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Thankfully a thing of the past .
According to Danny Kelly who was subsequently banned from the BBC for the statement was his conclusion that end of serious organised football hooliganism was partly due to the drug of choice changing at that time from alcohol to pills etc .

Acquaintances who were part of that put it down to the introduction of cctv outside grounds , the police didn't have to wade in they just came and arrested you at work or home on a Monday morning.

Probably several factors played apart but the remnants can still be seen amongst the stone island brigade.

The youngsters who still like to dress for the part are referred to a cbeebies by the old guard.
 
Are the ones in the middle doing the Haka?

The BBC was a thing of its time. They liked a day out and a scrap. No different to many others clubs lads and they were well thought of in those circles. But we all get older and the lads back then are mostly grandparents or great grandparents (or dead). One of my close family members was a Beeb boy and was well known for it. Hes got older, retired, and is a lovely bloke. Still goes to the Lane but is a good as gold now. Basically, hes grown up a bit later than he should have. But he still enjoyed himself by the sound of the tales he tells. So did I, as I was mostly at the same games back then, I just chose to entertain myself differently to what he did then on match day as I liked a laugh and a gargle rather than trouble and being locked up. Thankfully most have moved on.
 
I’m fascinated by hooligan culture (and other sub cultures), I don’t know what it is about it but I suppose it was everything that went with it - the fashion, the drugs, the camaraderie, sometimes the music - the sub-culture that existed that gave a demographic of young males something to feel part of and excited about. A lot of bad occurred of course it did but it make lots of young blokes feel alive - like certain music movements and the like. Very little does that these days and I’m not advocating for its return but just fascinated by it.
 
It's still unbelievable to me that around 20 years ago loads of "hooligan" books were released, I read the Blades one but I suspect they were all the same, full of tall tales embellished for literary purposes.
Like those books about so called hard men. Full of stories like 'he looked at me funny so I kicked his head in.' Books for people who have the Rise of the Footsoldier box set. There's a podcast from the old Boxing News editor Tris Dixon, Boxing Life Stories. A few years ago he interviewed ex Sheffield boxer Richard Towers. Jesus wept, was like a parody of those books. All he seemed to want to talk about was how many people's heads he had stoved in. I found it both traguc and funny at the same time. 🤣
 

I consider myself a semi-expert on football hooligan films (I have no time whatsoever for the real thing) - that's almost certainly the best.
Please go on mastermind with that as your chosen subject. The gasps in the audience as host asks

"What football chant did the under cover police join in with in the film ID?"

And is followed by your answer

"I believe its, your going to get your fucking head kicked in"
 
Abbeydale Grange away day. Still meet MH for a pint before the match.
Do you, Ive got a couple of relatives on there and quite a few good friends, the guy with the arms out is a great pal of mine Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou knows him quite well ;) I bet I know you if you know Mark, I grew up with him, close friend for over 40 years.
 

Do you, Ive got a couple of relatives on there and quite a few good friends, the guy with the arms out is a great pal of mine Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou knows him quite well ;) I bet I know you if you know Mark, I grew up with him, close friend for over 40 years.
See him in the lion before matches. Also Monday nights with some of the older lads. It's Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou dad if I'm not mistaken.
 

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