CONFIRMED Chris Wilder 3.0 - Returns for the third spell.

[Almosthuman]

Not sure how with some, Chris is only seen as a pair of Steady Hands?

First time here, utterly transformed the club playing the best football I've ever seen at the lane. Top 10 finish in the Prem. And I honestly believe it not for COVID we'd be established in the prem now.

Second time round, no one was keeping us up and then 92 points which would have normally seen us go up. Yes he had a wobble, but that final wasn't lost by the tactics it was lost by the players bottling it, will admit that nightmare 3 losses in a row was his responsibility but for a season where we had so many changes and off the field issues to contend with. Last season was a good season.

Him coming back in my eyes is less the 3rd time for steady hands and just putting things right because he never should have been sacked in the first place.

If he can bring in a bit more of that attacking style from the first time round, he could turn this season round and we could easily get play offs. There's no one to fear in this league this season.

 

[54yrblade]

You could say there were 92 points for it last season.

And failure when it was in our grasp.

But thanks for that

 

[Glen Luce]

I would bet my life Thomas Frank knew Brentford inside out,Klopp knew Liverpool inside out,Dyche knew Burnley inside out.

Isn't it a managers job to do so?

I don't see how a local,ish, bloke gains an edge because he stood on the terraces of a club he supported.

Wilder at times gives the impression he IS Sheffield United and cannot be questioned.
Loves the adoration from the sycophants though.

When oh when will this club move on.

He had his chance in the prem,couldn't keep us there,partial success.

Grasped defeat from the jaws of victory at Wembley,then sloped off instead of offering support to his players and acknowedging the 'Punters',like the mardy arsed egotist he is,egged on by his mates I imagine.

Almost success but failure ultimately.

He's had his day and is on the downward trajectory as a coach.

He might well be suited to DOF, who knows.
Think he has limitations there and would upset the decision makers who in the past have labelled him a Sunday league manager and I don't think that's entirely unfair,given the antics we witness.

Seems like his way or the highway.

So how can we expect to move forward rinsing and repeating past nearly's hoping this time it just might work.

We're more akin to Roy of the bleedin Rovers than a truly ambitious outfit.

Comic is what it is.

COH is looking like yet another poor choice so I don't have much faith in their ability to replace vertical football man.
Perhaps he meant virtual cos that would aptly describe us.

There's some major decisions to make.Appointing 'The Messiah' will end in tears yet again long term.

Unless they make him errand boy to go and identify a suitable candidate.

Thing is will he need to have frequented the terraces as a kid so he 'get's it/us.

We're not as unique as some wish to think.

All true.

 

[gooseh]

This is some weird shit

 

[luffenhamblade]

When was the last time he did owt?

Last season (perhaps look at the table then and now?) - at least he only had a 2 point deduction last season rather than the 15 we have landed him with this season. I still think he'll save us from the relegation we were heading for.

 

[luffenhamblade]

And failure when it was in our grasp.

But thanks for that

Yes, terrible failure - we're doing far better now without him.

 

[S40BLADE]

I reckon wilder plays this in similar ilk to Blackburn away last season.

 

[PrestwichBlade]

Last season (perhaps look at the table then and now?) - at least he only had a 2 point deduction last season rather than the 15 we have landed him with this season. I still think he'll save us from the relegation we were heading for.

Oh right, you're counting that as success, cool

 

[Slim Man]

The first time was hardly a sticking plaster.

Errrrrrr ok thanks for that captain obvious

 

[chesblade]

Didn't someone ring radio sheffield a couple of weeks ago staying that wilder had been approached and was coming back, if they knew then they were sacking Selles why give him the 2 weeks international break

 

[luffenhamblade]

Oh right, you're counting that as success, cool

Yes, given our current position and the likely outcomes with available managers.

 

[SLB]

Madness he is coming back.

I'm looking forward to seeing how it leaves out the players he didn't sign. Eight was it? Should be interesting.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

I hope CW freshens things up.

Personally I'd like to see him go to 3-4-1-2 with overlapping centre backs and a couple of players with license to roam like Duffy did.

Think we have the players to do so.

 

[Oohaah! Bob Bookah!]

Oh right, you're counting that as success, cool

I’d say getting 92 points is a successful season. How many points would you say is a success?

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

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Ogbene--Peck--Soumare--Burrows

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[ekke287]

Has one person ever milked so much from a club after one successful stint? He’s effectively getting paid twice by us now, a compensation package now a new contract, yet some laud him as the second, well third, coming.

92 points last season masks the fact that most games we could’ve lost 1-0, we had a horrendous record against the top teams and still managed to bottle autos and the playoffs.

The question shouldn’t be is CW coming back, it should be why hasn’t he gone anywhere else?

What a way to divide further an already divided fan base.

Oh well, at least he’ll beat Charlton and thump his chest in front of the Kop.

 

[SRBlade]

Hopefully now this means we won't get a new Wilder thread everyday

 

[LONDON_BLADE]

More likely interim short term contract if it is Wilder until they work out what to do longer term. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s until January or the end of the season

They're showing a bigger set of balls to right a bad decision than compound it and double down with another long shot.

