CONFIRMED Rubén Sellés - Three year deal

All advertisments are hidden for logged in members, why not log in/register?


SwissBlade said:
My first thoughts are that this is a risk the owners didn’t need to take, not now anyway, not after the season we’ve had and could build on.

It’s a very strange move on the face of it and reading the intro post about Selles, I can only feel underwhelmed. The CV reads like we’re in for Championship relegation fight, a manager suited to Wednesday when Rohl goes. I admittedly don’t know anything more than has been discussed here the last few days but all the positive things I’ve heard about him appear to be Wilder-light.

When we appointed Slav, he came with credentials of having gained promotions. Selles has a record with Reading under “difficult circumstances” and relegation fight with Hull to his name. A sign of things to come? I hope not.

I’m sure that my feelings will change as we get some signings in and the sales which have already been signed off.

Good luck to him, I think he’ll need it and possibly, so will we.
Click to expand...

They are taking the risk because like some of us saw Wilder was still making similar mistakes that he had done previously and more.
  • Going after the same old faces in the transfer market and clearly not looking at other alternatives.
  • Talking the same old bollocks in interviews about different ways to win a football match but rarely applying those ideas in crucial games against the likes of Leeds and Burnley.
  • Banging on about things like fitness yet despite a pre-season with his coaching methods a lot of the squad were still blowing out of their arse at 60 minutes especially the likes of Hamer. That's despite him adding to the squad in January and getting more depth to keep players fresh.
  • Playing players out of position which Wilder MK1 was always stickler about but yet Wilder MK2 wanted to play central midfielders on the wing. Right wingers on left wings. Strikers as CAM's etc.
  • Then back to his signings where he got most of the players he wanted over the course of the season but rarely played some of them. His biggest mistake not utilising Holding in the final run in.
  • Keeping the pairing of Anel and Robbo in defence when everyone knows it will at least leak one goal a game despite having the safe hands of Cooper in net.
  • Making Robbo captain when he has never ever been captain material.
  • Pissing 10 mil on Cannon when a smart manager would have been investing in a defender who we would own to replace to Souttar rather than a loan.
  • 500k worth of fines (which I have said some incidents were not all instigated by ourselves) but he then added to it himself with his antics at Plymouth.
A lot of the answers were staring him in his face as the season went on but he chose the different option because everyone else is wrong but him.
 
robbiez666 said:
It's worth remembering that Wilder hadn't managed above League 2 when we signed him.

Adkins had a really good track record. So did Slav.

The past doesn't necessarily dictate the future.
Click to expand...

Excellent point.

In fact it quite bizarre that whenever we show ambitious intent regards big name managers and even when buying expensive highly rated players our record has been really really poor.

The high profile expensive manager like the Robson/ Brian Kidd dream team, Nigel Adkin’s and Slav Jukanovic were all poor.

Where as under whelming appointments like Bassett, Warnock, Wilson, Wilder were all excellent appointment.

I’m also under whelmed by Selles track record but like Danny Wilson he”s rated within the game and has been involved in coaching from a young age. Whether he has the personality to lead a team of players is another issue but suspect he’s technically very competent.

Think he has similarities to Rohl at SWFC regards that hes predicted to have a good coaching career, whether his future will be as number 2 or number 1, who knows.

Think we will have a better playing style but be inconsistent. Then we’ll have the split fanbase asking whether you prefer the more entertaining Selles style or the more effective go 1-0 up, then park the bus in the last 20 minutes Wilder style.
 
I'm not getting all the negativity and the keep wilder mantra, let's look at it from the owners perspective they bought the club and from day 1 will have more than likely wanted their own man, let's not forget the takeover took months and by that time wilder had us in a very good place, top 2, so the owners thought OK this guy must know his stuff, let's give him some support in the transfer window so he can get us promoted, they backed him, he didn't deliver, still he had the fallback of the playoffs, which we were leading with 15 minutes to play and lost, so I think the owners are well within their rights to evaluate things and they have decided that they have given wilder the chance to get promoted and he blew it, so they have now chosen their own guy, bottom line is the owners gave wilder his chance he blew £10m of their cash and cost another few hundred grand in fines so they got rid, now as a fan base we need to give Selles the same backing they gave wilder - I don't mean a whip round for £10m,to waste I mean support him
 
it seems also ruben selles couldnt be more polar opposite to chris 🤣

CW - You can stick your data where you want to stick your data.

Selles - We need to embrace data & new technologies,
 
Sheffsteel said:
Excellent point.

In fact it quite bizarre that whenever we show ambitious intent regards big name managers and even when buying expensive highly rated players our record has been really really poor.

The high profile expensive manager like the Robson/ Brian Kidd dream team, Nigel Adkin’s and Slav Jukanovic were all poor.

Where as under whelming appointments like Bassett, Warnock, Wilson, Wilder were all excellent appointment.

