Referee Oliver Langford’s Performance Tonight

[Bladesman]

 

[Grey Blade]

It wasn’t offside it was impeding a player

I didn't understand why the linesman put his flag up so late. Did the ref tell him to. As usual.with a lot of decisions, the fa

 

[Grey Blade]

fans are left baffled by the decision

 

[blade too long]

And no one mentions Peck being pulled back by the defender there's no way the defender would have got close ro hooking it off the line.he was further awY than the length of his legs as the ball crosses over the line.... very dodgy excuse

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

Goodman was caught at H/T on a hot mic saying Burrows was offside when he scored the pen.

His co-commentator Gary Weaver said that it was never a penalty since the defender got his foot on the ball at some stage .

To me , this assessment seems to slightly overlook the fact that prior to doing so , he had both arms wrapped around Kieffer’s throat.

Call me old fashioned but whilst not claiming to be an expert on the rules of the game , I would have thought that the attempted strangulation of an opponent within the penalty area would be an offence which was punishable by the awarding of a penalty .

 

[loyalblade95]

When watching the game, I thought the offside goal should have stood, but after watching the replays post game, it was the correct decision to rule it out.

Its a marginal offside decision, but Peck does stop Knight from making an attempt to clear the ball, personally I don't think he would have been able to clear it anyway as his starting position was too far away from it, even before Peck blocked him.

Red card, correct decision, Dickie only attempts to clear the ball after he brings Moore down, ironically he was sent off earlier this season at Ashton Gate for doing the same thing to O'Hare outside the box.

 

[Maurice Maurice]

If Peck wasn't interfering with play it's a goal because the ball gods straight in. If he is interfering then he's been fouled and it's a penalty. Either way, the officials got it wrong. Armstrong should have had a yellow card at least for three late challenges, Sydie shouldn't have got a yellow for a borderline foul. Moore got elbowed in the gob, foul and at least a yellow all day long...and on it goes.

Red card and penalty correct but the ref got a lot wrong for me, average at best.

 

[McGrath]

When watching the game, I thought the offside goal should have stood, but after watching the replays post game, it was the correct decision to rule it out.

Its a marginal offside decision, but Peck does stop Knight from making an attempt to clear the ball, personally I don't think he would have been able to clear it anyway as his starting position was too far away from it, even before Peck blocked him.

Red card, correct decision, Dickie only attempts to clear the ball after he brings Moore down, ironically he was sent off earlier this season at Ashton Gate for doing the same thing to O'Hare outside the box.

If you watch the replays carefully. Their keeper gets his hand to the ball just after Campbell heads it.

So surely that means the goal should have stood as Peck wouldn't then have been offside and there was no chance Knight could have got the ball on it's original trajectory from Campbells header if Peck hadn't been there anyway

 

[mattbianco1]

Why is everyone ignoring Sydie’s shirt being pulled?

I get you. But can't be a penalty if Peck is offside

 

[riselikeasalmon]

I get you. But can't be a penalty if Peck is offside

Yeah you are right but just watched it back frame by frame and can just about convince myself he had his shirt just before Ty headed it…………..

 

[Chimpan-A]

Just listened to Not the Top 20. Surprise surprise, those two clowns think Bristol were better than us, the pen was at best debatable, Dickie definitely shouldn’t have been sent off, campbell’s goal defo offside. Grudgingly saying O’Hare MIGHT have meant his flick, but with sarcastic overtones that he obviously didn’t. In summary, one refereeing decision “not in the spirit of the play offs” has ruined the tie.

What have United ever done to these two twats?

 

[JD88]

Thought he had decent game but the officials have 100% guessed the disallowed goal, or that linesman has the greatest eye sight in the history of humanity. There lad was pulling Peck before Campbell headed the ball as well.

 

[Beans]

I'm absolutely in awe at the amount of people who don't think that was a penalty and a red card. I understand the City manager reacting emotionally to it but come on. It honestly feels like gaslighting!

And by "amount" I mean "more than zero".

 

[MTBlade]

Re the Campbell effort.

Watched it a couple of times now and its so close, its one of those that if it goes against you its wrong, but if it goes with you its right.

To add another point, id like to see if the keeper wipes Campbell out after the header and if that should be a penalty?

 

[riselikeasalmon]

Going for the ball…..,

 

[dsr-burnley]

As far as the offside goes, it doesn't matter if Peck is trying to interfere with play or not. Interfering in this context doesn't have to be deliberate, just being in the wrong place is enough if it affects the game. He was in the defender's way, hence offside. (And if the ref did decide it was shirt pulling by the defender, it would still technically be offside as the offside offence would have happened first.)

In VAR terms, if any part of the player is in front of the ball, then it's offside - VAR is set up to disallow whenever possible. So if (in VAR terms) the player is both in front of and behind the ball, which is likely because he's wider than the ball, then "in front of" takes precedence. I would have thought under non-VAR rules he ought to have been level with the ball and hence onside anyway.

Just a thought - Peck was in an offside position when the ball was crossed. Could that have been the deemed interference that caused the flag? I doubt it, but it's not impossible,.

 

[Bell4]

It wasn’t offside it was impeding a player

Yup

Nailed it

 

[Blacksea]

Yup

Nailed it

If that's impeding a player,players shielding the ball and holding off an opponent while shepherding the ball out of play over the touch line is impeding,but it's always allowed
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[Grey Blade]

Just a thought - Peck was in an offside position when the ball was crossed. Could that have been the deemed interference that caused the flag? I doubt it, but it's not impossible,.

