A message to CW ….

[Wayne_Kerr89]

We have had enough CW it’s time for someone new Hand in your notice …


We lost the game because of wilders biggest tactical and managerial flaws

1) Insiting on playing Robinson whilst it’s clear for all to see Holding is better , it is a great goal by Sunderland but better centre back doesn’t let Mayenda have 2 yards of space a better one gives him half a yard and makes the shot harder


2) Wilder has no game plan and resorts to sitting back as we have seen multiple times this season over and over again we sat back from the 46th minute and got exactly what we deserve


For me it’s time for wilder to walk or the new ownership to grow a pair

Wilder is yesterdays man anyone who has watched the majority to games this season can see we have no game plan and no attacking pattern of play


Yes we got 90 points but that was very fortuitous , and because of top championship players not because of a tactical set up

He also gas lights the fanbase constantly telling us how bad the situation is/was at the club forgetting we signed a 10 mill striker a loanee who was quality in the prem and a centre back who he refused to play with 100 appearances for Arsenal


Wilder becomes toxic every single game he’s either high as a kite or blaming everyone and causing scraps how much have we forked out in fines



Sorry Chris it’s time to go

 

[SheepdipBlade]

While Wilder has his flaws, you don't get to 92 points by "fortune".

 

[GodricBlade]

Just what we need - another thread about Wilder saying more or less the same as all the others…..

 

[Wayne_Kerr89]

While Wilder has his flaws, you don't get to 92 points by "fortune".

I disagree


I think if you have a vastly superior starting 11 you can afford to be carried by sub par management as the players make up for that

 

[71Blade]

We have had enough CW it’s time for someone new Hand in your notice …


We lost the game because of wilders biggest tactical and managerial flaws

1) Insiting on playing Robinson whilst it’s clear for all to see Holding is better , it is a great goal by Sunderland but better centre back doesn’t let Mayenda have 2 yards of space a better one gives him half a yard and makes the shot harder


2) Wilder has no game plan and resorts to sitting back as we have seen multiple times this season over and over again we sat back from the 46th minute and got exactly what we deserve


For me it’s time for wilder to walk or the new ownership to grow a pair

Wilder is yesterdays man anyone who has watched the majority to games this season can see we have no game plan and no attacking pattern of play


Yes we got 90 points but that was very fortuitous , and because of top championship players not because of a tactical set up

He also gas lights the fanbase constantly telling us how bad the situation is/was at the club forgetting we signed a 10 mill striker a loanee who was quality in the prem and a centre back who he refused to play with 100 appearances for Arsenal


Wilder becomes toxic every single game he’s either high as a kite or blaming everyone and causing scraps how much have we forked out in fines



Sorry Chris it’s time to go

Agree mistakes were made on the day in terms of the team I'd have had o hare from the start probs in place of brewster some of the substitutions were head scratches. But and it's a big but .. who would come in who would improve us who would get us promoted?

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

 

[Wayne_Kerr89]

Agree mistakes were made on the day in terms of the team I'd have had o hare from the start probs in place of brewster some of the substitutions were head scratches. But and it's a big but .. who would come in who would improve us who would get us promoted?

There are lots of managers out there loads

We are a very attractibve proposition for any manager money to spend big club ready to go up with a good squad

 

[RAP51]

There are lots of managers out there loads

We are a very attractibve proposition for any manager money to spend big club ready to go up with a good squad

You make some valid points about Wilder in your original post and most of his good and bad points throughout the season were there for all to see at Wembley.
The Wilder we have now is a far different manager to the one who arrived in 2016.
There are plenty of managers out there, but most of them are out there for a reason, they failed at their previous clubs and us Blades have employed plenty of those in the past.
I am sitting on the fence as far as CW is concerned and can't make my mind up as to whether we should give him another chance.
I will always be grateful to him for what he achieved for us in his first spell but now do doubt that he is the right man to take us forward despite the points haul this season.
He has also not been someone to represent the club in a good light with some of his antics and if he stays as I'm pretty sure he will certainly needs someone above him to tell him to smarten his act up.
He is not the best manager in the world but there are plenty worse.
The decisions about him will not be made by us and if he is still in charge next season I think we will still be challenging for promotion but not be good enough for an automatic spot.
If the owners do replace him it needs to be now but don't think that's going to happen.

