Outgoing? Brewster

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LurkerBlade said:
He scored 4 goals and 3 assists (all four goals won us points) whilst not playing in his natural position.

Wouldn't complain if you said not good enough for a team going for promotion but "crap" and "league one" are over the top.
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Agree to disagree because I feel for the money the most ill judged signing in our history…and I’m not alone in this view
 

LurkerBlade said:
He scored 4 goals and 3 assists (all four goals won us points) whilst not playing in his natural position.

Wouldn't complain if you said not good enough for a team going for promotion but "crap" and "league one" are over the top.
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Brewster tried really hard, it just hasnt worked for him. his four goals have won us points, however his performance and lack of availability over the 4 years are the reason we are in the Championship still.

as a right winger, where he mainly played his last lot of games, Ryan Flynn was more productive
 
Dave said:
Brewster tried really hard, it just hasnt worked for him. his four goals have won us points, however his performance and lack of availability over the 4 years are the reason we are in the Championship still.

as a right winger, where he mainly played his last lot of games, Ryan Flynn was more productive
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Errol Flynn was more productive
 
A lot of us were very understandably excited when we signed Brewster. I thought he was a long term Billy Sharp upgrade and we were heading for sustained Prem football.

It's not like Brewster is the first transfer to not work out. And the rich clubs have wasted more money on countless players, that didn't work out at all. Rhian's main problem was terrible injuries, which is almost certainly not his fault.
 
originaltrueblade said:
Agree to disagree because I feel for the money the most ill judged signing in our history…and I’m not alone in this view
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I’ve generally stood up for Brewster and his contribution, in part because I think his transfer fee has been constantly held against him and blinded any potential impartial analysis on what he can bring to the team. But you would be hard pushed to find a worse signing in our club’s history when you factor in both the price and what we actually got out from him. It was a signing that to me just never made sense.
 
brownblade said:
A lot of us were very understandably excited when we signed Brewster. I thought he was a long term Billy Sharp upgrade and we were heading for sustained Prem football.

It's not like Brewster is the first transfer to not work out. And the rich clubs have wasted more money on countless players, that didn't work out at all. Rhian's main problem was terrible injuries, which is almost certainly not his fault.
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Even before his injuries occurred, the lad looked like he had won a raffle to play big mesters football, definitely had our pants tugged down over him, L1 level at best.
 
LurkerBlade said:
He scored 4 goals and 3 assists (all four goals won us points) whilst not playing in his natural position.

Wouldn't complain if you said not good enough for a team going for promotion but "crap" and "league one" are over the top.
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That’s not good enough for our record signing and one of the highest earners at the club.

Glad he’s off the wage bill and we’ve hopefully learned a very expensive lesson. Some other club will take a punt on him but I’d be amazed if he’s troubling the upper half of the league. Can’t say there’s been much interest other than his agent floating stories which probably says the most.
 
TJ blade said:
Even before his injuries occurred, the lad looked like he had won a raffle to play big mesters football, definitely had our pants tugged down over him, L1 level at best.
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Right, he struggled for various reasons, not helped by us being crap.

But he'd banged them in for years in Liverpool youth and reserves. Liverpool poached him from Chelsea. He'd scored 10 in 20 games in 6mths at Swansea. Just to check - does it sound like a competition winner? Things don't always work out.
 
originaltrueblade said:
Agree to disagree because I feel for the money the most ill judged signing in our history…and I’m not alone in this view
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The money he cost is entirely irrelevant as a fan. What is relevant is whether he’s good enough for the level he’s at.

My view, based on performances
Championship - yes, undoubtedly
Premier league - not seen anywhere enough but looked out of his depth.

Fitness and injuries have meant that he’s just not been able to show enough at championship let alone premier league. But this last season has been his best playing a variety of positions and not looking out of place in a side aiming for promotion

I think he’ll end up back in the championship if he can keep his fitness up, he may get into a lower end premier league side. But I think the end result will be that he won’t stay enough for long enough and he’ll end up in league one…. Until the latter end of his career when he’ll be a valuable player in an upper championship side
 

I'd say Wilder got a bit too cocky with the signing.

We signed Brewster like Newcastle signed Osula. A prospect that could become great in the future.
What we needed in our 2nd PL season was a seasoned pro who could definitely score goals - an Ings or a Welbeck type signing.

We chucked a big chunk of money at a prospect when we weren't an established PL team.

We see it with Bournemouth as an example now. They signed Alex Scott, one of the best young championship midfielders when they signed him. He's only recently broken into their first team properly.
Injuries and wankness meant Brewster was thrown in at the deep end for us
 
Yet to see anything concrete about him, but it's a sad situation all around.

I don't want to spark up another fucking pointless argument around Brewster on here, as there have been more than enough already, but I think he'd do well under Selles. A change in approach would likely spark him into life, which I reckon will probably happen if/when he signs for someone else.

