New Manager ?

[s20Blade]

Got to be some top Bulgarian manager with these AI signings but after Wilder has had one more season. Surely there is a longer term plan to keep finishing in the top 6 without breaking FFP.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Got to be some top Bulgarian manager with these AI signings but after Wilder has had one more season. Surely there is a longer term plan to keep finishing in the top 6 without breaking FFP.

Incurring losses each and every year unless we are selling academy graduates for substantial fees. Promotion has to be the aim every year and then PL survival where possible, with a second season hugely important!

 

[b1ade4life]

Ever, over the weekend? It’s only just Sunday.

No source, no detail, I call BS…..

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Foxy, can I be BS moderator?

Call it what you like, all will be revealed early next week

 

[Wilderat Heart]

In my lifetime Wilder is without any doubt in my mind historically the best manager we have had. I have deliberately used the word historic because times and other elements change. For example, Deano is the best striker for me, but he’d not be up to it now.

And the Steve Bracknell-esque antics don’t help him at all.

What I will say is something needs to be done now one way or another as it’s quite a small window to prepare for next season.

The board need to shit or get off the pot, back him or sack him and move forward.

WTF Deane would be a 100 million pound striker now big strong quick athletic and a great first touch. Put him up front for Arsenal for example and they win the league. Presumably Bassett is a less successful manager despite staying in the top flight longer and having far less money available

 

[Wilderat Heart]

Don't get me wrong Wilder deserves all the plaudits going. I do think however every manager has a shelf life and maybe it's time for a new approach particularly in the structure of the club. If Wilder can't or won't accept that maybe his time should be up.

 

[Bill puntin]

It’s now Sunday, Mystic Meg….

That was posted thursday morning, keep up

 

[georgebernardshaw]

That was posted thursday morning, keep up

I know…that’s why I sent you a reminder today.

 

[Nick Jansky]

WTF Deane would be a 100 million pound striker now big strong quick athletic and a great first touch. Put him up front for Arsenal for example and they win the league. Presumably Bassett is a less successful manager despite staying in the top flight longer and having far less money available

Some Blades tinted glasses there. He’s rightfully a legend to us, but couldn’t establish himself in the England squad because there were far better English strikers around. And there was no noise around anywhere calling for him to be playing for England. Same with David Hirst, both legends in this city and were very good, but neither were elite level players. £40m tops in today’s market.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

He has such a good record does Gary!

Bournemouth:

• 2022/23: Appointed as head coach, guiding the team to Premier League safety, finishing 15th.
• June 2023: Sacked by Bournemouth.

Wolverhampton Wanderers:

• 2023/24: Started the season as manager, leading Wolves to a 14th-place finish.
  
  
• 2024/25: A poor run of form, including 11 losses in 16 matches, resulted in his dismissal on December 15, 2024.
  
  
• Record at Wolves: 20 wins, 11 draws, and 32 losses in all competitions (53 Premier League games with 15 wins, 10 draws, and 27 defeats).
  
  
• Wolves' position at dismissal: Second-from-bottom with nine points.

And fuc.ing abysmal football too.

 

[Wilderat Heart]

I agree Lineker. Shearer, Young Micheal Owen Sheringham even Ian Wright kept him and David Hirst out of the England team. That doesn't make him not a top class striker. The fact that he and Hirst even got any England caps show how good they actually both were. You don't think Man U or Arsenal wouldn't pick Deane over what they have now. Is Solanke a better player at Tottenham. Ivan Toney, Ollie Watkins would they have been picked over the above names? I think Modern football would recognise Deane's all round game, He was never just a target man. 40 milion tops when we bought Mcburnie and Brewster for about that amount. I think Deanes size and power would carry a premium in modern football.

 

[Bell4]

I’d be really underwhelmed if it’s O’Neill. I’m probably just in the Wilder out camp, but I’d sooner we stick with him if O’Neill is the alternative.

His teeth are amazing though

 

[Mouth of the South]

And fuc.ing abysmal football too.

The biggest possible 'no' from me re: O'Neill. He's a total tool and absolutely full of himself.

I hope I'm wrong but I'd predict an early falling out with supporters, shifting blame when things go wrong and an expensive ending within 6 months for the owners with the second parachute payment season wasted.

Selles would be a much better option should CW indeed go.

 

[The Fox]

If there's anything the rumours regarding changes to the football side, both structure and personnel it looks like the head coach would be part of a larger management team with a shared vision which in any business looks like a step forward.
It has its own risks but probably not as much as being dependant on one person and makes way for some continuity as individuals come and go ..something previous changes have often found to be difficult.

Whatever and whoever we should give it a chance to work .

 

[Dkc]

O'Neil could be the new David Weir

 

[The Crab]

WTF Deane would be a 100 million pound striker now big strong quick athletic and a great first touch. Put him up front for Arsenal for example and they win the league. Presumably Bassett is a less successful manager despite staying in the top flight longer and having far less money available

I meant Deane at his age now.

Fair shout on Bassett, but I’d say the gap in quality between the top division and the rest is a lot bigger now

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

O'Neil could be the new David Weir

Why the comparison with Weir?

 

[1066blade]

i would say its pretty close....

Based on what exactly?

 

[1066blade]

That's the modern way though and fans need to get past this "selling is evil" attitude.

Brentford wouldn't be where they are without having sold Watkins and Toney for significantly more than they paid for them. Villa lucked out with the sale of Grealish. Forest may be about to make huge profits on Gibbs-White and Elanga.

So long as you make a decent profit that can bankroll a replacement and strengthen elsewhere then this is a good thing. No club keeps their best players forever. Liverpool just lost Alexander-Arnold to Real Madrid. Sunderland have lost Bellingham and Watson. That's football, but our fans always have an issue with it. I can sort of understand why due to McCabe giving away our best players for peanuts in the past ie. Brown, Beattie, Walker, Quinn, as well as the mishandling of Ndiaye and Berge's contracts (though arguably the embargo in January didn't help that).

