Dean Henderson

[Greasy Chap Butty]

Yeah imagine if that happens to us next week & Sunderland’s keeper is not sent off & we lose the game. We’d feel sick & a massive injustice. So much as I love Henderson & am sick of City’s millions sweeping up trophies - the fact is that VAR screwed up big time - shocking decision. Henderson should have seen a red card.

VAR is useless in this country as the officials managing & using it are hopeless!

That decision, or lack of it, didn't cost city the game.
It was at the corner of the box and he could have scored. Maybe. They failed to put the ball in the net the whole match and hendo saved a penalty.
Unfortunately the new spoilt kids City, will have to get over themselves. Pep made a fool of himself on the pitch at the end and showed them for what they are.

 

[dexter101]

They need to stop hiding rules in wording that allows for ambiguity.

What is a clear goal scoring opportunity? Surely football is full of goal scoring opportunities.

I am glad we got to witness a great ex blade achieving something so special and reminding people that there is still a chance for 'smaller' clubs to compete in the cup.

 

[Ned the Donkey]

And this is why I've got fuck all interest in us getting back in the "Premier" League. Endless fucking debates about fucking VAR. Where the fuck is the fucking football in all this fucking shite.


Only 95%. What do you have to do to get recognised round here?

 

[Gimli]

They need to stop hiding rules in wording that allows for ambiguity.

What is a clear goal scoring opportunity? Surely football is full of goal scoring opportunities.

I am glad we got to witness a great ex blade achieving something so special and reminding people that there is still a chance for 'smaller' clubs to compete in the cup.

There has to be ‘ambiguity’ because no games and specifically no incident in a game is specifically uniform to another in a different game.

Football fans have been disagreeing about refereeing decisions (without VAR) since I assume the Sheffield rules were written (and almost certainly before that).

Every incident is seen differently by different people so it will always be at the discretion of the ref to interpret an incident as they see fit.

Take Henderson’s potential red card today, if you say ‘right any handling by the keeper outside of the box is an automatic red card’ then there would be occasions where that was a completely disproportionate punishment for the ‘crime’.

Even today, most are in agreement that it probably was a red, but it’s not an absolute guarantee that Haaland scores from there.

Like you say, football is full of clear goalscoring opportunities - who determines what one of those is given that football is not like ten pin bowling for example where every frame(?) is the same at the last and the same as the next.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

How many dodgy VAR decisions have gone Man City's way over the years? Wah, wah, wah! Suck it up Pep.

Even if the ref gave a free kick there's no guarantee that it would've gone in.

Congrats Palace and congrats Deano.

I've always been a sucker for an underdog. Palace remind me of us. A proper team for working class fans.

 

[gaz kay]

You can't go back and award a free kick (or indeed a yellow card) after the fact. It should have been picked up in real time, absolutely, but there's nothing they could do with VAR if they didn't deem it a red card offence once it had been missed.

That bollocks though. Glad it went that way but this is what we've got next season

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

How many dodgy VAR decisions have gone Man City's way over the years?

No more than any other team.

If you think they've been favoured then provide the evidence.

 

[Champagneblade]

It’s the only thing that makes any sense.

I’m very happy for the result but can understand why Pep is pissed off.

What is the actual point of linesmen ?

Pep’s got a team that cost over half a billion.

If he’s got to rely on a decision to get the opposition keeper sent off then he’s lost the plot.

City’s football bored me to tears but then again I never liked tika taka either.

Passing for the sake of passing might be his idea of fun, but there has to be end product.

For all Palace’s defenders first policy, the goal, the one a few moments after the goal and the disallows effort from the throw in we’re all better chances than City’s attempts to walk the ball in.

You can still argue Haaland was going away from goal and his direction of travel would have allowed the defender back. That seems to be what VAR thought.

As Deano said, who cares? It was a great final and would have been spoiled if it had gone the other way.

Pep got his 10 minutes that big clubs often get favoured with. He didn’t use his 5 subs and kept 100m Grealish on the bench. He has so many riches.

