Is this the worst start

[jono_t2000]

By any Championship final playoff loser since Championship playoffs began?

Can't say for sure but I'd be surprised if any other Championship final playoff loser has lost their first 4 competitive fixtures by a wider margin than us.

 

[BrayfordsBushyBeard]

It’s only 3 games !!!!
Change your sheets and let’s revisit in October!
As ever UTB !

 

[I should coco]

It’s only 3 games !!!!
Change your sheets and let’s revisit in October!
As ever UTB !

Ah, the perennial bedwetter allegation, followed by the disingenuous kicking of the can down the road.

Yes, let's revisit in October. We probably won't be bottom, but I'm damn sure we won't be in the top half.

 

[Weasel]

Ah, the perennial bedwetter allegation, followed by the disingenuous kicking of the can down the road.

Yes, let's revisit in October. We probably won't be bottom, but I'm damn sure we won't be in the top half.

Agree. It is rather boring now, the shout of 'bedwetter' from super duper loyal blades fans who keep repeating the same mantra of let's see where we are in .....

If we were being run by Chansiri you would still have some on here wanting to take the opportunity to make themselves look like a cross between James Bond and Snoopys Joe Cool, by shouting out 'bedwetter' and saying let's see where we are in 20 years... whilst sticking a laughing emoji in for good measure (clue that sad act who supports Weds who rob's post offices, also does that in all his bollox online to try and look like he is super funny...as well as intelligent, whilst he actually has the intelligence of a slug).

Er actually no. Let's comment on the here and now and what's happening in front of our eyes. I'm all for proportionality and having thoughts and views which are not extreme either way, but there is no reason why things at the club shouldn't be questioned on an ongoing basis. Its what fans do. Well those who don't want to look super cool anyway and end up looking like a disparaging ostrich with its head in the sand. If people don't question and ask for better, nothing changes.

Back to the opening post. No idea pal, but I suspect that no PO final team has ever started the following season so badly. I think SUFC have just equalled its worst start to a season outside the top league. Cracking stuff, but let's stop getting sheets wet (ey up...look at me, im right cool) and let's just think everything is 'reight gud' and it ifs not 'it'll be reet in't end'.

 

[BrayfordsBushyBeard]

I am not a super loyal happy clapper and we all know what we are watching is nowhere near good enough , as much as the bedwetting is annoying- which I wholeheartedly agree with btw- so is trying to find every possible angle to have a dig . If we are going in a completely different direction surely it was a bit naive to think it would be easy . Would I have changed managers? Probably not but I also moaned a bit at times last year too . What I am hoping to see is some form of improvement over the coming weeks but I didn’t expect us to be flying straight away . I also didn’t expect what we’ve got atm . It’s not exactly season over after 3 games and for all of Milwalls chances missed we also could quite easily had at least a point which gives us at least something to build on . Worryingly the next couple of fixtures look tough .
As ever UTB !

 

[Rodley]

Ah, the perennial bedwetter allegation, followed by the disingenuous kicking of the can down the road.

Yes, let's revisit in October. We probably won't be bottom, but I'm damn sure we won't be in the top half.

It’s now moved on from Bedwetters to Wilderettes, both dished out to anyone who can see we look absolute dog egg and are performing worse than Wednesday’s circus.

 

[Snowflake]

Agree. It is rather boring now, the shout of 'bedwetter' from super duper loyal blades fans who keep repeating the same mantra of let's see where we are in .....

If we were being run by Chansiri you would still have some on here wanting to take the opportunity to make themselves look like a cross between James Bond and Snoopys Joe Cool, by shouting out 'bedwetter' and saying let's see where we are in 20 years... whilst sticking a laughing emoji in for good measure (clue that sad act who supports Weds who rob's post offices, also does that in all his bollox online to try and look like he is super funny...as well as intelligent, whilst he actually has the intelligence of a slug).

Er actually no. Let's comment on the here and now and what's happening in front of our eyes. I'm all for proportionality and having thoughts and views which are not extreme either way, but there is no reason why things at the club shouldn't be questioned on an ongoing basis. Its what fans do. Well those who don't want to look super cool anyway and end up looking like a disparaging ostrich with its head in the sand. If people don't question and ask for better, nothing changes.