I couldn't understand why the flag was so late. It didn't go up immediately the ball crossed the line - as far as I could tell from the other end

 

[MobileBlade]

I'm absolutely in awe at the amount of people who don't think that was a penalty and a red card. I understand the City manager reacting emotionally to it but come on. It honestly feels like gaslighting!

And by "amount" I mean "more than zero".

It's frightening how many people don't know the Laws of the Game.

 

[Balham]

Peck was at worst level with Campbell when he was flagged offside. It’s a poor and incorrect call.

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I was correct above, Peck was behind Campbell's foot but it's the ball which is important (my mistake). With accurate lines (to 0.1mm on the image, adjusted for the angles):



It's incredibly tight. Has to be pointed out though...Peck shouldn't be that far forward and you can see Knight pulling his shirt on the still. Once they decided that Peck was offside it's an easy decision to disallow the goal because Knight has an easy clearance if Peck's not there.

 

[MobileBlade]

In VAR terms, if any part of the player is in front of the ball, then it's offside - VAR is set up to disallow whenever possible. So if (in VAR terms) the player is both in front of and behind the ball, which is likely because he's wider than the ball, then "in front of" takes precedence. I would have thought under non-VAR rules he ought to have been level with the ball and hence onside anyway.
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Not true. It's a part of the body for which the ball can be legally played. Therefore ignore any hand and arms.

 

[de g.]

It's frightening how many people don't know the Laws of the Game.

Not a ref so I have plausible deniability... When was the offside rule changed to take out the requirement for the ball to be played forwards? Law 11 makes no reference to it, which means a square ball or even a backwards pass would appear to be offside if made to a player in an offside position?

 

[MobileBlade]

Not a ref so I have plausible deniability... When was the offside rule changed to take out the requirement for the ball to be played forwards? Law 11 makes no reference to it, which means a square ball or even a backwards pass would appear to be offside if made to a player in an offside position?

It has never been a requirement to play the ball forward. Ever.

 

[NuddysGloves]

If only the defender had tugged Sydie's shirt a little bit harder he would have been onside.....

 

[Shadota]

If you watch the replays carefully. Their keeper gets his hand to the ball just after Campbell heads it.

So surely that means the goal should have stood as Peck wouldn't then have been offside and there was no chance Knight could have got the ball on it's original trajectory from Campbells header if Peck hadn't been there anyway

If Campbell's header is missed by the keeper and goes straight in, then yes, there's no issue and it's a goal.

But Peck would still have been in an offside position. He just wouldn't have had reason or opportunity to abuse that position to earn us a goal.

He's prevented their defender from protecting his goal, all from having been in an "illegal" position on the pitch per the laws of the game. The goalkeeper's slight contact with the ball doesn't change Peck being offside.

 

[munksyb]

So if Peck is about 5 metres from the goal line when deemed to be offside why does it take so long to give the offside flag
Peck had
run to the goal line
Got bundled into the net ( without touching the ball)
Ran to celebrate with Ty at the far post
Then gone to join the others celebrating with the others by the corner flag,
All before the Lino raised his flag

VAR comes to decisions faster than that

Did the limo have a replay in his head that he could review ?

As regards the interference
The ball was a good 2 to 3 feet over the goal line before Peck got to it, and the defender was still catching up to Peck whilst pulling his shirt at that point

GOAL every day of the week

 

[Revolution]

Just listened to Not the Top 20. Surprise surprise, those two clowns think Bristol were better than us, the pen was at best debatable, Dickie definitely shouldn’t have been sent off, campbell’s goal defo offside. Grudgingly saying O’Hare MIGHT have meant his flick, but with sarcastic overtones that he obviously didn’t. In summary, one refereeing decision “not in the spirit of the play offs” has ruined the tie.

What have United ever done to these two twats?

I like their work a lot, but I do feel they haven't been overly enamoured of us this season and haven't given us the credit we deserve. That said, Elek has tipped us to win the playoffs.

 

[Grey Blade]

So if Peck is about 5 metres from the goal line when deemed to be offside why does it take so long to give the offside flag
Peck had
run to the goal line
Got bundled into the net ( without touching the ball)
Ran to celebrate with Ty at the far post
Then gone to join the others celebrating with the others by the corner flag,
All before the Lino raised his flag

VAR comes to decisions faster than that

Did the limo have a replay in his head that he could review ?

As regards the interference
The ball was a good 2 to 3 feet over the goal line before Peck got to it, and the defender was still catching up to Peck whilst pulling his shirt at that point

GOAL every day of the week

It's almost as though the lino was told to put his flag up. The last fans to understand what's going on are the ones in the ground. I would love to see an official explanation

 

[Shadota]

So if Peck is about 5 metres from the goal line when deemed to be offside why does it take so long to give the offside flag

Seemed like there was discussion between ref and assistant over:

• If Peck was in an offside position;
• If he had impeded the Bristol players effort to reach and clear the ball before it crossed the line.

Once they came to the decision that the answer to both the above was "Yes", then the goal was disallowed.

As regards the interference
The ball was a good 2 to 3 feet over the goal line before Peck got to it, and the defender was still catching up to Peck whilst pulling his shirt at that point

Peck is blatantly shielding the ball as it approaches and crosses the goalline. Similar to how defenders shield the ball out of play for a goal kick. If he was being pulled by the defender or not does not matter, as the offside offence occurred first and thus takes precedence. Anything that happens afterwards is irrelevant.