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City fan in peace, as they say.

Just a small observation, from a ‘lurker’. In City’s last season in League 1 (2004/05) the average home attendance was 18027. I note that this year Sheffield United average home attendance is 17071 (so far).

City has around 19000 season pass holders. It’s probably not fair to describe the fans per se as ‘plastics’ who have only appeared because the club is in the premier league.

The comments on the not606 thread about rivalry between the two clubs makes sense to people of a certain age. If you followed either club in the years up to and including 1983/84 season you might appreciate this.

Good luck for the rest of the season, obviously excluding 13 April.
 

Wow. When we got Hull i thought ahh that's nice. Even if we lose, a nice little wee diddy club gets to the final. Good on em. Would rather lose to them than an arrogant bunch like Sunderland. How wrong i was. I hope our players are reading these comments and get angry. Trust me, you wouldn't like Brayford, Flynn, Murphy, Maguire and (eek, dare i even say it after the shit i've given him) Doyle when they're angry! The only reason i think we'll probably get beat is the pitch has to suit a premier team more due to their probable higher fitness levels. If this was at the lane, we'd stuff em. At Wembley, we have a chance but will have to play defensive and just hope to keep it at 0-0 then nick it from a set peice.

As for Hull being a rival, umm... :tumbleweed:
 
City fan in peace, as they say.

Just a small observation, from a ‘lurker’. In City’s last season in League 1 (2004/05) the average home attendance was 18027. I note that this year Sheffield United average home attendance is 17071 (so far).

City has around 19000 season pass holders. It’s probably not fair to describe the fans per se as ‘plastics’ who have only appeared because the club is in the premier league.

The comments on the not606 thread about rivalry between the two clubs makes sense to people of a certain age. If you followed either club in the years up to and including 1983/84 season you might appreciate this.

Good luck for the rest of the season, obviously excluding 13 April.

Whoop de doo.

In 2004-05 you finished 2nd. This season we had our worst ever start to a season in the history of the club.
 
City fan in peace, as they say.

Just a small observation, from a ‘lurker’. In City’s last season in League 1 (2004/05) the average home attendance was 18027. I note that this year Sheffield United average home attendance is 17071 (so far).

City has around 19000 season pass holders. It’s probably not fair to describe the fans per se as ‘plastics’ who have only appeared because the club is in the premier league.

The comments on the not606 thread about rivalry between the two clubs makes sense to people of a certain age. If you followed either club in the years up to and including 1983/84 season you might appreciate this.

Good luck for the rest of the season, obviously excluding 13 April.

That's better, good post mate, and although banter is expected, it sometimes degenerates and before you have a chance to take a deep breath it's verbal attrition. Truth is, clubs are where they are for a reason. We've mostly been mismanaged and had poor chairmanship. We've also bought badly. That's changed since Nigel Clough was appointed as manager. From relegation candidates to moving up the division, plus being in a FA Cup semi, shows the turn around we've experienced. So naturally we're bouyant and optimistic. We don't underestimate anyone, so neither should any team underestimate Sheffield United.

Oh, by the way, you're located on the losing side at Wembley.....good luck, you'll need it.
 
Wow. When we got Hull i thought ahh that's nice. Even if we lose, a nice little wee diddy club gets to the final. Good on em. Would rather lose to them than an arrogant bunch like Sunderland. How wrong i was. I hope our players are reading these comments and get angry. Trust me, you wouldn't like Brayford, Flynn, Murphy, Maguire and (eek, dare i even say it after the shit i've given him) Doyle when they're angry! The only reason i think we'll probably get beat is the pitch has to suit a premier team more due to their probable higher fitness levels. If this was at the lane, we'd stuff em. At Wembley, we have a chance but will have to play defensive and just hope to keep it at 0-0 then nick it from a set peice.

As for Hull being a rival, umm... :tumbleweed:
Someone needs to tweet this thread to the players.
 
KenMcnaughtsNuts out of interest why do you assume they'll be fitter?

