who absolutely needs a break from the team. McCallum isn't as good going forward but he is serviceable and better defensively.

 

[bonobo]

Would need to be OHare. We will lose something the team needs, which is ability to lead the press and he is one player definitely not lacking in effort. But if we play 3-5-2, then one of him or Hamer has to go and OHare has shown real ability to create chances regularly. He is a forward whose main assets seem defensive, when wer need goals. I also don't think Ogbene has done badly, but would still go with Seriki, he always gets us into the opposition box guaranteed and he does it it by linking up with others, give and go. I would even consider Ogbene up top with Campbell, if Ings is still fit to start. Campbell has still scored two high class goals this season in a team that creates nothing and while he is out of form....only his stamina is a concern for me.

 

[Houston_Blade]

ability to lead the press

Having a player leading the press is pointless if the players behind him don’t also press with him. Even Hull managed to beat our ‘press’ numerous times so we either need to do it properly or try something different.

Contrary to popular belief not all football teams need to press like mad.

 

[Bladesman101]

international break, chance to refresh and get the best players on the pitch to have a fresh start.

Cooper
Mee McGuinness Tanganga
Ogbene Davies Hamer Burrows
O’Hare
Campbell Ings

 

[Bell4]

Campbell and Peck for me is a must. I’d start Ine and Ings up front. Campbell is starting to develop a beer gut and man tits. Peck slows it down with too many touches. The first ones I would drop would be the fitness coach (that’s an oxi moron if ever there was one). Love to see them in training. Handing out the fags and cake before training. Half of them spewing last nights ale and kebabs up.

You’ve reminded me of when I played for the Blue Bell in the Rotherham Sunday league / what you’ve described was the pre kick off ritual

 

[Blademan89]

Drop O'hare & Peck for me, peck massivly out of form from before season started - adds nothing to the game of football apart from some badge slapping. Hes terrible in and around the box, no goals no assist, & last year his G&A was shocking.

O'Hare is just too weak slow, takes too many touches again awful in front of goal, seems scared to shoot. All he does is run around like headless chicken - hes basically the chamionship Matty Done.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Dropping? Dropping?

They all want dropping, lot on um, useless fuckers. I'd drop any on um, second they stepped near me. Set of chuffs.

 

[Nick Jansky]

You’ve reminded me of when I played for the Blue Bell in the Rotherham Sunday league / what you’ve described was the pre kick off ritual

Reminds me of my last couple of years playing, in my mid 30s. I was playing RB and after my first run I would always need to spew. I would head for the centre circle and do it there, knowing it was the part of the pitch I wouldn’t be going anywhere near.

 

[Zeblades34]

Campbell is starting to develop a beer gut and man tits

 

[bladesince64]

He's also got Blakearse.

 

[CornwallBlade]

Our of those it would be Peck for me. He has improved but he's still nowhere near last seasons level, he looks shot of confidence and I think a period out the side would do him good.

Hamer and Campbell are probably the only two capable of a moment of brilliance to win a game. Ogbene actually beats his man and crosses first time sometimes so for that reason he stays, the only other would be O'Hare potentially, but I feel he brings energy to the team which is something we currently lack.

Well, O’hare runs around a lot (which makes him a 10/10 in Wilders opinion) but actually contributes zip