Vital point in season

[grafikhaus]

Just noticed that six out of our next eight games (including Cup) are at home:
Sat. 18th Jan. v. Bradford (H) 15.00
Sun. 26th Jan. v Fulham (Cup - H) 13.00
Wed. 29th Jan. v Peterborough (H) 19.30
Sat. 1st Feb. v Crewe (A) 15.00
Tues. 4th Feb. v. Brentford (H) 19.45
Sat. 8th Feb. v. Shrewsbury (H) 15.00
Sat. 15th Feb. v Gillingam (A) 15.00
Sat. 22nd Feb. v Bristol C (H) 15.00

We should have a very good idea how our season will pan out after that lot.

 

[Darthblade]

Forgetting the distraction of the cup, which is irrelevant to our dreadful season, if we don't pick up a decent haul of points by the end of February, its going to be squeaky bum time in May.

We need some clear space between us and 4th from bottom asap or we are walking a tightrope over the grand canyon with no safety net.

And since we currently have nobody at the club who can score in a brothel ...............
Wake up Nigel !!!
UTB & FTP

 

[grafikhaus]

Agree about the Cup. Will we win it? No. Will we make a shed-load of money out of it? No. Will we pick up injuries and suspensions? Highly likely.

 

[Patrick Suffaux]

Good point grafikhaus. They're all tricky games for a number of different reasons.

United really need to get it together now and pick up some points over those games. Need to target a minimum of 15 points from that.

 

[The Glasshouse Blade]

I doubt we will get 15 but 14 sounds good, and with one or two of those around us in the league they'll be 6-pointers.

 

[Kenilworth]

We need some clear space between us and 4th from bottom asap

Erm - we need some clear space between us and the team at the bottom!
With Stevenage winning last night we are only 3 points above them

 

[DazBlade88]

I know we need to prioritise the league, and I completely agree with everyone that it's much more important than the cup games... But can't we just enjoy a positive cup run? I'm really looking forward to the Fulham game and I think we have a good chance of winning it.

We HAVE to start picking points up in the league though. The Bradford game on Saturday is huge, Stevenage play Notts County so at least one of them will be picking up points and we need to get away from this ASAP. I would look at the next 7 league games and say we are capable of winning 6 of them. Brentford is the one where I expect nothing from, but the other 6 I would be looking for us to get 12 points at least.

 

[ghandi]

I know we need to prioritise the league, and I completely agree with everyone that it's much more important than the cup games... But can't we just enjoy a positive cup run? I'm really looking forward to the Fulham game and I think we have a good chance of winning it.

We HAVE to start picking points up in the league though. The Bradford game on Saturday is huge, Stevenage play Notts County so at least one of them will be picking up points and we need to get away from this ASAP. I would look at the next 7 league games and say we are capable of winning 6 of them. Brentford is the one where I expect nothing from, but the other 6 I would be looking for us to get 12 points at least.

I don't think we are capable of winning more than 2 and don't honestly think we'll get any more than 8 points if that unless the Prince's money turns out not to be Monopoly money after all and its spent in the JTW.

 

[BladeFisher]

Just noticed that six out of our next eight games (including Cup) are at home:
Sat. 18th Jan. v. Bradford (H) 15.00
Sun. 26th Jan. v Fulham (Cup - H) 13.00
Wed. 29th Jan. v Peterborough (H) 19.30
Sat. 1st Feb. v Crewe (A) 15.00
Tues. 4th Feb. v. Brentford (H) 19.45
Sat. 8th Feb. v. Shrewsbury (H) 15.00
Sat. 15th Feb. v Gillingam (A) 15.00
Sat. 22nd Feb. v Bristol C (H) 15.00

We should have a very good idea how our season will pan out after that lot.

Well could be a false dawn given we're so garbage away?

 

[BladeFisher]

Erm - we need some clear space between us and the team at the bottom!
With Stevenage winning last night we are only 3 points above them

Not really, effectively 4pts at the moment. Look at the GD.

Notts County more of a worry, assuming Brizzle win their game in hand. Which is why getting sod all was a mini crisis. Just puts us under necessary pressure. Now if we only draw with Bristol City.... A mega-game that one.

 

[UnitedBlade]

Crucial time. We don't want a Mickey Adams February (2 points from 7 games) which effectively consigned us to relegation.

One thing to note is some of the sides above us aren't playing well eg Bradford.

It'll be a big blow if we can't turn them over.