If Burrows has an even better season next year and a Premier League come in for him for £20mil, then we'd sell, as we'd have made £17mil on him in just two seasons and he could be replaced at a fraction of the price, unless AI data had already led to a long term replacement whom we had already signed. They might not be ready for a couple of seasons at which point we'd likely sign a short term replacement for the interim or make do with someone already here.

Like it or lump it, that is football these days. All clubs are selling clubs when you have players that others seek.

Know exactly what you mean. We sold Osula and spent the money plus an extra million on Cannon.
. .. Oh, wait...

 

[alcoblade]

You can disagree all you like, it’s all about opinions. But if things go in the direction I think they will I will stand by every part of my post about how some fans will react (in my view, an very noisy minority who are trapped in the past) and we’ll see who’s right. I will hope the owners see the noise for what it is and disregard it.

I'm not sure the noise and disagreement from fans has been any greater under Wilder than it has been or will be under any other management. Especially after you control for the fact that he has been one if our most successful managers.

 

[Nick Jansky]

I'm not sure the noise and disagreement from fans has been any greater under Wilder than it has been or will be under any other management. Especially after you control for the fact that he has been one if our most successful managers.

If you revisit the thread, you will see that I was talking about what will happen once he has gone & been replaced.

 

[Slug]

O'Neil has already managed 100 games as a Premier League manager. David Weir hadn't managed a single game when he joined us.

O'Neil could be the new David Weir

 

[Wilderat Heart]

I meant Deane at his age now.

Fair shout on Bassett, but I’d say the gap in quality between the top division and the rest is a lot bigger now

I agree it definitely is but give Bassett the same resources Wilder got to spend when we went up?

 

[Torrix1889]

Based on what exactly?

Based on responses on here and other social media

 

[Youngand70]

If there's anything the rumours regarding changes to the football side, both structure and personnel it looks like the head coach would be part of a larger management team with a shared vision which in any business looks like a step forward.
It has its own risks but probably not as much as being dependant on one person and makes way for some continuity as individuals come and go ..something previous changes have often found to be difficult.

Whatever and whoever we should give it a chance to work .

Very much what I've been saying for a long time from a management structure and "modernisation" point of view. I'm afraid that many people are just not interested. I just hope that the new owners have got somebody with the right knowledge and experience advising them, as I do not see that person in the present board make up.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

It won’t split any more than it already is. It has been split since the awful decision to bring him back. That’s where the big mistake was made.

The next manager is on a hiding to nothing because of this. Even if they take us up, there will be those saying that Wilder would have taken us up better. The scrutiny will be intense and some won’t cut them any slack for anything. There will still be some agitating for Wilder to come back for a 3rd term, like the pigs who still call for Megson.

Wilder casts too big a shadow over the club in a way that has become very unhealthy. That’s going to hang around for a good while, so the sooner he goes the better, and we can start the long process of moving away from it into the next era. It won’t be without pain, but sometimes needs must.

Some are still wanting a good pre season for Chedwyn....

 

[1066blade]

I'm exactly with you. On the pitch he definitely deserves another crack for me despite the obvious warning signs post-Jan and I think we need to improve a lot to be in automatic contention. Those low margin games just aren't going to go in our favour as much next season. That said, I think at worst he's a safe pair of hands who will likely finish where our budget suggests we should. I'd definitely expect top 6 with him next season so any change is a huge risk.

On the other hand I do think the reaction in some quarters to him potentially leaving and the baggage he brings harms the club. We have seen that people who are backing Wilder above the club. You can see it in the local press, the loud minority on twitter and, quite naturally, his mates. It's become a cult of personality thing that I personally don't think is healthy for the club. We will have to cut ties at some point whatever happens and the fall out is going to be as messy as last time. People were begging for him back even as Hecky was taking us up and his shadow is going to loom over the club for a long time.

You expect top 6, but unlikely top 2 = disaster repeat. NO! My brain can't take it!!

Based on responses on here and other social media

Oh, I see, rumours and tittle tattle then

 

[Nick Jansky]

I just hope that the new owners have got somebody with the right knowledge and experience advising them, as I do not see that person in the present board make up.

They won’t exist in a vacuum. I have no doubt they will have been taking advice.

 

[1066blade]

I'm exactly with you. On the pitch he definitely deserves another crack for me despite the obvious warning signs post-Jan and I think we need to improve a lot to be in automatic contention. Those low margin games just aren't going to go in our favour as much next season. That said, I think at worst he's a safe pair of hands who will likely finish where our budget suggests we should. I'd definitely expect top 6 with him next season so any change is a huge risk.

On the other hand I do think the reaction in some quarters to him potentially leaving and the baggage he brings harms the club. We have seen that people who are backing Wilder above the club. You can see it in the local press, the loud minority on twitter and, quite naturally, his mates. It's become a cult of personality thing that I personally don't think is healthy for the club. We will have to cut ties at some point whatever happens and the fall out is going to be as messy as last time. People were begging for him back even as Hecky was taking us up and his shadow is going to loom over the club for a long time.

You expect top 6, but unlikely top 2 = disaster repeat. NO! My brain can't take it!!

 

[1066blade]

Based on responses on here and other social media

Oh, I see. Rumours and tittle tattle then.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Very much what I've been saying for a long time from a management structure and "modernisation" point of view. I'm afraid that many people are just not interested. I just hope that the new owners have got somebody with the right knowledge and experience advising them, as I do not see that person in the present board make up.

Pre takeover Des Taylor was apparently that guy. A few people said they had seen him at games but he's not been given an official role publicly so who knows!