Back to the opening post. No idea pal, but I suspect that no PO final team has ever started the following season so badly. I think SUFC have just equalled its worst start to a season outside the top league. Cracking stuff, but let's stop getting sheets wet (ey up...look at me, im right cool) and let's just think everything is 'reight gud' and it ifs not 'it'll be reet in't end'.

Whilst I understand your point it is very difficult for any of us to guess where we might be in October until this window closes.
If we bring in 2 or 3 quality players in the right positions then we will be somewhere near the top. All other moves (or lack of moves) will produce differing end results.
Using the phrases “bedwetters” and “ happy clappers” does not in my view add to any of the discussions.

 

[Weasel]

I am not a super loyal happy clapper but we all know what we are watching is nowhere near good enough , as much as the bedwetting is annoying- which I wholeheartedly agree with btw- so is trying to find every possible angle to have a dig . If we are going in a completely different direction surely it was a bit naive to think it would be easy . Would I have changed managers? Probably not but I also moaned a bit at times last year too . What I am hoping to see is some form of improvement over the coming weeks but I didn’t expect us to be flying straight away . I also didn’t expect what we’ve got atm . It’s not exactly season over after 3 games and for all of Milwalls chances missed we also could quite easily had at least a point which gives us at least something to build on . Worryingly the next couple of fixtures look tough .
As ever UTB !

I think most Blades agree with what you have posted. But what is tiresome is that some on here seemingly have an inability to accept the views of others who are questioning the here and now. Its possible to question what's happening now and still think that there may be a change in the short, medium, or long term.

Not having a pop at you personally here, but there are some on here who just look like they would accept any old shit from the club and who just can't any criticism of their beloved Blades. They are just as annoying as those who come on here and love to criticise anything and everything SUFC do. Both are extremely tedious and tiresome. I suppose what gets my goat was the amount of people on here who until our actual manager came out and said it wasnt good enough, we're still using the 'bedwetter' mantra re incoming signings, when it was clear as day there was a major issue with recruitment and it could majorly contribute to us losing games at the start of the season.....

The opening poster wasnt going into the why and why nots of the failings so far as they are covered on numerous other threads. They just simply asked a valid question about opening starts to a season for SUFC. The fact that the 'bedwetter' accusation was then mentioned in the following post, was rather discourteous to them, I thought.

 

[Weasel]

Whilst I understand your point it is very difficult for any of us to guess where we might be in October until this window closes.
If we bring in 2 or 3 quality players in the right positions then we will be somewhere near the top. All other moves (or lack of moves) will produce differing end results.
Using the phrases “bedwetters” and “ happy clappers” does not in my view add to any of the discussions.

Id agree with that.

I don't know where this juvenile 'bedwetters' and 'happy clappers' stuff has come from. Most people have a view, most are moderate, and some are extreme either side of the fence. There a lot of stuff on here I disagree with but thats not my concern. I just post what I think. I don't feel the urge to start telling anyone who doesn't agree with me that they are one thing or another (unless they start with the insults personally).

Its perfectly acceptable for some to question our performance so far in all aspects of the club, without some silly name calling from a responding poster who just wants to say 'let's see where we are in.....'.

 

[Shawy24]

I am not a super loyal happy clapper but we all know what we are watching is nowhere near good enough , as much as the bedwetting is annoying- which I wholeheartedly agree with btw- so is trying to find every possible angle to have a dig . If we are going in a completely different direction surely it was a bit naive to think it would be easy . Would I have changed managers? Probably not but I also moaned a bit at times last year too . What I am hoping to see is some form of improvement over the coming weeks but I didn’t expect us to be flying straight away . I also didn’t expect what we’ve got atm . It’s not exactly season over after 3 games and for all of Milwalls chances missed we also could quite easily had at least a point which gives us at least something to build on . Worryingly the next couple of fixtures look tough .
As ever UTB !

“Didn’t expect us to be flying”. ?

This is a dead duck it ain’t gonna fly. It is presently covered in five spice sat in a packet on a shelf in Aldi waiting to be purchased and then roasted by a discerning shopper. Or more classically it is a dead parrot

It’s passed on! This parrot is no more! It has ceased to be! It’s expired and gone to meet its maker! This is a late parrot! It’s a stiff! Bereft of life! It rests in peace! If you hadn’t nailed it to the perch, it would be pushing up the daisies! It’s run down the curtain and joined the choir invisible! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!

