Capacity

[Balham]

What is actually our capacity these days?
Websites say just over 32k but our sell outs are like 31.5k.

Premier League handbook has it at 32,050. Take out corporates and players' tickets not used* and you'll get to those sellout numbers.

*And, obviously, all those freebies returned by the universities and every school in South Yorkshire

 

[Sheffsteel]

Premier League handbook has it at 32,050. Take out corporates and players' tickets not used* and you'll get to those sellout numbers.

*And, obviously, all those freebies returned by the universities and every school in South Yorkshire

The 32,050 figure was accurate the last time we were in the Premier League 3 years ago.
Looks like they've not updated their records.

Sheffield United have their own hand book, it's a club charter that's updated every year.
Obviously info direct from SUFC overrides info direct from the PL.

In our own charter it clearly states that our current official capacity is 31,884.

club charter

Not sure why it's decreased yet again but capacity restrictions are often
due to allowing more or increasing disabled fans areas and/or increasing media areas.

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

The 32,050 figure was accurate the last time we were in the Premier League 3 years ago.
Looks like they've not updated their records.

Sheffield United have their own hand book, it's a club charter that's updated every year.
Obviously info direct from SUFC overrides info direct from the PL.

In our own charter it clearly states that our current official capacity is 31,884.

club charter

Not sure why it's decreased yet again but capacity restrictions are often
due to allowing more or increasing disabled fans areas and/or increasing media areas.

Yes looks right up to date that

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Can't remember last time I saw it 31.8k? I'm sure we've sold out this season aswell. (31.5k it was)

 

[Sheffsteel]

Can't remember last time I saw it 31.8k? I'm sure we've sold out this season aswell. (31.5k it was)

That’s the point of this thread.

We sold out several times last season and sold out a few matches this season. Meaning on the morning of the match you go on the ticketing website and it says no tickets available.

However even when both the home and away ends are officially sold out there always been quite a large inconsistency regards the official attendance these sell out matches Why?

Also our official sell outs always seem to be well below the official capacity. Why?

 

[Boxer Blade]

The Bramall Lane upper tier on the far right as you look at it from the kop next to the office block never seems full, always seats available.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

The Bramall Lane upper tier on the far right as you look at it from the kop next to the office block never seems full, always seats available.

Same with Pukka pie corner stand (whatever its called these days) Think them pointless seats are restricted as they're never full.

 

[Hobgoblin]

The Bramall Lane upper tier on the far right as you look at it from the kop next to the office block never seems full, always seats available.

i think they keep some of these free incase of problems, the last time we where in the prem my ticket was double sold for some reason and I ended up being put there

 

[S64 Blade]

The reason why nobody knows and it changes all the time, is that the club is bad at selling tickets. There's often poor communication about when they go on sale, or issues in getting hold of them.

The Wembley semi final debacle probably best exemplifies it.

 

[Sheffsteel]

The reason why nobody knows and it changes all the time, is that the club is bad at selling tickets. There's often poor communication about when they go on sale, or issues in getting hold of them.

The Wembley semi final debacle probably best exemplifies it.

I thought the club decided not to be involved in selling any semi-final tickets.
Apparently it was all done direct by Wembley....not 100% sure but I'm sure that what I read.

 

[Pintor75]

All this talk of attendances must be the womens game having an influence on some posters

 

[Stevo71]

The Bramall Lane upper tier on the far right as you look at it from the kop next to the office block never seems full, always seats available.

The reason being is because there is pigeon shit covering quiet a few seats in that area.

 

[Boxer Blade]

The reason being is because there is pigeon shit covering quiet a few seats in that area.

You learn something new everyday, apparently

 

[HuddersfieldBlade]

do dogs and cats still count in the official attendance?

 

[Stevo71]

You learn something new everyday, apparently

Seen it all with my own eyes, absolutely tons of the stuff. Apparently cleaning the stuff up requires specialist cleaning.

 

[Proper Blade]

I thought the club decided not to be involved in selling any semi-final tickets.
Apparently it was all done direct by Wembley....not 100% sure but I'm sure that what I read.