He's had an excess of injury troubles, at a club which has had moderate to severe injury crises in the time Brewster has been here. I wonder if some of his issues have been exacerbated by the environment he's been expected to train/play in.

He's not played well, admittedly. However, for about half of the time he's been here, the club hasn't played well at all (both PL seasons were dire, plus the time Slav was in charge, we weren't pulling any trees up). Had we been experiencing more consistently positive performances on the pitch, maybe he would have had the opportunity to flourish.

As far as the transfer fee goes, we certainly have not gotten the expected return on investment. That said, I think it was foolish to go spending roughly 20 million quid on a striker with half a season of success at Championship level, and anticipate said player smashing the Premier League.

Brewster's time has been a perfect storm of bad luck and poor decisions, by those responsible for him signing in the first place, for those responsible for coaching him, for those responsible for his physical wellbeing, and by Brewster himself.

If this is the time where he and the club part ways, I thoroughly hope he finds success elsewhere. He's not a bad person - it just seems that things were not meant to work out for him here.

I'll certainly remember who put the ball in the Wednesday net though.
 
We must have felt there was a place for Brewster in the squad , hence the negotiations. But the past injuries and inconsistencies means that we couldn't rely on him being a regular first team player next season. That would have reflected in the financial package we offered him.
If Brewster (and his agent) feels he is worth more and can find a club prepared to take the gamble then he goes with my best wishes.
 
Shadota said:
Yet to see anything concrete about him, but it's a sad situation all around.

I don't want to spark up another fucking pointless argument around Brewster on here, as there have been more than enough already, but I think he'd do well under Selles. A change in approach would likely spark him into life, which I reckon will probably happen if/when he signs for someone else.

He's had an excess of injury troubles, at a club which has had moderate to severe injury crises in the time Brewster has been here. I wonder if some of his issues have been exacerbated by the environment he's been expected to train/play in.

He's not played well, admittedly. However, for about half of the time he's been here, the club hasn't played well at all (both PL seasons were dire, plus the time Slav was in charge, we weren't pulling any trees up). Had we been experiencing more consistently positive performances on the pitch, maybe he would have had the opportunity to flourish.

As far as the transfer fee goes, we certainly have not gotten the expected return on investment. That said, I think it was foolish to go spending roughly 20 million quid on a striker with half a season of success at Championship level, and anticipate said player smashing the Premier League.

Brewster's time has been a perfect storm of bad luck and poor decisions, by those responsible for him signing in the first place, for those responsible for coaching him, for those responsible for his physical wellbeing, and by Brewster himself.

If this is the time where he and the club part ways, I thoroughly hope he finds success elsewhere. He's not a bad person - it just seems that things were not meant to work out for him here.

I'll certainly remember who put the ball in the Wednesday net though.
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The best post about Rhian Brewster that I've ever read on here (and there have been many!).
How refreshing to see a balanced and considered view that takes in the full scope of the situation, instead of the usual moronic name-calling or hero worship at either end of the spectrum.
I wish there were more posts like this on this forum.
 
£40mil spent on Brewster and McBurnie and we got 8 league goals over 5 seasons from Brewster and only 26 league goals from McBurnie over 5 seasons. Both walked for free and have to go down as the most expensive mistakes ever in our history.

Unless Selles can get a tune out of Cannon then that figure could be £50mil. And some question why many wanted a director of football instead of Wilder. He was great with low fees for League One players but God awful with any bigger money signings. Thrown in Mousset and it's already £50mil down the toilet so Cannon could boost that to £60mil of wasted funds.
 
Tony_Kaufman said:
£40mil spent on Brewster and McBurnie and we got 8 league goals over 5 seasons from Brewster and only 26 league goals from McBurnie over 5 seasons. Both walked for free and have to go down as the most expensive mistakes ever in our history.

Unless Selles can get a tune out of Cannon then that figure could be £50mil. And some question why many wanted a director of football instead of Wilder. He was great with low fees for League One players but God awful with any bigger money signings. Thrown in Mousset and it's already £50mil down the toilet so Cannon could boost that to £60mil of wasted funds.
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Tbf, Mousset and McBurnie scored a fair few goals that first prem season which contributed to another 100 mil +. I think everybody in the team that season paid for themselves. OK maybe not Callum Robinson.
 

WhittingtonBlade said:
Tbf, Mousset and McBurnie scored a fair few goals that first prem season which contributed to another 100 mil +. I think everybody in the team that season paid for themselves. OK maybe not Callum Robinson.
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They scored 11 between them. That's hardly a fair few. Other teams have got defenders who outscored them. I laugh when people say "McBurnie was our top scorer." I don't think I've met fans of any other team who celebrate a striker being top scorer with only 6 goals. But then again, most fans don't celebrate and accept mediocrity as the norm like some of ours do.

It's not like we reinvested that extra £100mil. We spent a quarter of that on Brewster and a large chunk on Ramsdale.
 
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