 

[Chezzy Blades]

I was unhappy about the prospect of going backwards (I have nothing against Wilder, just think the time was right for change), but having seen how bad we were on Friday I think, presently, this is the correct move.

Along with a few other posts on here I think Wilder needs to support an overhaul of the club's structure. We need to move with the times as a club, and as shown by the decisions made in the last 12 months we need to get a DoF/Sporting Director/Similar Role on our board with proven experience and expertise over the coming weeks/months. Ruben Selles was clearly not a manager, he was a head coach coming into a role that is still very much a 'fingers in all pies' job.

I hope Selles is successful elsewhere, and I hope more than anything Wilder is successful for us in the here and now. I also hope the board make necessary changes to move the club as a whole forward. If there's a spot in that new structure for Wilder then fantastic, but the bigger picture at the club needs addressing here and it's bigger than Wilder, Selles or any other manager or coach.

 

[Aston max]

 

[PrestwichBlade]

Yes, given our current position and the likely outcomes with available managers.

Fair dos

 

[PrestwichBlade]

I’d say getting 92 points is a successful season. How many points would you say is a success?

I'd say promotion and not bottling it twice would have been success

 

[Wandrows]

Looking at big picture and all sides of the fence, lets say there was a conversation saying to wilder you can remain in charge but we need to attract more investors and need you to be MORE professional, as our figure head so have to crack down on discipline, approaching oppo players etc. also to evolve club we need to bring in a director of football etc and start using data more, also we cant have mates rates and need to be classier round the boardroom and directors for these investors but you run the club and make sure we don't lose the identity, maybe one day you move up to be director of football as we evolve Many wilder out reasons there.


Wilder says ok, i get that, i need to change some aspects but not lose what we are. Half the board says ok, other half (inc bord, a gambler) says we need to change completely. For some reason they follow bord, thus wilder leaves with good faith of some of the board. Other half who didn't believe he will change have now been proven wrong, so they go back to plan A. Therefore no brainer for wilder to come back as he is aligned to the other half of board already.

These things are never black and white and its possible to have a bladey blade and a future plan where wilder out and wilder followers are both wrong or right, but in between is probably a decent way forward with changes that satisfy all our fans to importantly actually support the team on the pitch so the manager isn't the focus (am sure some man u fans hated Ferguson's gum chewing, or chelsea fans mourinho but who cares cos the team did the talking) and we can them get behind them as a joined up fanbase.

 

[1066blade]

Has one person ever milked so much from a club after one successful stint? He’s effectively getting paid twice by us now, a compensation package now a new contract, yet some laud him as the second, well third, coming.

92 points last season masks the fact that most games we could’ve lost 1-0, we had a horrendous record against the top teams and still managed to bottle autos and the playoffs.

The question shouldn’t be is CW coming back, it should be why hasn’t he gone anywhere else?

What a way to divide further an already divided fan base.

Oh well, at least he’ll beat Charlton and thump his chest in front of the Kop.

Selles wouldn't have beaten Charlton. Just get behind Chris and the team.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

My ask now is that we use this time to properly plan how to modernise the club.

 

[Kona]

I’ll admit that I was of those who wanted us to go in different direction (not the bottom of the league though!) but always felt that the speed of change without, what appeared to be a proper foundations and planning was a huge risk.

That being said, I’m glad to see Wilder coming back but hope that it’s with a DOF, a longer term plan, and without the antics.

Bring back the badge thumping and the passion… and welcome home Chris!

 

[Tom Bott]

Has one person ever milked so much from a club after one successful stint?

'Milked' from the hundreds of millions he made FOR the club.

Show us the Chris Wilder balance sheet, where he lost money for the club during his tenure.

Then do the same for Selles, Slavisa Jokanovic, Brian Robson and the dozens of other managers we have engaged to provide us with success.


"But he sung about sausage rolls and 'took' millions when he left" -
jesus wept.

 

[nopigfansintown]

All manager's are sticking plasters. If they do very well and you're not a huge club they leave. Wilder is actually a semi antidote to that. On several occasions there was better moves for him (after Champ season one, after/during Prem season one) when he stayed for sentimental reasons and didn't act like your common or garden football mercenary (plaster). In hindsight he should've put his own career first. Of course it paid off the first time against all the odds, but it was an illogical thing to do. There's maybe five or six clubs he'd leave us for imo which isn't normal.

A footballing structure/infrastructure around the manager is another POV. I have sympathy with that argument.

 

[PrestwichBlade]

'Milked' from the hundreds of millions he made FOR the club.

Show us the Chris Wilder balance sheet, where he lost money for the club during his tenure.

Then do the same for Selles, Slavisa Jokanovic, Brian Robson and the dozens of other managers we have engaged to provide us with success.


"But he sung about sausage rolls and 'took' millions when he left" -
jesus wept.

I'd say it's about level after he let a couple of hundred mill slip through his fingers twice last season

 

[Tom Bott]

No one has 'trotted' out the "but he has no plan B" criticism for a while.

At least he has a plan A - win football matches.