That wouldn't make any sense because the other clubs involved sold tickets quicker and with fewer restrictions

Brighton had already sold out by the time we put our tickets on sale

 

[JJBlade]

That wouldn't make any sense because the other clubs involved sold tickets quicker and with fewer restrictions

Brighton had already sold out by the time we put our tickets on sale

Luton as well
Amazing how clubs like Millwall, Luton, Gillingham and Wendy can sell between 2 and 10 times they're average support but we can't even sell tickets to supporters that go to Bramall Lane every week because of the stupid one ticket per person bollocks.

Fact is, I could have strolled into Hillsborough and bought a ticket for myself and somebody to go with quite easily for their game against Barnsley.
Our game against Man City, I could have eventually got one and travelled and sat on me fucking todd all day.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Every seat counted capacity - 32k
Crowd vs Coventry - 30.8k

What amount can we sell then? Because the ticket site was basically showing it was nearly a sell out.

Also guessing alot of ST holders were away/watched on TV because I saw a few gaps in JS.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

I hope the new owners have ambitions to expand the lane.

Or just even make it better.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Every seat counted capacity - 32k
Crowd vs Coventry - 30.8k

What amount can we sell then? Because the ticket site was basically showing it was nearly a sell out.

Also guessing alot of ST holders were away/watched on TV because I saw a few gaps in JS.

Our biggest attendance last season was a sell out against Man Utd of 31,543.
This season when we played Wednesday the match was sold out 1 week for it was played.
The away end holds 2,900 but this season the SAG have stopped us selling some of the front row seats, so away teams have only been given 2,725 tickets.
Against Wednesday SAG stopped us from selling the front 2 rows, assume it’s to prevent pitch invasions.
Wednesday were only given 2,425 tickets and the attendance for that match was 31,127.

So it does look like our working capacity is around 31,600….altho actual seats inside the stadium is over 32K.

When is a sell out actually a sell out?
The reason for the confusion is because SAG have ordered that certain areas of seating are the last to be sold and I believe require permission to be released.

The areas that aren’t put on sale until almost all the other areas are sold out first are

South stand, bottom of G block near the away end
John Street stand, bottom near the away end.
Basically SAG prefer a bit of a no man’s land between home fans and away fans.
Altho this restriction is ignored when we’re in the Premier league.

Kop, right next to the wall on gangway A, these are terrible views as they face the South stand and are only put on sale when the other Kop tickets are all sold.
Kop corner: There’s a batch of 80 restricted views behind a pillar that are only put on sale when all the others have gone.
Bramall Lane upper tier: Front 2 rows not put on sale. However when it’s a sell out they do release tickets on the 2nd row.
Noticed the front row never ever seems to be sold, that must be 200 seats and some of the upper tier seats near the JS stand are never sold either.

Think there might be capacity restriction based on the size of the concourse and how quickly that stand can be evacuated.
So the BL upper is always under capacity with 300 tickets that can’t be sold on safety grounds.

 

[S64 Blade]

Is there any other location in the country that has these bizarre rules in place? Just seems to be the Sheffield clubs that can't sell front row seats/seats near the away end. Seems to be fine everywhere else.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

I think we need a bigger boat.

 

[Selly]

Is there any other location in the country that has these bizarre rules in place? Just seems to be the Sheffield clubs that can't sell front row seats/seats near the away end. Seems to be fine everywhere else.

I'll wager any of the "older" (i.e. non bowl) stadia are similarly afflicted to a greater or lesser extent. There aren`t many stadia with a similar capacity that haven`t basically been completely rebuit in the last 30 years - whereas us and SWFC have away fans house in stands built in the 60's

Villa Park
Goodison
Ellend Road
City Ground
Portman Road

All in the 28-40k and all haven`t been completely rebuilt - but how many of them have stands built in the 60's coupled with poor egress and that house away fans?

I don`t know the answer but I can see why we might have unique circumstances (couples with SAG of course)

The fact that all these "rules" seemingly disappear in the PL (possibly because they know it will be a sell out or close far earlier) shows it isn`t a complete non starter to have those areas open.

