He's going nowhere!

[Rodley]

I’m on record saying he’s done. I don’t expect him to be here much longer. But my point, which you appear to have misunderstood, absolutely stands. Gutless & weak? Far less so than many of the posters on here. Not even debatable.

I imagine people would understand you more if you were capable of making a point without every time insulting those who you disagree with.

 

[Shawy24]

Fronting up to the fans after the game and accepting responsibility in the post match interview suggest that he is far less gutless and weak than, say, your average keyboard warrior.

Or just as arrogant and clueless.

 

[Linzip]

He needs fucking off ASAP. Clueless, gutless, weak. We are an absolute shambles, rudderless in fact.

The players don't appear bothered on the whole and don't look to be buying into his philosophy. Without Tanganga yesterday would have been 5 or 6.

It's a matter of time before he gets the boot, he's not going to turn things around so get shot now and give Dyche or Cooper whatever they want to try and turn this absolute shit show around.

Pathetic.

SELLES OUT

Totally agree. He should never have been appointed. If you read his Wiki page he’s done nothing and is not equipped for the job. How the board ever thought he was ill never know.

 

[Aston max]

In the cold light of day , I watched the match again last night after the boss went to bed ( glutton for punishment I guess) .
He needs to rethink the formation 4-3-3 it isn't working ( not with the midfielders we've got fit ) . We're wasting hamer and ohare playing them in the central 3 they both need to be further forward.We need to go back to 4-2-3-1 . hopefully if it's true and we sign matos ? and Ollie and tom Davies will be back by the next games . ( Unless someone has an update)
Can't understand why he's agreed to the soumare signing and not play him , Godfrey showed flashes that he's going to be a good signing . Tanganga was immense but we need to sign Mee to put a solid centre half pairing together ( and let bindon and nils get up to speed with the championship .
Burrows looks short on confidence and it's affecting his game. For some reason peck has gone backwards I think it's because selles is trying to use him as a CDM and it's not his natural position .
Impressed with ings as well.( If we can keep him fit obviously)

Cooper
Godfrey, tanganga, Mee, Burrows
Soumare,matos ( or Ollie/Davies)
Hamer has to be centre in the 3
From here it's fit the rest in on form

As always UTB

 

[1973Blade]

If you were to get an AI version of our last few managers it would come up with the sentence, "Listen, we are in a situation where the geese are flying in formation and I'm not 'appeh about that".

 

[Shawy24]

So we can him immediately. 4 games in. Should we do the same in 4 games time with the new guy should results be no better?

It's wank right now. But firing him so soon further erodes our already 'waffer thin' integrity.

Nope. You lost me there. Why is our integrity wafer thin?

 

[Nick Jansky]

Perhaps fronting up was brave but it looked more like defiance than accepting any kind of responsibility
Same with the post match interview on sky. When asked by the interviewer why we didn't create enough chances he said I don't accept that. We created enough opportunities to get something from the game.
Being stubborn and deluded at the same time are not great traits for us to hang our hat in that he can change this situation.
Playing that midfield 3. When we've all seen it doesn't work is just a working example of the above.
I can't see a way back for him from this.
As Rodley said. He's cooked.

Another one missing the point of my post. I’m not defending his management. I’ve also said he’s done. I’m merely pointing out the irony of gutless and weak people calling him gutless and weak contrary to the evidence. Some are taking exception to that because today any post that doesn’t paint him as the devil incarnate in every respect is fair game for the hard of thinking.

 

[skegblade]

No matter who the manager is on Tuesday then unless we've brought a big CF who can hold the ball up as well as winning headers, this group of players (not really a team yet) cannot function properly no matter what the formation. Also handy to have such a player to defend free kicks and corners.
Wrexham got one for around 2 million so It should be relatively easy for us to get one.

You mean similar to the one we let go to Wrexham?

 

[FlamingLip]

Nope. You lost me there. Why is our integrity wafer thin?

Canning of Wilder. Back to the question - do we sack the next one in 4 games as well?

 

[Cheeky Blade]

He's watching different games to the rest of us

This is the kiss of death for me.
Unless he can change that and face the reality on the pitch rather than his laptop, he’s fucked.