I’m also under whelmed by Selles track record but like Danny Wilson he”s rated within the game and has been involved in coaching from a young age. Whether he has the personality to lead a team of players is another issue but suspect he’s technically very competent.

Think he has similarities to Rohl at SWFC regards that hes predicted to have a good coaching career, whether his future will be as number 2 or number 1, who knows.

Think we will have a better playing style but be inconsistent. Then we’ll have the split fanbase asking whether you prefer the more entertaining Selles style or the more effective go 1-0 up, then park the bus in the last 20 minutes Wilder style.
Click to expand...
I think his experiences are a big plus.

He's had a short term contract at Southampton who were essentially down. Got a few decent performances/results out of them.

Reading were a basket case. Transfer embargo. Had to throw kids in. I think they had 3 separate points deductions in his time. Got them into the play-off places. Crackpot owner.

Hull were bottom of the league and their owner is mental. Came in, took them up the league. It was a bit stuttering in the end but did the job.

It's worth noting that at Southampton he got results against Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal. His team also scored 8 goals in those games.

For Hull he got results against us, Sunderland and Leeds. Scoring I think 8 again in those 3 games.

He knows how to play against better teams. Which will be obviously needed if we go up.
 
This is not a dig and like any manager he gets my full support...

What are the main positives in appointing Selles? I don't know much apart from his Hull side doing us over last season 3-0.
 
wak1889 said:
I'm not getting all the negativity and the keep wilder mantra, let's look at it from the owners perspective they bought the club and from day 1 will have more than likely wanted their own man, let's not forget the takeover took months and by that time wilder had us in a very good place, top 2, so the owners thought OK this guy must know his stuff, let's give him some support in the transfer window so he can get us promoted, they backed him, he didn't deliver, still he had the fallback of the playoffs, which we were leading with 15 minutes to play and lost, so I think the owners are well within their rights to evaluate things and they have decided that they have given wilder the chance to get promoted and he blew it, so they have now chosen their own guy, bottom line is the owners gave wilder his chance he blew £10m of their cash and cost another few hundred grand in fines so they got rid, now as a fan base we need to give Selles the same backing they gave wilder - I don't mean a whip round for £10m,to waste I mean support him
Click to expand...
You don’t have many likes
 
Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou said:
This is not a dig and like any manager he gets my full support...

What are the main positives in appointing Selles? I don't know much apart from his Hull side doing us over last season 3-0.
Click to expand...
Data driven, Fitness minded coach, did well at Southampton (getting impressive draws against teams in the top six which they had no right to do).

Good pedigree having been in and around the Valencia set up (coached the U21s’ and the B team). Did really well at Reading, got them to the play offs with three points deductions having had to play a lot of academy players. Did decent at Hull City who were equally a basket case.
 

sheff_blade90 said:
it seems also ruben selles couldnt be more polar opposite to chris 🤣

CW - You can stick your data where you want to stick your data.

Selles - We need to embrace data & new technologies,
Click to expand...
Anyone who disagrees with Selles on that is a fool
 
Pollingtonblade said:
Not really sure I want to listen to some cunt who's up Trumps arse and who is irrelevant to the clubs opinion. For that I'll read Biggsy
Click to expand...
I couldn't care less about the former but he had a job here and was a disaster. He was a nice enough bloke but completely useless at the job he had. So him sneering, like the accountant and others, is just hilarious really.
 
Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou said:
This is not a dig and like any manager he gets my full support...

What are the main positives in appointing Selles? I don't know much apart from his Hull side doing us over last season 3-0.
Click to expand...

Very good with youngsters and development players, solid defensively and organised, will play direct and likes to grind it out to get results.
 
NOBODY on here would have picked him, yet we have plenty putting the maximum possible positive spin on it while acting like any criticism of the appointment is simply mad. Would have been the same if we appointed a literal dog turd as well

Time will tell but my feeling is that we'll regret it. But so much depends on the budget, not quite sure what to expect and it's a massive variable. As is their approach to recruitment

I hope he can at least get us playing a better style but even that doesn't seem particularly promising
 
Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou said:
This is not a dig and like any manager he gets my full support...

What are the main positives in appointing Selles? I don't know much apart from his Hull side doing us over last season 3-0.
Click to expand...

Read my post on the previous page.

I’ve given 6 reasons where Selles betters Wilder, they are

1: Suspect SUFC have changed from the old fashioned UK style manager system, where the manager controls almost everything at a club and has a big input and final decision in buying players. Everywhere else in the world, the owners/ advisors/ director of football run the club and choose the players. They consult with the 1st team coach but the 1st team coach is basically given players and told to prepare them and divide tactics. This is the system used around the world and in the top flight.

2: Maybe the club want to buy more foreign players. Wilders CV is pretty poor regards foreign players. Selles is multi lingual, worked as a coach in several countries and has vast experience working with numerous nationalities.