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

We have had enough CW it’s time for someone new Hand in your notice …


We lost the game because of wilders biggest tactical and managerial flaws

1) Insiting on playing Robinson whilst it’s clear for all to see Holding is better , it is a great goal by Sunderland but better centre back doesn’t let Mayenda have 2 yards of space a better one gives him half a yard and makes the shot harder


2) Wilder has no game plan and resorts to sitting back as we have seen multiple times this season over and over again we sat back from the 46th minute and got exactly what we deserve


For me it’s time for wilder to walk or the new ownership to grow a pair

Wilder is yesterdays man anyone who has watched the majority to games this season can see we have no game plan and no attacking pattern of play


Yes we got 90 points but that was very fortuitous , and because of top championship players not because of a tactical set up

He also gas lights the fanbase constantly telling us how bad the situation is/was at the club forgetting we signed a 10 mill striker a loanee who was quality in the prem and a centre back who he refused to play with 100 appearances for Arsenal


Wilder becomes toxic every single game he’s either high as a kite or blaming everyone and causing scraps how much have we forked out in fines



Sorry Chris it’s time to go

Been a few of your posts in the month-and-a-bit you've been on here that have smelled a bit off, but this is the one that confirms you as a troll. Only question is are you a Pig, a Leeds supporter (you certainly seem full of praise for Ampadu and Bogle), an alias of someone already banned or just a homegrown WUM. Either way, I'm done reading your bollocks.

 

[UddersBlade]

Problem is we literally only have 1 season left with parachute money. So I’m really torn on this. 92 pts last season means I’m probably 75% in favour of keeping Wilder - but it’s his blind spots & terrible use of higher transfer fees that really worry me….ie Robbo / Cannon. If he gets this wrong - this time next year will be having a fire sale.

 

[ASTONBLADE]

The decisions about him will not be made by us and if he is still in charge next season I think we will still be challenging for promotion but not be good enough for an automatic spot.
If the owners do replace him it needs to be now but don't think that's going to happen.

I honestly think our new owners will have expected promotion this year.

I've worked with US businesses in the past, and they do tend to act decisively

I'm expecting CW to be replaced quickly, or alternatively be told that nothing but promotion is good enough next season.

 

[UddersBlade]

I honestly think our new owners will have expected promotion this year.

I've worked with US businesses in the past, and they do tend to act decisively

I'm expecting CW to be replaced quickly, or alternatively be told that nothing but promotion is good enough next season.

That’s my experience of working for Yanks too….. IF they keep him ….. if we are not in top 2 after 10 games - he’ll be sacked. No doubt….. they already backed Wilder in January, so make no mistake…. Wilder will be clear on the expectations. No cosy relationship with The Prince anymore!

 

[TJ blade]

I honestly think our new owners will have expected promotion this year.

I've worked with US businesses in the past, and they do tend to act decisively

I'm expecting CW to be replaced quickly, or alternatively be told that nothing but promotion is good enough next season.

Same here, worked for Americans, it's very rare for them to give failure a second chance, were money's concerned there ruthless. Can't see them trusting Wilder with anymore money.

 

[William Large]

Just what we need - another thread about Wilder saying more or less the same as all the others…..

Another ‘look at me’ post. I understand the opinion but why create yet another thread…

 

[Tom Bott]

Wendy fans would love us to get rid of Chris Wilder.

They might then have a chance of winning a derby for the first time in 13 years.

 

[nopigfansintown]

He's a victim of his own success. Has done a brilliant job. Even Wembley, on reflection, was our best performance there since pre WW2. It's a laughable notion that we got 92 points because other teams liked our badge.