 

[Nick Jansky]

You mean similar to the one we let go to Wrexham?

He’s now playing for a manager who plays to his strengths.

 

[Railway Blade]

Another one missing the point of my post. I’m not defending his management. I’ve also said he’s done. I’m merely pointing out the irony of gutless and weak people calling him gutless and weak contrary to the evidence. Some are taking exception to that because today any post that doesn’t paint him as the devil incarnate in every respect is fair game for the hard of thinking.

My apologies but I have never seen him as gutless. Clueless possibly but nothing to suggest the other.

 

[Nick Jansky]

My apologies but I have never seen him as gutless. Clueless possibly but nothing to suggest the other.

You will note that my original post didn’t take exception with that word.

 

[Wards]

Fronting up to the fans after the game and accepting responsibility in the post match interview suggest that he is far less gutless and weak than, say, your average keyboard warrior.

Or, in fact, most of the players who are getting a free pass for the most part.

Spinless shit bags

 

[Nick Jansky]

Or, in fact, most of the players who are getting a free pass for the most part.

Spinless shit bags

Yep, there will always be a big question mark over the character of all of the players who were also here last season.

 

[deplorable]

Or, in fact, most of the players who are getting a free pass for the most part.

Spinless shit bags

I don't fully buy into this about the players TBH.

There wasn't a lack of effort yesterday and same can be said for other games this season in my opinion, but more a lack application and quality from some (i.e. Bindon, Brookes, etc are not Champ level yet).

The application of the players can come down to many things such as respect for the coach, not understanding the system, not agreeing with the system, frustration, confidence, etc, etc).

 

[Wards]

I don't fully buy into this about the players TBH.

There wasn't a lack of effort yesterday and same can be said for other games this season in my opinion, but more a lack application and quality from some (i.e. Bindon, Brookes, etc are not Champ level yet).

The application of the players can come down to many things such as respect for the coach, not understanding the system, not agreeing with the system, frustration, confidence, etc, etc).

I do agree with a lot of that to be fair. But, by the same token, it's hard to defend the likes of Campbell who barely broke a sweat yesterday.

 

[bakeblade]

He’s already cooked. The fans have gone and he won’t get them back. It’s beyond the point of no return already.

If we see a few sensible team selections and tactical changes, improved work rate and commitment from the players leading to some good results the fans will get back onside.
Unfortunately I don't see any of this happening

 

[@thelane]

Sorry chaps but listening to this, he's staying put. Can't say I blame him as he's still pretty new in the job and desperate to do well. Made a few good signings in Godfrey, Ings and Tanganga and should we get another one or two in who improve the squad, who knows. International break, an extra week to try and get everyone on board and if we still look shite then it's never going to work so that'll be the point of no return I'd guess. Not sure what the owners are thinking, they're invisible so who knows.

I'd normally be frothing at the mouth to be honest but seeing that 'sacked in the morning' shite after the game was fucking cringeworthy for me, and I actually felt sorry for the bloke. Whoever came in after Wilder was going to be met by weeping and wailing from the poor little lambs who'll never get over losing 'Our Chrissy' and even if we'd won four on the bounce they'd still be fucking moaning.

Anyway, fuck Danny Rohl because talk of getting him is fucking embarrassing. Lets see what the transfer window brings and try to chill a bit, Bill Shankly was wrong, it's really not more important than life or death.

UTBFTP

The only thing cringeworthy is Selles still in a job. Wanting a (much) better manager Is not embarrassing, it’s vital.
A manager who says he disagrees that we did t create chances is deluded. We’ve lost 5 on the bounce, the team is confused, disorientated and all confidence has been stripped. He needs to go now.

 

[deplorable]

I do agree with a lot of that to be fair. But, by the same token, it's hard to defend the likes of Campbell who barely broke a sweat yesterday.

Not sure that the service to a CF is of the level expected TBH, and certainly not what he received last season in quite a few of the games, again could this be frustration, which is then resulting in a lack of belief of what is happening around him?

 

[blAdes96]

Let’s just be blunt.

Did we need to make a change & should we have sacked Wilder? No.

Despite playoff heartbreak, which was upsetting he turned the squad around, in 1 window. 17 departures & 13 incomings & as a collective still put 92 points on the board.