Feel free to bookmark and copy and paste with an egg on face meme when Selles proves to be the best manager we’ve ever had and the only one to succeed in the playoffs. (But I doubt it).

 

[Weasel]

Highly likely that Selles won't be here for much longer anyway so the bookmark, copy and paste won't be needed. I'd be amazed if the SUFC hierarchy aren't already putting feelers out to agents of other managers as it can't go on (piss poor results or even general play getting better) much longer.

Would be a shame as I liked the idea of Selles bringing a new dimension to the team (I wouldn't have hired him though in the first place) and was all for it post CW. But im all for feeling better about my teams results on a Saturday evening and thats been total shite so far. Hes on borrowed time if he doesn't improve things quickly.

 

[BrayfordsBushyBeard]

Do you genuinely believe he will be gone soon ? Can we afford to sack him but then again another couple of defeats offering little can we afford not to ? Was a strange appointment and I really wanted it to work but just not sure if it’s a bit too radical too soon ? No doubt we will see over the coming weeks if the owners have the balls to stick with him .
As ever UTB !

 

[PrestwichBlade]

I think most Blades agree with what you have posted. But what is tiresome is that some on here seemingly have an inability to accept the views of others who are questioning the here and now. Its possible to question what's happening now and still think that there may be a change in the short, medium, or long term.

Not having a pop at you personally here, but there are some on here who just look like they would accept any old shit from the club and who just can't any criticism of their beloved Blades. They are just as annoying as those who come on here and love to criticise anything and everything SUFC do. Both are extremely tedious and tiresome. I suppose what gets my goat was the amount of people on here who until our actual manager came out and said it wasnt good enough, we're still using the 'bedwetter' mantra re incoming signings, when it was clear as day there was a major issue with recruitment and it could majorly contribute to us losing games at the start of the season.....

The opening poster wasnt going into the why and why nots of the failings so far as they are covered on numerous other threads. They just simply asked a valid question about opening starts to a season for SUFC. The fact that the 'bedwetter' accusation was then mentioned in the following post, was rather discourteous to them, I thought.

I think what's really tiresome is those expressing concerns of the here and now (absolutely fine btw), largely then seem unable to do so without dropping Wilder's name in somehow. I genuinely understand people are still raw about him going, but it's done, to keep debating it is pointless, it ain't changing. As a counterpoint, I also think it's not helpful using the term 'bedwetters' for any concerns raised.

 

[GymClassHero]

Ah, the perennial bedwetter allegation, followed by the disingenuous kicking of the can down the road.

Yes, let's revisit in October. We probably won't be bottom, but I'm damn sure we won't be in the top half.

This is a scenario where bed wetting is fully fucking justified IMO. We are bottom of the league, below the pigs despite the shambles they are (what does that make us?). No excuse for losing 4/4 I get it can take time to implement a style but literally the only period I've seen from the four games where we looked even half decent, was the last 10 vs Milwall.

Make no mistake, we are bang in trouble. I'd feel slightly better if I had faith in the boards' decision making, but at present I don't.

 

[shorehamview]

I don’t know, and I can’t be arsed to look.

 

[blade too long]

Ah, the perennial bedwetter allegation, followed by the disingenuous kicking of the can down the road.

Yes, let's revisit in October. We probably won't be bottom, but I'm damn sure we won't be in the top half.

on whatweve seen how are we going to rise up ,, 1 touch in the opposition box ,, no shots on target
are not going to get us goals or wins

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Leeds lost the Championship play off final in 2005-06 and then finished 24th the following season.

But even they didn't lose their first three games of the season.

They were deducted 10 points but would have gone down anyway.

 

[Weasel]

I think what's really tiresome is those expressing concerns of the here and now (absolutely fine btw), largely then seem unable to do so without dropping Wilder's name in somehow. I genuinely understand people are still raw about him going, but it's done, to keep debating it is pointless, it ain't changing. As a counterpoint, I also think it's not helpful using the term 'bedwetters' for any concerns raised.

I agree. I'm bored senseless of the posters who seemingly can't get past the fact Wilder has gone. I liked him, thank him for his efforts and for the success he brought us, and thats it. Its over. He's now an ex employee. I hope that it stays that way as it means as a club we have gone in a new direction and with new ideas. But I do see why some cling to Wilders SUFC managerial memory as.it was usually a successful period for tbr club. I think most fans were accepting enough to know it was the right time for a parting of the ways, and most (me included) were cautiously optimistic. But we need the right man to have come.in and hit the ground running to settle a few nerves. It couldn't have gone any worse so far, hence the hankering back by some.