 

[S64 Blade]

I'll wager any of the "older" (i.e. non bowl) stadia are similarly afflicted to a greater or lesser extent. There aren`t many stadia with a similar capacity that haven`t basically been completely rebuit in the last 30 years - whereas us and SWFC have away fans house in stands built in the 60's

Villa Park
Goodison
Ellend Road
City Ground
Portman Road

All in the 28-40k and all haven`t been completely rebuilt - but how many of them have stands built in the 60's coupled with poor egress and that house away fans?

I don`t know the answer but I can see why we might have unique circumstances (couples with SAG of course)

The fact that all these "rules" seemingly disappear in the PL (possibly because they know it will be a sell out or close far earlier) shows it isn`t a complete non starter to have those areas open.

Exactly, it's the flexibility of the rules that surely indicate, it's nonsense.

Those listed above all have similar, if not poorer away ends than at the Lane. All have shared, split stands as away ends too, without a 3 miles gap of segregation. Plus, we are not just talking about the Bramall Lane end here.

It's a bit coincidental that the only grounds where this is an issue, are both in Sheffield (although Hillsborough is of course, more understandable given the history and lack of changes since).

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Exactly, it's the flexibility of the rules that surely indicate, it's nonsense.

Those listed above all have similar, if not poorer away ends than at the Lane. All have shared, split stands as away ends too, without a 3 miles gap of segregation. Plus, we are not just talking about the Bramall Lane end here.

It's a bit coincidental that the only grounds where this is an issue, are both in Sheffield (although Hillsborough is of course, more understandable given the history and lack of changes since).

Also, I can only think of two large football stadiums that still have a spoil heap that constitutes one of their biggest capacity stands. Yeah, you got it…both in Sheffield.

 

[gaz kay]

Our biggest attendance last season was a sell out against Man Utd of 31,543.
This season when we played Wednesday the match was sold out 1 week for it was played.
The away end holds 2,900 but this season the SAG have stopped us selling some of the front row seats, so away teams have only been given 2,725 tickets.
Against Wednesday SAG stopped us from selling the front 2 rows, assume it’s to prevent pitch invasions.
Wednesday were only given 2,425 tickets and the attendance for that match was 31,127.

So it does look like our working capacity is around 31,600….altho actual seats inside the stadium is over 32K.

When is a sell out actually a sell out?
The reason for the confusion is because SAG have ordered that certain areas of seating are the last to be sold and I believe require permission to be released.

The areas that aren’t put on sale until almost all the other areas are sold out first are

South stand, bottom of G block near the away end
John Street stand, bottom near the away end.
Basically SAG prefer a bit of a no man’s land between home fans and away fans.
Altho this restriction is ignored when we’re in the Premier league.

Kop, right next to the wall on gangway A, these are terrible views as they face the South stand and are only put on sale when the other Kop tickets are all sold.
Kop corner: There’s a batch of 80 restricted views behind a pillar that are only put on sale when all the others have gone.
Bramall Lane upper tier: Front 2 rows not put on sale. However when it’s a sell out they do release tickets on the 2nd row.
Noticed the front row never ever seems to be sold, that must be 200 seats and some of the upper tier seats near the JS stand are never sold either.

Think there might be capacity restriction based on the size of the concourse and how quickly that stand can be evacuated.
So the BL upper is always under capacity with 300 tickets that can’t be sold on safety grounds.

In the prem under warnock away teams used to bring 2,990 so just under 3. Where have those seats gone

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Forest have no seats closed off? And there's literally home fans either side and above the home fans!

 

[Rodley]

In the prem under warnock away teams used to bring 2,990 so just under 3. Where have those seats gone

Apparently Wednesday have had some crowd trouble, so SAG have decided to shut some of our seats off as punishment.

 

[Sheffsteel]

In the prem under warnock away teams used to bring 2,990 so just under 3. Where have those seats gone

We lost seats on the away end when we built those fire escape stairs from the BLUT in the John Street corner.

I think some of the BLUT, Leppings Lane and SW North stand restriction relate to there being a restricted gangway area and the fans in there need to be able to be evacuated within a certain time.