We've looked fitter than all 4 sides from divs above us, play more games in lg 1 than premiership, play on heavier pitches and whilst premiership is probably more skill based training ours (I assume) is more fitness based to counter the skills of teams in higher divs.
 
City fan in peace, as they say.

Just a small observation, from a ‘lurker’. In City’s last season in League 1 (2004/05) the average home attendance was 18027. I note that this year Sheffield United average home attendance is 17071 (so far).

City has around 19000 season pass holders. It’s probably not fair to describe the fans per se as ‘plastics’ who have only appeared because the club is in the premier league.

The comments on the not606 thread about rivalry between the two clubs makes sense to people of a certain age. If you followed either club in the years up to and including 1983/84 season you might appreciate this.

Good luck for the rest of the season, obviously excluding 13 April.
KenMcnaughtsNuts out of interest why do you assume they'll be fitter?

We've looked fitter than all 4 sides from divs above us, play more games in lg 1 than premiership, play on heavier pitches and whilst premiership is probably more skill based training ours (I assume) is more fitness based to counter the skills of teams in higher divs.

Well for a start we have to play stupid amounts of matches. We have 8 games between now and the semi-final whereas Hull have just 5.
 
Gentlemen

Could I ask that you don't take the sins of the many out on the few... the few being those chaps who've put their heads above the parapet and been incredibly gracious in their postings over here.
 
City fan in peace, as they say.

Just a small observation, from a ‘lurker’. In City’s last season in League 1 (2004/05) the average home attendance was 18027. I note that this year Sheffield United average home attendance is 17071 (so far).

City has around 19000 season pass holders. It’s probably not fair to describe the fans per se as ‘plastics’ who have only appeared because the club is in the premier league.

The comments on the not606 thread about rivalry between the two clubs makes sense to people of a certain age. If you followed either club in the years up to and including 1983/84 season you might appreciate this.

Good luck for the rest of the season, obviously excluding 13 April.

Don't like to compare attendances, but last season we averaged 18,611 with Hull averaging 17,368. With Hull being 2nd in the championship and us 5th in League One. :tumbleweed:
 
Ah bless 'em, a fair old chip they have on their shoulders. How dare they, Premier League Hull Tigers, have to bother with a game with Sheffield United from Division 3. Perhaps we should do the decent thing and lay down and die... bit like they did recently against Newcastle perhaps?

Let's be right, they aren't a bad side, but hardly a surprise with the money the owner has chucked in. And by rights they should beat us. But if they think it will be a stroll then they're as fucking stupid as they sound.

As for the Hull fan coming on here with the 'small observation' about their attendances against ours, any reason you didn't choose a more recent season, like last for instance? No need to answer, I already know... promoted to the Prem and averaging what we are now in what until recently has been a cuntsoup of a season, outstanding effort.
 
Don't get any of this.

If they want to spout bollocks on their forum (and even align themselves with the pork) then so what? I can't/won't be bothering looking at that shite anyway.

If some want to come and debate the upcoming game (as several Charlton fans did with some eloquence) then all the better.

I well remember a certain rivalry going on in the "dark ages" and a trip to Boothferry Park was always seething with potential nastiness. Thought that had long passed on, maybe not.
 
Hull is quite a good example of a relatively new trend in football; the club whose stadium is temporarily filled by the Premier League Football fan, not the supporter of the club. In fact, the club is more or less irrelevant, these people may previously be 'TV supporting' Man Utd, Liverpool or Chelsea fans, or dare I say it in Hull's case possibly even old-time Leeds fans, (gosh, that is a sad thought) who latch on to the club as a way of seeing the established teams. Whatever the truth, they enjoy gaining gratification for their empty lives by their tenuous association with something as famous as the Premier League. Rather unfairly this genre of fan is often associated with the likes of Reading but I remember watching the biscuitmen playing at Elm park in front of a crowd of about 5,500 which was about twice the average gate of the desolate Boothferry Park at the time. It is also the case that the ersatz fan cannot resist talking utter bollocks with the zeal of newly converted when they know shit all about the history, traditions or indeed rivalries of the club they are parasitically attached to. Of course they would like to see us as rivals because it really doesn't fit with their new found vision of themselves to consider rivalries with Grimsby, Scunthorpe or even Lincoln City befitting to their current status. In fact, as we can see, we are only grudgingly seen as rivals because of course the Sky generation is only dimly aware that football exists outside of the plastic pastures of the Murdock empire. We must forgive them their excesses, for they know not what they say.