These are the sort who would split up with a long term girlfriend after the relationship had come to a natural end, get hooked up with another lass, move in with her, and then find out she also did things that got on their tits, and they then start thinking back to those golden memories with the ex, remembering all the good parts only and forgetting about the parts which led to the split up in the first place. Wilders gone, move on. Selles might also have gone soon (but I hope not as it means hes turning it around quickly).

 

[Menage a petit pois]

For the life of me I cannot fathom how a few quality additions will, somehow, miraculously, change our fortunes. Do we not realise that this clueless, fucktard will still find a way of getting less out of those players?? In all probability by playing them out of position, by not playing them at all, or, as seems increasingly apparent, by asking them to play a system that is completely and utterly unsuited to their strengths or capabilities. We have played 3 run of the mill teams and picked up zero points. Fuck me, at least the pigs for all the shit they are in, are actually rolling up their sleeves and fighting! We could and should be so much more than what we are...the fact that we aren't rests solely with the person in charge. Get him gone before its too late.

 

[MTBlade]

To answer the OP question, yes it probably is.

We were warned the change of direction would be tough.

Did we think it would be this tough, no.

This season has been rubbish and so was the end to last season and they are facts.

Wether you are pro CW or pro change, no United supporter can be happy with the last few months watching United.

We went from a very strong position to getting promotion, to absolutely blowing it with a last 10 league games of i think, 2 wins, 1 draw and 7 losses.
That is very poor form and to my eyes, the total opposite of someone building something, when results got worse.

This season has carried on that form with the added player sales and releases, without replacements coming in.

A change of manager has happened with a total change in formation and style, is it too much at once?

The performances as last season, have me questioning what is the plan. I couldn't see one last year and I can't see one this season.

What i know is not helping, is the massive split in the fan base.

The last several months have been rubbish being a fan which started last season.

 

[dexter101]

Thing is. It's not the saying we are rubbish that's the problem. It's the solution being offered.

It's like moving into a new house. Some people didn't want to move but we have been in there 3 weeks and the wife is screaming let's move. Why not give it a bit of decoration, try some new furniture first before moving which could just end up with the same crap, but you had to carry a sofa up and down 2 flights of stairs and you fucked your back

 

[Not_a_Cheat]

It’s only 3 games !!!!
Change your sheets and let’s revisit in October!
As ever UTB !

It's 4 competitive games

 

[I should coco]

Thing is. It's not the saying we are rubbish that's the problem. It's the solution being offered.

It's like moving into a new house. Some people didn't want to move but we have been in there 3 weeks and the wife is screaming let's move. Why not give it a bit of decoration, try some new furniture first before moving which could just end up with the same crap, but you had to carry a sofa up and down 2 flights of stairs and you fucked your back

A decent analogy, but you missed the fact that the sofa doesn't fit, we've got no money for paint and the decorator is fucking clueless.

 

[dexter101]

A decent analogy, but you missed the fact that the sofa doesn't fit, we've got no money for paint and the decorator is fucking clueless.

absolutely. But still not sure moving makes any of the other stuff better.

 

[Kenilworth]

Don’t know the answer to the OP but the opinion I have seen most is the Hull 0-3 result. Odd because we dominated that game but lost to counter attacks and everything they hit going in. Hardly a coaching or tactical masterpiece by Selles.

The board has changed a manager and his staff to to bring in a coach and 2 x rookie coaches. Hardly surprising that it’s a shit show.

If Ings & Redmond are 2 players being brought it then the AI data driven model has spectacularly failed with first XI recruitment selection and we are now scraping the barrel of Selles previous connections.

 

[Not_a_Cheat]

How many defeats in a row (or games without a win) is enough. In your opinion. To get clueselles out the door?

Asking for a friend

 

[Kenilworth]

How many defeats in a row (or games without a win) is enough. In your opinion. To get clueselles out the door?

Asking for a friend

We’re on SeLLLLLes already.
Is Friday adding another L?
I expect so, despite the panic buying at the end of the window.

They went for every CB they could go for and bagged the lot. It might make us more difficult to beat but I’m not sure how we solve the goals for issue.