 

[b1ade4life]

Another stupid post.....but for a controversial VAR decision we go up, but for the goalkeepers studs stopping Brookes scoring we go up, but for a worldie save in the first 2 minutes we go up, but for a freakish season where our 2 main rivals get a 100 points we go up.......yet Wilder picking Robinson is the reason it all fell apart around our ears

 

[Espania blade]

My view is that Meyenda drifted to the right away from Robbo'. Robbo' is ball watching looking where the next pass is going,
The ball goes to Meyenda, Robbo' can't catch him as he's lost two yards on him, shit happens!

Wilder has said a few times he doesn't tell them to sit back, my criticism is that he sees it but doesn't bring his subs on straight away to change the dynamic.
Bearing in mind to inject pace and positivity he only has the three he brought on.

I also think he should (if fit enough) have played Siriki, that would have freed up Brewster to push forward a bit more instead of having to keep an eye Choudry and how he's handling a tricky fast winger.
Brewster does a heck a lot of defending I think a lot of miss this.

Lastly maybe he should have had One's on the bench if only to add more physicality up front, he might not be the finished article but he gives defenders something to think about, he'll get more game time next season.
What is done is done look to the positives ie no VAR

 

[skegblade]

While Wilder has his flaws, you don't get to 92 points by "fortune".
ot 92 but some of pur 3 pointers were scraped home as per saturday defending 1.0

 

[luffenhamblade]

Wendy fans would love us to get rid of Chris Wilder.

They might then have a chance of winning a derby for the first time in 13 years.

Pretty much every Championship club would like us to get rid of Chris - not because they want him as manager but because they know how good he is at managing the Blades.

 

[LONDON_BLADE]

There are lots of managers out there loads

We are a very attractibve proposition for any manager money to spend big club ready to go up with a good squad

Not being an arse, but give us 3 names that you'd appoint based on the following:

1 - They'd actually come to us.
2 - Outperform Wilder.
3 - Have an affinity with the fans. Most of out recent successful managers have had characters that compliment, or can relate to us and at some point, pull rabbits out of the hat!

Wilder turned the club around after a horrendous Prem season, gained a mad amount of wins/ points not to be promoted. Beaten just by 2 better teams, with stronger squads from the off and each having unprecedented seasons. In fairness we have gone from being a 'front-foot' team that we used to be.

Him and the management will know where we're weak, as do most of us (armchair pros) so let's see who we have to lose and who they get in.

I say stick not twist!

 

[Roygbiv]

The arguments about Wilder are the same England fans had about Southgate. Some will point to the dour football and failure to achieve at the final hurdle as reasons to want him out while others will point to his record and say we were simply just unlucky in the end.

It's not as simple as "we didn't get promoted so sack him" or "he got so close so keep him". If you think he still has it him to go one better next season then I can totally understand the reasons behind that given his track record but I can also understand people thinking he's now just a manager who's best days ars behind him and the game has moved on from him.

92 points will likely not be enough again next season. I think the difference in quality between the parachute payment teams compared to half of the league means were going to see huge points totals needed to go up for the foreseeable. The question is whether Wilder has it in him to better last season and not just match it.

 

[Le Cynique]

Stop your messing around
Better think of the future
Time you straighten right out
Creating problems in town

 

[HillmortonBlade]

The loss at Wembley was unfortunate and the real question is around the three losses on the bounce when we were in such a strong position. Oxford, Millwall and Plymouth (with all due respect to those teams) should not have returned 0 points to a team that accumulated 90(92).

 

[Berkshire Blade]

A message to? We? You only speak for yourself fella.

The reality is 92 points after having to rebuild a side almost completely, New contract with new owners in January and we go again with a manager with one of the better EFL records.

 

[Wayne_Kerr89]

The arguments about Wilder are the same England fans had about Southgate. Some will point to the dour football and failure to achieve at the final hurdle as reasons to want him out while others will point to his record and say we were simply just unlucky in the end.

It's not as simple as "we didn't get promoted so sack him" or "he got so close so keep him". If you think he still has it him to go one better next season then I can totally understand the reasons behind that given his track record but I can also understand people thinking he's now just a manager who's best days ars behind him and the game has moved on from him.

