CONFIRMED Rubén Sellés - Three year deal

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Dkc said:
But after all his work I think it's poor that he wasn't given next season to finish the job and potentially leave on a high - especially given that he has been replaced by someone who has no promotions to his name and has no bond with the club and its fans.
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Yes, you’ve said. Loads of times. I think we’ve got it now.
 

Nick Jansky said:
Not getting remotely mad. Just pointing out that you’re repeating yourself a lot.
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Plenty of people have said on multiple occasions that it's 'time to move on' from CW due to him 'bottling it' and playing 'turgid football' with 'no plan B'. I note you are not losing your rag with them.
 
Dkc said:
Plenty of people have said on multiple occasions that it's 'time to move on' from CW due to him 'bottling it' and playing 'turgid football' with 'no plan B'. I note you are not losing your rag with them.
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I’m not losing my rag with anyone 😊.

I don’t see many saying that at the moment. Wilder has gone and isn’t coming back any time soon. Selles is now the manager. Understandably there were a lot of posts around Wilder’s departure, with a lot of people unhappy about it. Fair enough.

But it’s happened, and the debate has moved on to a consideration of the merits or otherwise of the new manager. And respect to Wider’s fans for that, for the most part they have largely moved on very quickly. That’s healthy. There are just a few stragglers left.
 
its nowt to do with us were just fans we never get a say its ruthless up top the money men ok i was dissapointed chris wilder wasnt given another go but we cant change nothing were just blades fans we mean nothing they could have handled it better they took there time in clarity that tufty had gone but give ruben selles a chance its who they chose to lead us forward hes all weve got so back him its not good slating him hes not had one game all i know hes a nice fella who talks nice things about the blades he wants POWERFULL FOOTBALL im all for that intensity and PASSION and he said we will win every game thats positivity for you i hope hes a success. and prooves his haters wrong no one is good enough fr sme fans arrr ffs ,,utb..forza ruben sellas forza blades ,,utb...I CALL HIM POWERFULL RUBEN a winner,,chow
 
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blade too long said:
are the usual moaners backing this appointment expecting fast flowing ball to feet sexy football
from a coach whos only ever known escaping relegation tactics, hail mary football


why all the optimism now when you never offered wilder any

the knives were out from the day he was re appointed

if we get relegated next season I will recall all the bile put his way and apportion the blame without fear or favour

all the negative nellies will be outed

ill put it on record this is the worst appointment since martin peters, and he had some stature
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I was a happy clapper for Wilder, and then Hecky, and then Wilder, and now Selles.
I’m just a happy clapping sort of fan. :)
 
Nick Jansky said:
I’m not losing my rag with anyone 😊.

I don’t see many saying that at the moment. Wilder has gone and isn’t coming back any time soon. Selles is now the manager. Understandably there were a lot of posts around Wilder’s departure, with a lot of people unhappy about it. Fair enough.

But it’s happened, and the debate has moved on to a consideration of the merits or otherwise of the new manager. And respect to Wider’s fans for that, for the most part they have largely moved on very quickly. That’s healthy. There are just a few stragglers left.
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Glad you think it is time to move on. Thank God for superior beings like you being here to make decisions for us. Look forward to you to give the green light for when we can start moaning again if we have a slow start to the season.
 
KOPPO said:
i back the blades no matter what im upset tufty has gone in the way he did but nothing we can do were just blades fans we dont matter but youve been chosen so ill ge behind you i hope the 3yrs contract you have isnt cut short when they change there mind like they did with king blades god chris wilder he has a 3yrs deal to 2028 then they ended that deal its left a bitter taste ill only back you because its not your fault all this sham im a blade i want WINS i want 3 points so welcome to the blades ruben selles i hope you play energy intent positive attacking football from the back ,all the best to you i hope you WIN,,good luck but its wont be easy we want wins ,,utb..
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Ffs get over it wilder wasn't a god we need to move forward new ideas new management get behind the badge
 
Two points. Firstly, this new guy won't see out his 3 year contract.
Second point. These absolute hypocritical anti Wilder brigade who urge everyone to get behind the new manager like they never did with the previous one need to be as 'objective' as they have been in the past when it comes to critiquing our teams performances in the future.
 