 

[BladeFisher]

Crucial time. We don't want a Mickey Adams February (2 points from 7 games) which effectively consigned us to relegation.

One thing to note is some of the sides above us aren't playing well eg Bradford.

It'll be a big blow if we can't turn them over.

Think we will. Clough seems to be good at getting a result following a crap performance. Just need to be a bit more consistent, that's all.

 

[Bulletnut]

Nightmare scenario here, it's in our own hands and that scares the shit out of me. We don't look capable of putting a few wins together and we look fucking terrible against the team's around us. Hopefully Cloughie can make a couple of astute signings (not holding my breath with our boards record) and get the shower of shit organised and battling and we may be ok.

If we're still looking dodgy at the end of Feb I fear the worst. We've been harder to beat since Clough came in but I don't see why anyone would think that we're suddenly going to start beating teams. Hope I'm way off the mark but the signs aren't good.

 

[Bladesway]

Crucial time. We don't want a Mickey Adams February (2 points from 7 games) which effectively consigned us to relegation.

One thing to note is some of the sides above us aren't playing well eg Bradford.

It'll be a big blow if we can't turn them over.

To be fair we were consigned to relegation well before Micky Adams took over.

 

[Balham]

To be fair we were consigned to relegation well before Micky Adams took over.

Bollocks. We were 5th bottom when Adams joined; it was the fact that it took him 13 games to get a win which sealed our fate. I'd rate him as probably the worst manager we've ever had (beating Weir by virtue of a limited sample - if Weir had had half a season he'd be worse).

 

[sheffielder]

Bollocks. We were 5th bottom when Adams joined; it was the fact that it took him 13 games to get a win which sealed our fate. I'd rate him as probably the worst manager we've ever had (beating Weir by virtue of a limited sample - if Weir had had half a season he'd be worse).

Made worse by the fact he got rid of players he couldn't get on in Britton and Ward with and replaced them with players of the ilk of Doyle, Collins, Bent.

I am still hopeful that Nigel has a better plan this time but if we don't make signings soon this is going to the wire

 

[Bladesway]

Bollocks. We were 5th bottom when Adams joined; it was the fact that it took him 13 games to get a win which sealed our fate. I'd rate him as probably the worst manager we've ever had (beating Weir by virtue of a limited sample - if Weir had had half a season he'd be worse).

Put your teddies back in your pram. We were on a downward spiral well before Adams took over. He may have been the goon that made it happen but the writing was on the wall well before. FFS we got beat 4-0 at home against Scunthorpe.

 

[Balham]

Put your teddies back in your pram.

What are you on about? You made a ridiculous statement, I called you on it.

We were on a downward spiral well before Adams took over. He may have been the goon that made it happen but the writing was on the wall well before. FFS we got beat 4-0 at home against Scunthorpe.

That may be true but on December 28th (after Carver's last game in charge) we were 20th in the league, 2 points ahead of Scunthorpe in 22nd.

Adams' league record from that point on was appalling. It could be summed up by the complete lack of discipline (twice we ended up with 9 men) or by the capitulation from 2-0 up after 7 minutes at Scunthorpe or the lack of fight at Preston but I'd say that this record speaks for itself:

P24 W4 D5 L15 F23 A45

 

[Living In a Fantasy World]

Sat. 18th Jan. v. Bradford (H) 15.00
Sat. 1st Feb. v Crewe (A) 15.00
Sat. 8th Feb. v. Shrewsbury (H) 15.00
Sat. 15th Feb. v Gillingam (A) 15.00
Sat. 22nd Feb. v Bristol C (H) 15.00

These are I would say are the key fixtures we must be winning, we're on back to back defeats in the new year so we need to get our first 3 points asap and against Bradford their is no better timing. The rest of the fixtures are 6 pointers and must NOT lose. .. every game is important but beating the teams around you is key.... I still can't believe we are down at the bottom very depressing stuff .

 

[Bladesway]

What are you on about? You made a ridiculous statement, I called you on it.

Well, starting with the word "Bollocks" isn't a great way to get off. Then your "You made a ridiculous statement" in your latest outburst reinforces my thoughts.

I would suggest that at the time many of us thought we were in real trouble well before Adams joined us. We looked one paced and without a clue for much of that season. In fact the draw at Cardiff with 10 men was about the highlight of that particular season and further made a mockery of McCabes decision to sack Blackwell when he did.

I think Adams was an unmitigated disaster by the way but I don't think he got us relegated, we did that all on our own.