Also got a penalty that was far from clear cut. After Bernardo Silva pushed the ball on Mitchell touches the ball. Silva takes great glee in making sure he hits the deck after he’s a. Overrun it and b. The defender touched it. Very harsh.

Not to mention they were lightly treated on bookings. One double foul on Eze and Mateta warranted a yellow at the end of the half. Before Mateta claimed he’d hurt his should he was shoved off the ball which could have been a yellow. Doku twice went down and had penalty appeals turned down, so he could have been booked for simulation.

They have plenty go there way. Didn’t take advantage.

Palace in Europe. Another there for the first time. Does that mean the league loses a place as they are midtable?

 

[SwissBlade]

What ever happened today is irrelevant with Henderson. Something I do know is we should have signed him permanently. Ought to have pushed the boat out. Could have built a team around him. We would have been in Palaces position now

I don't think it was right for him or us at that time.

He had to go back to Man U and try to push into the first team. That was his desire and I think he's learnt a lot over the last few seasons since he was with us - disappointment, injuries. He's had some adversity to perhaps deal with and that was before he lost his dad.

We all knew that he was going to be a top class keeper and I don't it would've been wise at that time to build around him. We had peaked.

Its fantastic to see him win the FA Cup. Proves a lot to me about how things are done at the club to be able to attract players like him in the first place.

The Palace model is interesting, they picked Henderson up when he was low and worked with him.

 

[SouthStandGBlock]

It’s the only thing that makes any sense.

I’m very happy for the result but can understand why Pep is pissed off.

What is the actual point of linesmen ?

Surely Pep should be having a go at the Ref, not Hendo? If he'd come up wagging his finger at me at the end like a school teacher, I'd have told him to fuck off as well.

The decision not to send Hendo off might have been wrong, but that wasn't Henderson's fault.

 

[BrisBlade]

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Surely that's high feet from Haaland... Could have hurt Hendo's hand.

 

[54yrblade]

After that ace game yesterday, may I please clarify that 'Deano' was, is and always should be Brian Deane.
He wanted to be here long term and is a legend

Henderson can be 'Hendo'

Thank you for attending my SUFC Ted Talk

 

[Sharp as a blade]

Surely Pep should be having a go at the Ref, not Hendo? If he'd come up wagging his finger at me at the end like a school teacher, I'd have told him to fuck off as well.

The decision not to send Hendo off might have been wrong, but that wasn't Henderson's fault.

He was having a go at Hendo for time wasting.

You can see Henderson reply by holding 10 fingers up... "you got your ten minutes'.

 

[puppet]

60 years ago England won the World Cup given by a Russian linesman adamant he was correct. Many millions of re-runs of that goal proved he wasn't. And it still get's talked about today. Football as good as died when VAR came in. The all decisions or no decisions should've been ironed out after the first week it was used. The selective use of it makes it farcical, though personally, I'd prefer no use to partial any day.

 

[SouthStandGBlock]

He was having a go at Hendo for time wasting.

You can see Henderson reply by holding 10 fingers up... "you got your ten minutes'.

Pep has been a bit like Mourinho was, good when things are going his way, but boy he's struggled this season.

Yesterday was his chance to salvage something from the season, but Dean Henderson and Crystal Palace put paid to that.

 

[Brownieblade]

For me VAR is completely pointless if it doesn’t remove the is it or isn’t debate and I think that’s what annoys 90% of fans who dislike VAR, it just leads to 3 or 4 mins or longer of stopping the game and looking at it and then going back to, In some cases hiding behind the letter of the law

I think if you are going to have it it should be used as a straight forward forget what the ref thought he saw this is what it is

If you want to still have it’s down to what the ref initially thought then great, stick to that and move on

 

[dexter101]

There has to be ‘ambiguity’ because no games and specifically no incident in a game is specifically uniform to another in a different game.

Football fans have been disagreeing about refereeing decisions (without VAR) since I assume the Sheffield rules were written (and almost certainly before that).

Every incident is seen differently by different people so it will always be at the discretion of the ref to interpret an incident as they see fit.