92 points will likely not be enough again next season. I think the difference in quality between the parachute payment teams compared to half of the league means were going to see huge points totals needed to go up for the foreseeable. The question is whether Wilder has it in him to better last season and not just match it.

I'm not sure we, as fans, can take another season of Wilder He's too much; he needs to fight with everyone and blame everyone to create a siege/victim mentality

Its boring and if that fails there is nothing else IMO

 

[luffenhamblade]

The arguments about Wilder are the same England fans had about Southgate. Some will point to the dour football and failure to achieve at the final hurdle as reasons to want him out while others will point to his record and say we were simply just unlucky in the end.

It's not as simple as "we didn't get promoted so sack him" or "he got so close so keep him". If you think he still has it him to go one better next season then I can totally understand the reasons behind that given his track record but I can also understand people thinking he's now just a manager who's best days ars behind him and the game has moved on from him.

92 points will likely not be enough again next season. I think the difference in quality between the parachute payment teams compared to half of the league means were going to see huge points totals needed to go up for the foreseeable. The question is whether Wilder has it in him to better last season and not just match it.

Great post, it's never that simple whichever way your heart and head says we should go. Whilst I'd keep Wilder and think he has done a good job, I'd be happy if we came up with someone attainable who could genuinely take us to the next level. I just haven't seen any names mentioned who I think capable of doing this but our board may know better. Either way UTB.

 

[Eric_Brooks]

My issue with wilder is even with the best will on the world, I am not sure there is any coming back from Saturday.

He layed it all out this season in the way he has acted, sometimes in the pub or in defeat when he struggles to take accountability for himself. He will never be humble and sometimes you have to learn life lessons to continue.

A slow start to the season and not getting the backing from the board he will want will just end up being a cluster fuck

 

[Booker4]

We have had enough CW it’s time for someone new Hand in your notice …


We lost the game because of wilders biggest tactical and managerial flaws

1) Insiting on playing Robinson whilst it’s clear for all to see Holding is better , it is a great goal by Sunderland but better centre back doesn’t let Mayenda have 2 yards of space a better one gives him half a yard and makes the shot harder


2) Wilder has no game plan and resorts to sitting back as we have seen multiple times this season over and over again we sat back from the 46th minute and got exactly what we deserve


For me it’s time for wilder to walk or the new ownership to grow a pair

Wilder is yesterdays man anyone who has watched the majority to games this season can see we have no game plan and no attacking pattern of play


Yes we got 90 points but that was very fortuitous , and because of top championship players not because of a tactical set up

He also gas lights the fanbase constantly telling us how bad the situation is/was at the club forgetting we signed a 10 mill striker a loanee who was quality in the prem and a centre back who he refused to play with 100 appearances for Arsenal


Wilder becomes toxic every single game he’s either high as a kite or blaming everyone and causing scraps how much have we forked out in fines



Sorry Chris it’s time to go

I wrote something rather ruder but I've edited it to say I disagree wholeheartedly.

We've got 92 points and at worst have achieved par for the course this season given that we had the third highest wage bill. Most seasons 92 would be enough for promotion.

I was one of the few who said we'd be right up there this season which I've been proved right. As for Sunday we had some bad luck with injuries to Hamer and Anel who was off the pitch at the time of their goal. VAR could have gone either way but I actually thought it was the correct decision.

Brooks and Moore both missed presentable chances. Watson and Mayenda are easily some of the best players in this league as are Ballard and Bellingham. I was gutted when they beat Cov because I think we'd have beaten Cov.

We need stability, we need continuity and we need to let Wilder continue to lead the club and transform the side which he did last summer.

 

[Need4speed]

I honestly think our new owners will have expected promotion this year.

I've worked with US businesses in the past, and they do tend to act decisively

I'm expecting CW to be replaced quickly, or alternatively be told that nothing but promotion is good enough next season.

If they had wanted promotion they should not have fucked about last summer and got the deal done then. Yes they backed Wilder in January but we were lucky in the first half of the season not to have had more injuries and the fact Peck played far more and better than could be reasonably expected.