3: Wilder is passionate and fans love it. It was more in fashion in previous decades but these days almost all managers are computerised robots. Maybe the owners want to drag the club into the current day. Wilder was sometimes a liability regards his emotions where as Selles is a much safer pair of hands regards emotional stability and behaviour.

4: Reputational image of the club. Wilder was generally disliked by fans of other clubs and didn’t have a good reputation in the media. Selles is a young, good looking guy, more appealing to the media. The off field discipline of the players was terrible, often fighting during and after matches and surely a manager is partially to blame for £500K of fines.

5: Selles was known for a high pressing style and let’s be honest Hull looked good at the Lane, think Wilder was tactically out smarted that day, think that will have played a part in their decision.

6: This hasn’t been mentioned anywhere but was or is Wilders daughter in a relationship with a player? This is really risky as it can create favouritism and/ or internal politics totally disrupting a harmonious squad. Wouldn’t be surprised if this was seen as a massive negative and potential future disaster.
 
3Cheers4Ramirez said:
NOBODY on here would have picked him, yet we have plenty putting the maximum possible positive spin on it while acting like any criticism of the appointment is simply mad. Would have been the same if we appointed a literal dog turd as well

Time will tell but my feeling is that we'll regret it. But so much depends on the budget, not quite sure what to expect and it's a massive variable. As is their approach to recruitment
Click to expand...
I would have
 
It’s evident that we have a sizeable contingent in our midst that don’t want the club to modernise. They are perfectly happy with Sheffield United FC being a glorified working men’s club with a dog-shit covered pitch out back by the bins. They’re equally happy seeing a mirror image of themselves running the entire club, supping pints, sneering at anything in the game introduced after 1989, and scrapping. It maintains their fantasy that, even though they sport a cultivated 10 pint tyre, somehow they are living vicariously as the Blades manager too. If Selles turns out to be teetotal, we’re going to need industrial scale suicide watch.

Well, as romantic as all that seems, in 2025 that doesn’t cut it. Make no mistake, the elite clubs above us are Ivan fucking Drago, except in our reality, plucky little Rocky gets his head clubbed in. Hard to eulogise about old school methods when the 8th goal goes in without lube. The Wilder 1.0 years were magical, but 👏 they 👏 are 👏 over. So, for the first time in my 35 years, let’s see if this data-driven modern lark works…
 
Blade56 said:
Another hoping we fail as a club
Click to expand...
From a man who was/ is a supporter and connected to the board that gave us that car crash Hecky announcement presser, 'we're not football people' (Giansiracusa) well no sh*t Sherlock.

He has the audacity to talk about disrespecting the club when Wilder tunnelled his way back in, under Hecky's feet, with help from PA. Not having it.

Cheers Jim, but you had your time. We're moving on, like it or not and you're not involved.
 
3Cheers4Ramirez said:
NOBODY on here would have picked him, yet we have plenty putting the maximum possible positive spin on it while acting like any criticism of the appointment is simply mad. Would have been the same if we appointed a literal dog turd as well

Time will tell but my feeling is that we'll regret it. But so much depends on the budget, not quite sure what to expect and it's a massive variable. As is their approach to recruitment

I hope he can at least get us playing a better style but even that doesn't seem particularly promising
Click to expand...
Lots on here (myself included) wanted Adkins and Slav. So I wouldn’t focus too much on who people would pick.

The truth is, none of us are in football and for those who are, there’s no real certainties. So, all we can do is focus on the positives and actually give the guy the time to make his changes and prove himself.
 
Foxy said:
Click to expand...

He's managed clubs in three different divisions in the English leagues.
Southampton and Hull were minnows in their relative ponds and Reading were a complete disaster club.
The Blades are one of the largest fish in a relatively small pond.
Hopefully this will allow him to capitalise on the situation with his approach and style of football.
 
S64 Blade said:
Lots on here (myself included) wanted Adkins and Slav. So I wouldn’t focus too much on who people would pick.

The truth is, none of us are in football and for those who are, there’s no real certainties. So, all we can do is focus on the positives and actually give the guy the time to make his changes and prove himself.
Click to expand...

The only time most United fans knew instantly that a manager was going to be a disaster was when we brought in Bryan Robson. Regardless of Robson's contacts in the game the only person who didn't see a problem with his appointment was Kevin McCabe.
 

You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Balham
Where are they now? United 2-1 Man City, 2008 FA Cup 4th round
Replies
16
Views
2K
sufc323
sufc323
mattbianco1
Ex Players - Where are they now?
4 5 6
Replies
166
Views
23K
Foody
F
grafikhaus
Memries of Reading Pt. 3
Replies
23
Views
3K
Bannerman
Bannerman
grafikhaus
Blades v Brum
2
Replies
37
Views
6K
BigBed
BigBed
grafikhaus
Memries of Stoke
2 3
Replies
61
Views
9K
Silent Blade
Silent Blade

All advertisments are hidden for logged in members, why not log in/register?

All advertisments are hidden for logged in members, why not log in/register?

Back
Top Bottom