Alfiesdad said:
Two points. Firstly, this new guy won't see out his 3 year contract.
Second point. These absolute hypocritical anti Wilder brigade who urge everyone to get behind the new manager like they never did with the previous one need to be as 'objective' as they have been in the past when it comes to critiquing our teams performances in the future.
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Do people honestly think that if Selles sees the team tank next season he won’t be criticised?

If he’s crap he’s crap, no one wants him to be (apart from the Wilderites).

The owners are clearly trying a different approach, because the past suggests that if we stick with the likes of Wilder and Hecky we’ll end up back in the Championship pretty sharpish if we do get promoted. That’s not to say that both of these didn’t do fantastic jobs against the odds to get us into the PL but then pretty quickly saw to us getting relegated again due to limitations of the squad (Hecky was hard done to by the board in fairness to him, Wilder lost the plot during Covid and never recovered).

Abdullah and McCabe took it upon themselves to appoint Wilder, the stars aligned and we got our club back. It was a great time to be a Blade. I’d say that he’s now established his ceiling and this may be the next phase in the club’s development under its next set of owners. Hopefully it sees us stronger in the future, it might go tits up, but without trying we’ll never know.
 
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Jimmy Fleck said:
Perhaps you’ve received trauma induced amnesia from Tommy Watson, but we lost the play off final a number of weeks ago. There’s no promotion soon. And wilder had never managed at league one level before us either- it was definitely a gamble.
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Keep that memory ..might be some time till we get near another play off...shows how good Wilder did ...starting with what Adkins left him to be 9th in the prem in 3 seasons
....but that's nothing compared to sellers keeping Hull up on gd
 

Alfiesdad said:
Two points. Firstly, this new guy won't see out his 3 year contract.
Second point. These absolute hypocritical anti Wilder brigade who urge everyone to get behind the new manager like they never did with the previous one need to be as 'objective' as they have been in the past when it comes to critiquing our teams performances in the future.
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Why do you think the people who are urging to get behind Selles, never got behind Wilder?

If we are regularly playing boring football under Selles, throwing promotion away and drawing unwanted negative attention to the club, I’ll be the first to want him gone. Until then, he deserves the opportunity to show us what he can do.
 
Stop making out Wilder was some loser in 8 out of 10 seasons 90 points would have taken us up
And only forcing VAR on us for 1 game really was the difference. As a Blade come August I will be my usual 1000 per cent hopeful about us,
But .its not what I'd call an inspitational appointment..I'm sure there was a chance of a far more experienced manager who wasn't 100 per cent a prospect, a may come good one day manager. The last manager with no achievements we tried was Weir, AI is cracking at playing with photos, not sure it's ready to pick our team
Didn't data led technology say we'd beat Sunderland....its not infallible
 
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blade too long said:
Stop making out Wilder was some loser in 8 out of 10 seasons 90 points would have taken us up
And only forcing VAR on us for 1 game really was the difference. As a Blade come August I will be my usual 1000 per cent hopeful about us,
But .its not what I'd call an inspitational appointment..I'm sure there was a chance of a far more experienced manager who wasn't 100 per cent a prospect..May come good one day manager. The last manager with no achievements we tried was Weir, AI is cracking at playing with photos, not sure it's ready to pick our team
Didn't data led technology say we'd beat Sunderland....its not infallible
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Maybe stop making statistics up first?

It’s actually 5 out of the last 10 seasons that 90 points would have been enough to go up automatically.

In the last 5 seasons, it’s been an even lower rate at 1 out of 5.
 
S64 Blade said:
Maybe stop making statistics up first?

It’s actually 5 out of the last 10 seasons that 90 points would have been enough to go up automatically.

In the last 5 seasons, it’s been an even lower rate at 1 out of 5.
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We actually won 92 points ..fact which would be 8 out of 10
As you well know but blame Wilder for the 2 point deduction just to make him look worse

For some reason you loathe Wilder with a passion.I think he's as good a championship manager you can get....I too think his methods in the prem are suspect ...but we could have sorted that out when it happens
 
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blade too long said:
Stop making out Wilder was some loser in 8 out of 10 seasons 90 points would have taken us up
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It doesn't matter where our points tally would put us in other seasons, it matters where it put us this season. And all it left us with is failure.
blade too long said:
AI is cracking at playing with photos, not sure it's ready to pick our team
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I'm tired of people either trying to meme on AI, or being dreadfully ignorant of how we are applying it. Whichever this is, it's just sad.
blade too long said:
Didn't data led technology say we'd beat Sunderland....its not infallible
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Pretty much every pundit I listened to thought we'd win too. Should we dismiss every bit of human input as a result of them all being wrong as well?
 