Take Henderson’s potential red card today, if you say ‘right any handling by the keeper outside of the box is an automatic red card’ then there would be occasions where that was a completely disproportionate punishment for the ‘crime’.

Even today, most are in agreement that it probably was a red, but it’s not an absolute guarantee that Haaland scores from there.

Like you say, football is full of clear goalscoring opportunities - who determines what one of those is given that football is not like ten pin bowling for example where every frame(?) is the same at the last and the same as the next.

I completely agree with you but in which case VAR should be scrapped or changed so that the referee is the person who makes the call.

One of the things I do like about rugby is that the referee controls the game. There decisions and interpretations are consistent and the players know, that they are in complete control.

If the referee missed the incident yesterday, it should be for them to watch a replay and make the decision. That way the ambiguity is consistent

 

[mattbianco1]

His dad died a few months ago

Who's cutting onions this early??

 

[ben1987]

But but but they said Beadle was better….

Congrats Deano

 

[vas borbokis]

What ever happened today is irrelevant with Henderson. Something I do know is we should have signed him permanently. Ought to have pushed the boat out. Could have built a team around him. We would have been in Palaces position now

Bought him and built round him with who's money though? We'd have had to sell the rest of the team to fund buying him.

 

[Old Programme seller]

If the Hendo moment had happened against us what would your thoughts be?

 

[MTBlade]

As i said in a earlier post, i still havent seen a picture that shows 100% that he was outside the box.

The picture the BBC are using doesnt even show the ball, so how is that proof?

 

[mattbianco1]

As i said in a earlier post, i still havent seen a picture that shows 100% that he was outside the box.

The picture the BBC are using doesnt even show the ball, so how is that proof?

Clearly inside the box. Don't see what the fuss is about

 

[Isar]

As i said in a earlier post, i still havent seen a picture that shows 100% that he was outside the box.

The picture the BBC are using doesnt even show the ball, so how is that proof?

Seen a replay that does indicate his hand is outside the box, they could show the VAR images but seem reluctant, but I really don't care.
VAR has been used inconsistently since day one.
They may as well just get rid if it.

 

[MTBlade]

Clearly inside the box. Don't see what the fuss is about

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I wonder if im being to pro Hendo, but thats still not proof in my eyes hes touching the ball.

Yes, from this angle the ball is behind his hand, but can anyone tell me 100% Hendo is touching the ball?

Its guess work IMO, which keeps the decision with the ref, but i did used to play in goal .

 

[71Blade]

delighted for dean henderson. although i feel like a proud relative. as we all knew how good he was in 2019 & likely a blessing in disguise that man utd were blind to his talent because isnt a superstar

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Not sure if it's been mentioned but lost his dad pre season and when interviewed post match he dedicated the win to his dad. Love what he did for our club always remember his form after the Liverpool blunder took a bollocking and my God did his game rise to another level. He is a character and doesn't lack confidence. A day the lad will never forget. UTB

 

[Jon Bon II]

A good guy gets a break for a change. What's not to like? Don't give a flying about whether VAR were right or wrong. Well done Deano lad. Absolutely fully deserved. OABAAB.

 

[vegleeds]

60 years ago England won the World Cup given by a Russian linesman adamant he was correct. Many millions of re-runs of that goal proved he wasn't. And it still get's talked about today. Football as good as died when VAR came in. The all decisions or no decisions should've been ironed out after the first week it was used. The selective use of it makes it farcical, though personally, I'd prefer no use to partial any day.

Let's knock off that controversial goal in 1966 to show a score of 3-2. Makes no difference - we still win/won.

 

[Isar]

Just watching the FA cup final again, the reaction of the Palace fans as Henderson saves the penalty is priceless. Reminds me of our home night game against West Ham, celebrated like another goal.
VAR saved us that night.

 

[Jon Bon II]

Clearly inside the box. Don't see what the fuss is about

Henderson was just protecting himself from Haaland's attempted Kung Fu assault. If anything, Haaland should have seen red for attempted murder and Pep should be facing time inside for aiding and abetting the assault by picking him. Massive fuck up by VAR and the British justice system if you ask me.