Incoming? Djibril Soumaré

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He was more proven because he played a full season in the 2nd best league in the world. Not 20 games in Portugal. Souza also played far more senior games. Does any of that count as an argument at all? Or do I have to agree that this isn't a punt then?
The last Senegalese player we signed came from the English non league. That's a pretty poor standard compared to Portugal. He turned out to be the best player we've seen in red and white since Tony Currie
 

So just to be clear you're all agreeing hes better than Souza. And you're basing that on a YouTube video and blind positivity towards the new owners. Hard to hide from reality over a 46 game championship season so

Oh no its not subjective at all fella. There is a league table we can use to compare.

You've used one example of me "moaning" and it's this example.

Love to know if many of you responding here actually go and watch football. If someone said this in pub would you be accusing them of being a Wednesday fan? So weird. Of course it’s a punt.
Let’s not revise history. Souza looked good for the half of last season, when has wasn’t injured or suspended. He was absolutely awful in the Premier League, and if memory serves, one of the worst offenders for downing tools when the season went to shit.
 
Let’s not revise history. Souza looked good for the half of last season, when has wasn’t injured or suspended. He was absolutely awful in the Premier League, and if memory serves, one of the worst offenders for downing tools when the season went to shit.
I completely agree. I'm not saying Souza was amazing but we know how good he was last season. I dont think im being overly negative to suggest this is gamble on a totally unproven. Obviously thats my mistake and I've now outed myself as the Wednesday fan I am
 
I completely agree. I'm not saying Souza was amazing but we know how good he was last season. I dont think im being overly negative to suggest this is gamble on a totally unproven. Obviously thats my mistake and I've now outed myself as the Wednesday fan I am
Chill. Be honest, had you heard of Souza before we signed him? I hadn’t. So what’s the difference? The fee? Braga are certainly operating at a level above Lommel. I fail to see how this is an outrageous risk over and above Souza’s signing,
 
Chill. Be honest, had you heard of Souza before we signed him? I hadn’t. So what’s the difference? The fee? Braga are certainly operating at a level above Lommel. I fail to see how this is an outrageous risk over and above Souza’s signing,

How many starts did Soumane have for Braga? He’s only a nipper so can’t be many.
 
So just to be clear you're all agreeing hes better than Souza. And you're basing that on a YouTube video and blind positivity towards the new owners. Hard to hide from reality over a 46 game championship season so

Oh no its not subjective at all fella. There is a league table we can use to compare.

You've used one example of me "moaning" and it's this example.

Love to know if many of you responding here actually go and watch football. If someone said this in pub would you be accusing them of being a Wednesday fan? So weird. Of course its a punt.
It’s a punt your right of course you are but….

He’s big
He’s black
He looks athletic

We are hoping for a Patrick Vierra, at least have an open mind, I’m just happy knowing he’s not 5ft6.
 
How many starts did Soumane have for Braga? He’s only a nipper so can’t be many.
No idea. But then, I didn’t have a clue with Souza either. Given the age difference I’d expect him to have more. I’m not saying it’s not a risk, of course it is, but constantly shopping in the ‘late-20s-British-EFL-experience’ aisle will (has) put a glass ceiling on the clubs progress.
 
How many starts did Soumane have for Braga? He’s only a nipper so can’t be many.
He's never played for Braga but I dont imagine anyone posting here has done research to that level which is why they're posting screenshots of Braga's last 10 year history like they've made some kind of point.
 

So just to be clear you're all agreeing hes better than Souza. And you're basing that on a YouTube video and blind positivity towards the new owners. Hard to hide from reality over a 46 game championship season so

Oh no its not subjective at all fella. There is a league table we can use to compare.

You've used one example of me "moaning" and it's this example.

Love to know if many of you responding here actually go and watch football. If someone said this in pub would you be accusing them of being a Wednesday fan? So weird. Of course its a punt.
You're right, it's a gamble. But people want to be excited because it's different from what we've done before and it looks a bit more like what we've seen from clubs that have passed us by the last few years.

I think people are also over-reacting to your posts because (rightly or wrongly) you're getting a reputation as someone who is so upset about Wilder leaving that you're going to be negative about everything we do.
 
The last Senegalese player we signed came from the English non league. That's a pretty poor standard compared to Portugal. He turned out to be the best player we've seen in red and white since Tony Currie
Gibbs’s-White is Senegalese ?!
 
You're right, it's a gamble. But people want to be excited because it's different from what we've done before and it looks a bit more like what we've seen from clubs that have passed us by the last few years.

I think people are also over-reacting to your posts because (rightly or wrongly) you're getting a reputation as someone who is so upset about Wilder leaving that you're going to be negative about everything we do.

There is a weird bit of groupthink from a handful where the skepticism on new signings’ quality gets shouted down yet any talk of promotion as an expectation gets the same treatment.

“…they will be our saviours, COH”

 
How many starts did Soumane have for Braga? He’s only a nipper so can’t be many.
Twice. Once in the Champions League, once in the cup. Spent last season on loan at Nacional in the Portuguese top flight making 23 apps (21 starts). Started pretty much every game from Jan onwards.

His fotmob rating is decent in an arguably tougher league. Looking at his stats he's pretty much a younger Souza.



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There is a weird bit of groupthink from a handful where the skepticism on new signings’ quality gets shouted down yet any talk of promotion as an expectation gets the same treatment.

“…they will be our saviours, COH”


Nailed it
 
He's never played for Braga but I dont imagine anyone posting here has done research to that level which is why they're posting screenshots of Braga's last 10 year history like they've made some kind of point.
Mate - come on. That’s more than a little disingenuous. I say again, did you know anything about Souza before he signed? And as bladesmanluke said, the best player I have ever seen in the shirt came from non-league
 
I think people are also over-reacting to your posts because (rightly or wrongly) you're getting a reputation as someone who is so upset about Wilder leaving that you're going to be negative about everything we do.
Does feel like that. Really I'm just very wary of the new owners because we have absolutely no idea what they're like and they now own something I care deeply about. And obviously was very unhappy about Wilder which I think is justified.
 
There is a weird bit of groupthink from a handful where the skepticism on new signings’ quality gets shouted down yet any talk of promotion as an expectation gets the same treatment.

“…they will be our saviours, COH”


I think we’re probably all guilty of a bit of confirmation bias, aren’t we? Those of us who thought Wilder’s sacking was a bad idea are seeing signs of disaster and those who thought it was the right decision are seeing the green shoots of an exciting new direction.

Not sure about groupthink but I can speak for myself: on an emotional level, during the summer I like to feel positive and excited about the coming season and possibly could be more patient with those who see it differently. It’s hard when the exact same people say the exact same things every year. Working on it.
 

Mate - come on. That’s more than a little disingenuous. I say again, did you know anything about Souza before he signed? And as bladesmanluke said, the best player I have ever seen in the shirt came from non-league
The point is its abuse back at me while sending totally irrelevant stuff like Braga's history. If you're gonna slag someone at least look at the basics of the argument
 

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