Was the football always pretty? No.

We all glamour for pretty football, but I hate to break it, this is a fucking results business. Selles has got 5 defeats in a row, with turgid football. We can’t afford to waste 5-to-10 more games already!

Under Wilder, at least we were defensively competent. We at least created. “Crappy, scrappy 1-0 luck wins” from moaners - don’t care, a win is a win. Points are what matters.

This “attacking football” philosophy based “coach” hasn’t produced a shot on target for 3 matches, we’ve not scored since Hamer produced a moment of magic from halfway in the cup, Selles, clearly looks out of his depth. His interviews are delusional saying “we look like a team” & “we are producing opportunities & creating” - he’s not watching the games we are watching unfold.

 

[Wards]

Not sure that the service to a CF is of the level expected TBH, and certainly not what he received last season in quite a few of the games, again could this be frustration, which is then resulting in a lack of belief of what is happening around him?

If he isn't getting the service then he needs to keep showing for it at least, not sulk and hide behind a defender.

We can all see he's currently feeding off scraps but he's probably one of the senior players in there now. Show some willing and desire.

He's undoubtedly frustrated - many of them probably are. But for me that was as poor a forward display I've seen in many a year. Ings did more than both Campbell and Cannon did in 5 minutes.

 

[skegblade]

He’s now playing for a manager who plays to his strengths.

Selles didn't have a chance to

 

[Edwards of Nazareth]

Have you seen anything that makes you think 5 points from the 3 games is likely.
There is no improvement at all in any of the games sofar and he can't even see the problems. He needs To go now

^^. Exactly this. It’s not just the defeats- it’s the nature of the defeats too. There doesn’t seem to be any tactics or shape to our play. Add to that the players don’t seem to be trying for him. There’s no coming back from this. He’s done

 

[deplorable]

If he isn't getting the service then he needs to keep showing for it at least, not sulk and hide behind a defender.

We can all see he's currently feeding off scraps but he's probably one of the senior players in there now. Show some willing and desire.

He's undoubtedly frustrated - many of them probably are. But for me that was as poor a forward display I've seen in many a year. Ings did more than both Campbell and Cannon did in 5 minutes.

I think that Ings and Campbell are two different types of CF's, one plays best off the shoulder and needs the appropriate service, the other is in the mould of more of a traditional CF, back to goal, link up play and can make an effort at goal from his own industry.

 

[Frank the tank]

It just looked like a game to me where if we just had a five minute spell we could have got something maybe even a win as Boro were pretty average
Never happened though

 

[blade too long]

The 1-0 defeats to Millwall and Middlesbrough are exactly the same results as last season.

But we were not shite for 90 minutes in last years losses...yes we can lose games...but we are rudderless ...tell me what system we are playing I like Selles dont have a f#cking clue what our set up is

 

[Shawy24]

Canning of Wilder. Back to the question - do we sack the next one in 4 games as well?

No. Shouldn’t be necessary. The next one might understand how to manage a football team. If he or she doesn’t, then you clearly have to conclude that the owners are incompetent at which point you may as well pack it in. I’m not sure you share my conviction that Selles is the worst Ive seen since Weir and he will not get any better. You seem to imply that I’m after sacking every manager that doesn’t get a win a game. No. I believe this guy doesn’t know what he is doing and nobody could be worse.

 

[KMC-1889]

We’re 2 points behind Ipswich. Absolutely no one is anywhere near suggesting McKenna should be sacked.

 

[Tony Currie]

Whatever happens, he needs some time to actually decide and train the players. We gutted the team and are slowly getting new players in.

I don't like us losing either, but we've got to be grown ups - the context of the defeats is pretty clear - the club weren't ready for these matches. Not Selles... the club weren't ready.

I really hope next season is the first for ages that we're actually ready for. After lessons learned etc.

Selles seems smart and seemed popular at former clubs. If we can't believe better is to come, supporting a football team is pretty pointless.

He had a full preseason, he was not that popular at former clubs (see Roys View). He talks a good talk (probably why he got the job) and is an exotic Spanish coach but in football management it is all about delivery and I don't see where he has delivered at any club. His best finish being 17th at Reading. Just a disaster of an appointment.