You have to remember also that other subsections of their crowd have only previously associated Wembley with grainy black and white images of Rugby League and turn misty eyed when the ball is hoofed up in the air as it brings back the dulcet tones of Eddie Waring and memories of simpler days. So Blades fans we must not respond to the guttural gruntings of these denizens of the east coast riviera, we should allow them their eccentricities, if they enjoy living in tower blocks and paving their streets with fish, who are we to object? We should not forget that the Spiders were from Mars and that the planet is a more hospitable environment than Hull. We should remember that greatness has come from Hull in the past, that Wilberforce gained his inspiration to free slaves from wandering around Hull and observing the locals, that the best thing about Hull is the bridge out of it and that it takes a lot of effort and a long time to polish the three Division Three championship trophies that sit proudly in the dusty trophy cabinet.

It may well be that it will be their day at Wembley and maybe they can go on to the lift the FA Cup; perhaps Phil Brown will emerge from the crowd and sing us a song to celebrate and perhaps Steve Bruce will retire, realising that his ambitions have at last been realised and perhaps the fans will return to the fishing village at the end of the railway siding and and celebrate with repeated homage to J Arthur. After all there is fuck all else to do in Hull.
 

[quote="As for the Hull fan coming on here with the 'small observation' about their attendances against ours, any reason you didn't choose a more recent season, like last for instance? No need to answer, I already know... promoted to the Prem and averaging what we are now in what until recently has been a cuntsoup of a season, outstanding effort.[/quote]

The point I was trying to make, obviously not very well, was that City's crowds have not increased significantly due to being in the premier league.
 
I don't think anyone on this Forum has been overconfident since the draw was made, most stated the obvious we have more of a chance against Hull than we would of against Arsenal.

They have a thread saying they have a Bye to the Final! Deluded

Funny that the Forest, Charlton and even Wednesday fans all thought that.
 
http://www.not606.com/showthread.php/253488-Thoughts-from-Sheffield

Apparently we're feeling overconfident, the "dregs of Yorkshire" and "retarded minnows".

Nice.

There's a fair bit of mud-slinging towards us on that thread, but really, does anyone on here see them as "local rivals" as they seem to want to make out?

Wednesday, Rotherham, Barnsley, Chesterfield... yeah. But Hull?

It remains the only place I've ever been to where the lass in the chippy we went in had to conclude her drug deal before serving us. City of Culture indeed.

Having lived in Brid for 35 years I've a few acquaintances who are City fans and for some reason they really don't like us. Maybe we've pissed on their bonfire or something in the past.
 
City fan in peace, as they say.

Just a small observation, from a ‘lurker’. In City’s last season in League 1 (2004/05) the average home attendance was 18027. I note that this year Sheffield United average home attendance is 17071 (so far).

City has around 19000 season pass holders. It’s probably not fair to describe the fans per se as ‘plastics’ who have only appeared because the club is in the premier league.

The comments on the not606 thread about rivalry between the two clubs makes sense to people of a certain age. If you followed either club in the years up to and including 1983/84 season you might appreciate this.

Good luck for the rest of the season, obviously excluding 13 April.

To start with, good luck to Hull City also for the same time period.

Just a small comment on the average attendances above, which you state "in City's last season in League 1", which I assume means that it was a PROMOTION season, which is somewhat unfair to compare against our current season, where we have spent the vast majority in the bottom half, if not the bottom four. It would be fairer to compare the average of how many seasons you spent in League 1, compared to ourselves. I've not done the maths, because whatever is the outcome it is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is our relative positions today, and what happens at Wembley.