None of the above is ridiculous by the way. Take a look at the fixtures and you can see we were in deep shit well before clueless arrived.

 

[IOM Blade]

we need to get our first 3 points asap and against Bradford their is no better timing.

Bradford have just splashed out on Aaron McLean from Hull. Good player at this level.

 

[Bladesway]

These are I would say are the key fixtures we must be winning, we're on back to back defeats in the new year so we need to get our first 3 points asap and against Bradford their is no better timing. The rest of the fixtures are 6 pointers and must NOT lose. .. every game is important but beating the teams around you is key.... I still can't believe we are down at the bottom very depressing stuff .

Agree with the sentiment and we are already in the "must not lose" situation. But we could end up going down because we have drawn too many games as well. In short we must go out to win these games. Being difficult to beat is great but one point is sometimes no great deal either.

 

[grafikhaus]

I think Adams was an unmitigated disaster by the way but I don't think he got us relegated, we did that all on our own.

Agreed. Adams was possibly our second-worst manager ever (after Weir). However, under Adams we did beat Leeds and Forest at home towards the end of the season - something we can only dream about at present.

 

[Balham]

Well, starting with the word "Bollocks" isn't a great way to get off. Then your "You made a ridiculous statement" in your latest outburst reinforces my thoughts.

I would suggest that at the time many of us thought we were in real trouble well before Adams joined us. We looked one paced and without a clue for much of that season. In fact the draw at Cardiff with 10 men was about the highlight of that particular season and further made a mockery of McCabes decision to sack Blackwell when he did.

I think Adams was an unmitigated disaster by the way but I don't think he got us relegated, we did that all on our own.

None of the above is ridiculous by the way. Take a look at the fixtures and you can see we were in deep shit well before clueless arrived.

We weren't in great shape, I'll give you that. However, the bare facts are that we weren't in the relegation zone when Adams arrived yet we ended up going down with two games to spare, kept off the bottom by goal difference.

Any half decent managerial appointment in December 2010 would have kept that side up, particularly when they had a transfer window (which, IMO, is where Adams' dealings sealed our fate).

To reiterate: it is "bollocks" to make the "ridiculous suggestion" that we were "consigned to relegation well before Micky Adams took over". We'd been in the bottom three after three games but not since; Adams took over after 22 games. I'd recommend that you take your own advice and look at the fixtures yourself - it's all here: http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-championship/2010-2011/table/2010-12-29 and here: http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=2328&teamTabs=results

 

[IOM Blade]

http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-championship/2010-2011/table/2010-12-29

Oh dear. That table looks frighteningly familiar.....

 

[Bladesway]

Oh dear. That table looks frighteningly familiar.....

Which is why we should be so concerned.

 

[Balham]

Oh dear. That table looks frighteningly familiar.....

Yes but with the (hopefully critical) difference being that we've not just appointed the worst manager in our history.

The comparisons do continue though: Brandy/Ward? Britton/Cuvelier? Who's going to be this season's Doyle, Collins, Mattock and Lowry?!

Which is why we should be so concerned.

Completely agree. Here's hoping that Clough is better than Adams!

 

[cooperblade]

we look fucking terrible against the team's around us.

Against the teams currently below us, our record is W4 D1 L1.

 

[Jehovah]

Surprised regarding the comments about Adams. We were infeasably unlucky to lose some of those games when he was in charge. We destroyed Leicester and Norwich at home and somehow lost both of them. Millwall equalised in the 91st minute despite doing naff all for alll the match. He also gave me one of my best ever away days. 2-0 down at Reading to come back and win 2-3....that was just beautiful.

Oh and I've kust remembered Norwich away when we were in the lead twice, then the ref decided to award Norwich about 13 penalties ffs.

 

[AstonBlade4Life]

Agree with the sentiment and we are already in the "must not lose" situation. But we could end up going down because we have drawn too many games as well. In short we must go out to win these games. Being difficult to beat is great but one point is sometimes no great deal (

I would'nt worry too much, apparently we are making "steady progress" - that is unless you look at the league table and realise that we're still 1 point above relegation! When you factor in the purple patch you are meant to get with a new manager (which with the exception of A Villa seems to have well and truly finished), and you see the players being forced out of the club (not to mention some of the ones still here) you realise that its actually not going that well is it? Then you consider the type of players we have already brought in on loan / are apparently looking at to bring in and the futures not looking too bright either! Still UTB !!!