blade too long said:
We actually won 92 points ..fact which would be 8 out of 10
As you well know but blame Wilder for the 2 point deduction just to make him look worse
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You said “in 8 out of 10 seasons 90 points would have taken us up”…It doesn’t really matter how many we won, we didn’t finish on 92 points. If Burnley or Leeds would have finished on 91 points, we wouldn’t have gone up.

I don’t blame Wilder for the points deduction whatsoever, but nice try on again making things up.

Here’s another statistic for you. In the last ten seasons, only 3 clubs have failed to be automatically promoted when in the top 2 with ten games to go. Ironically, one of the those other than us last season, was Leeds in 2018/19, when, under Wilder we pipped them to automatic promotion.
 
Not everyone supporting Selles is anti-wilder.
As with much online discussion, many posts on here seem to be arguing as though there are two entrenched positions: people who hated Wilder and his football and thought he did a poor job last season; and people who love Wilder and thought he was amazing and should continue as manager forever. The reality is there is nobody (or virtually nobody) in EITHER of those groups. Virtually all of us think Wilder did an incredible job in his first four seasons; there is a split amongst fans about whether he did really well last season when things looked decidedly dodgy in August, or did OK as he had a very well paid squad, or messed up because key matches in the second half of the season were thrown away.
Most fans think he should have had another chance next season based on his record and the points total he’d just achieved.
Some fans think the time was right for a change, even though it might look odd from the outside, because of Wilder’s perceived limitations, OR because strategically a longer term new direction should start now with the parachute money still available.
Some fans think a replacement with a strong proven track record should have been brought in (like Cooper or similar); others are hopeful that Selles has the talent and potential to do a good job with a decent budget and time to work.

There aren’t two homogenous groups of PRO and ANTI Wilder fans, and whether individuals agree or disagree with the the board’s decision doesn’t point to being an idiot or being blind or being in a cult. They’re both pretty reasonable different opinions.
 
Tony_Kaufman said:
Ruben Selles.

Okay, first things first, it's not pronounced Cellars or Sell less. Imagine it's your birthday or Valentine's day and you ask your missus that brave question in the hope that she might "say yes!"

Got it?
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So it’s pronounced “blowjob”?…
 
Is anyone else worried that the board have just:
- Seen Selles' Hull give us a bit of a spanking (mainly on the counter though)
- Seen that he has a background in football data
- ... and that's it. They've then made him our gaffer?

I loved Wilder, but we all saw how shite the football was last year and there's no doubt we'd have gotten our heads bummed-off in the prem again next season if we had gotten promoted playing like that.
So I was open to change, however I struggle to see what they've seen in Selles beyond the fairly shallow reasons I've listed above, that suggest he's THE BEST man for the job.

(Final disclaimer, all the usual bollocks about hoping he does well despite my scepticism, have been wrong before - thought Lys Mousset would have a Balon D'or by now etc.)
 
Ted Striker said:
Glad you think it is time to move on. Thank God for superior beings like you being here to make decisions for us. Look forward to you to give the green light for when we can start moaning again if we have a slow start to the season.
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Clown.
 

Tongeincheek said:
Is anyone else worried that the board have just:
- Seen Selles' Hull give us a bit of a spanking (mainly on the counter though)
- Seen that he has a background in football data
- ... and that's it. They've then made him our gaffer?

I loved Wilder, but we all saw how shite the football was last year and there's no doubt we'd have gotten our heads bummed-off in the prem again next season if we had gotten promoted playing like that.
So I was open to change, however I struggle to see what they've seen in Selles beyond the fairly shallow reasons I've listed above, that suggest he's THE BEST man for the job.

(Final disclaimer, all the usual bollocks about hoping he does well despite my scepticism, have been wrong before - thought Lys Mousset would have a Balon D'or by now etc.)
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I wonder how much Imput Des



Taylor has had in all this?
They will have advisers who will have had a big say.
Chansiri at pigs took no advice from anyone! He now is paying the price.
The Americans will be more savvy in my opinion.
 
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