To my fellow Blades, I suggest that you review this thread, as though you were a Hull City supporter, and in those circumstances, maybe the original statements and sentiments of this thread could find a degree of acceptance.

Hull City is a smaller non-fashionable club like ourselves. They are "punching above their weight", and giving some of the "BIG" boys a good hiding - good luck to them. They've got a chairman, who is "ripping the heart" out of their club.

How do we fancy being renamed? Sheffield Blades, or worse, anybody?

Like it or like it not, they are from YORKSHIRE! Not Lancashire, or some southern place.

Come on, we're enjoying our football again, but let's not descend into the gutter.

Up the Blades
 
http://www.not606.com/showthread.php/253488-Thoughts-from-Sheffield

Apparently we're feeling overconfident, the "dregs of Yorkshire" and "retarded minnows".

Nice.

There's a fair bit of mud-slinging towards us on that thread, but really, does anyone on here see them as "local rivals" as they seem to want to make out?

Wednesday, Rotherham, Barnsley, Chesterfield... yeah. But Hull?

It remains the only place I've ever been to where the lass in the chippy we went in had to conclude her drug deal before serving us. City of Culture indeed.
If they are being rude to us I won't sink to their level. I buy my dope and ladies from reputable sources. Bless 'em though a giant aquarium and a half decent footy team and they get delusions of mediocrity
 
FOR THE ATTENTION OF SPYING HULL TIGERS erm.... CITY FANS...

We aren't disrespecting you when cheering following the drawetc.. At the point the draw was made we had the potential of a game against ARSENAL, HULL CITY or MAN C/WIGAN.

Nobody expected Wigan to beat Man City and therefore, the people in that bar celebrated like mad as this was the best possible draw that Sheffield United could have hoped for. Same goes for these HULL fans - http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/s...ainst-sheffield-united-in-fa-cup-semi-final/?

Now on paper Wigan would be easier to progress against than Hull City jusging by league standings, however Wigan have lost only 3 games since Uwe Rosler has taken charge (20 games). The mighty Hull City have lost 8 of their last 20 winning 6 of them (3 in the cup and 2 against Sunderland). Therefore form wise, i still think Sheffield United have the best chance of progressing by drawing Hull rather than Arsenal or Wigan.

Hull is yorkshire. I would like to take this opportunity to apologise on behalf of the Sheffield United fans who said it wasn't. Hull is in the "East Riding of Yorkshire" that is factual.

Hull City's nearest rivals are Scunthorpe (~25mi),Grimsby (~30mi) Hull consider Leeds & Sheffield to be derbies (~60mi).

However, Hull City is not a derby for Sheffield United and never was.

If Sheffield United work on the proviso that 60miles is considered a derby, we would have derbies with:

Manchester U & C
Liverpool
Everton
Leicester
Forest
Derby
Preston
Bolton
Wigan
York
Oldham
Stoke
Port Vale
Wolves
Crewe
etc.
etc.
etc.

Do i need to go on?

To summarise.......

Hull is in Yorkshire
Hull vs Sheffield United ISN'T a derby.
Sheffield United aren't already planning for a Europa League assault next year. People saying that are talking in jest.
Sheffield United are still happy that we appear to be safe from relegation.
The sea in Hull is brown not blue

EDIT... oh yeah. And City of Culture is just a way of giving a shitty city a makeover a la Liverpool. It's easier to do than cut it off the edge of Britain altogether. If we did that the Belgians would send you back as would the Irish with Liverpool
 
Maybe we've pissed on their bonfire or something in the past.

We have. There has been great animosity ever since 70/71 in my view.

In that season we fought (literally) a battle against them toward the end of the season. They won the battle, we won the war (if Silent joins this thread late I'm sure he'll stick up a full report of a very tempestuous night, oranges and all).

There was then the "sharing" of Keith Edwards. We sold him to them (stupidly) and then bought him back (brilliantly) just after he'd caused a near riot by scoring against us at their place.

Then there was 83/84 which has been done to death a hundred times.

Even in the last few seasons, we had the Unsworth winner and beating them at the Lane when Phil Brown was getting them promoted, and a controversial cup exit for us (Walkers debut).

I believe there is a genuine hatred from their side and I can see why. I just don't hate them back when there's Leeds and the Pigs in the vacinity.
 
We have. There has been great animosity ever since 70/71 in my view.

In that season we fought (literally) a battle against them toward the end of the season. They won the battle, we won the war (if Silent joins this thread late I'm sure he'll stick up a full report of a very tempestuous night, oranges and all).

My dad mentions that game sometimes. Says the team they brought that night was one of the biggest bunch of thugs he's ever seen at the Lane (on the pitch at least). An ex-Pig called Ken Knighton was the worst.
 
We are all talking about a game of Football aren't we not One of our boys getting blown up in Afghanistan!
 
I don't think anyone is being over-confident at all. We have a chance, simple as that.

Hull are the best side we've come up against so far but at the time of the draw we couldn't have asked for a better chance of reaching the final. There's absolutely no pressure on us and I sincerely hope Hull buckle under the pressure they're under to win!
On paper Wigan are easier than Hull, as Hull inhabit the premier league.
 
You're dad is spot on in his assesment. In real terms Ken Knighton was a "future" Pig at that point but he was a right twat (although us having a certain Trevor Hockey in the team kind of balanced it out a bit!).

That's Walthy's Dad, not Darrens (although they could easily be the same bloke thinking on . . . . ).
 

Hull is quite a good example of a relatively new trend in football; the club whose stadium is temporarily filled by the Premier League Football fan, not the supporter of the club. In fact, the club is more or less irrelevant, these people may previously be 'TV supporting' Man Utd, Liverpool or Chelsea fans, or dare I say it in Hull's case possibly even old-time Leeds fans, (gosh, that is a sad thought) who latch on to the club as a way of seeing the established teams. Whatever the truth, they enjoy gaining gratification for their empty lives by their tenuous association with something as famous as the Premier League. Rather unfairly this genre of fan is often associated with the likes of Reading but I remember watching the biscuitmen playing at Elm park in front of a crowd of about 5,500 which was about twice the average gate of the desolate Boothferry Park at the time. It is also the case that the ersatz fan cannot resist talking utter bollocks with the zeal of newly converted when they know shit all about the history, traditions or indeed rivalries of the club they are parasitically attached to. Of course they would like to see us as rivals because it really doesn't fit with their new found vision of themselves to consider rivalries with Grimsby, Scunthorpe or even Lincoln City befitting to their current status. In fact, as we can see, we are only grudgingly seen as rivals because of course the Sky generation is only dimly aware that football exists outside of the plastic pastures of the Murdock empire. We must forgive them their excesses, for they know not what they say.

You have to remember also that other subsections of their crowd have only previously associated Wembley with grainy black and white images of Rugby League and turn misty eyed when the ball is hoofed up in the air as it brings back the dulcet tones of Eddie Waring and memories of simpler days. So Blades fans we must not respond to the guttural gruntings of these denizens of the east coast riviera, we should allow them their eccentricities, if they enjoy living in tower blocks and paving their streets with fish, who are we to object? We should not forget that the Spiders were from Mars and that the planet is a more hospitable environment than Hull. We should remember that greatness has come from Hull in the past, that Wilberforce gained his inspiration to free slaves from wandering around Hull and observing the locals, that the best thing about Hull is the bridge out of it and that it takes a lot of effort and a long time to polish the three Division Three championship trophies that sit proudly in the dusty trophy cabinet.

It may well be that it will be their day at Wembley and maybe they can go on to the lift the FA Cup; perhaps Phil Brown will emerge from the crowd and sing us a song to celebrate and perhaps Steve Bruce will retire, realising that his ambitions have at last been realised and perhaps the fans will return to the fishing village at the end of the railway siding and and celebrate with repeated homage to J Arthur. After all there is fuck all else to do in Hull.

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