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Lama said:
Kieffer Nogoal has a better goal per game ratio than McBurnie during their respective United careers.
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If you're going to quote stats it's only really fair to use the comparative divisions. Moore has one goal in 6 appearances or 535 minutes (0.17 goals per 90 mins). McBurnie has 13 goals in 66 Championship games for United, playing 3,510 minutes. That's one goal every 270 minutes or 0.33 goals per 90.

Moore may have a better hold up game and have the huge advantage that he's far less injury prone but on the evidence so far he's not as reliable a goalscorer as McBurnie. I'll also put it out there that Moore won't score more than 2 Premier League goals for us.
 
Balham said:
If you're going to quote stats it's only really fair to use the comparative divisions. Moore has one goal in 6 appearances or 535 minutes (0.17 goals per 90 mins). McBurnie has 13 goals in 66 Championship games for United, playing 3,510 minutes. That's one goal every 270 minutes or 0.33 goals per 90.

Moore may have a better hold up game and have the huge advantage that he's far less injury prone but on the evidence so far he's not as reliable a goalscorer as McBurnie. I'll also put it out there that Moore won't score more than 2 Premier League goals for us.
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That is fair, though my comment was a facetious reply to calling Moore "Kieffer Nogoals", rather than a proper comparison, like you've done.

That being said, if you compare their premier league goals/minutes ratio, you would find that Kieffer Moore is more prolific in the PL, scoring at a goal per game of 0.33 as opposed to Oli McBurnie's ratio of 0.25. (Both adjusted for minutes played, rather than appearances.)

Across their respective careers, McBurnie has been more prolific in the championship, though perhaps by a smaller margain than you would expect: Moore's Champioinship ratio is 0.40, McBurnie's is 0.47.
 
IMG_4311.jpegJust back to resort from watching Las Palmas, poor standard really with McBurnie coming on around 30 mins to replace an injured player ironically enough , fed off across most of game with no clear chances , really negative team so he’s in for another long season id say, if anyone is over in Gran Canaria fully recommend contacting Stews Excursions who sorts out transport and a ticket in neutral zone 👍🏼⚔️
 
yamyamblade said:
View attachment 193664Just back to resort from watching Las Palmas, poor standard really with McBurnie coming on around 30 mins to replace an injured player ironically enough , fed off across most of game with no clear chances , really negative team so he’s in for another long season id say, if anyone is over in Gran Canaria fully recommend contacting Stews Excursions who sorts out transport and a ticket in neutral zone 👍🏼⚔️
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Very cool.

By the way, are you the guy in the denim short shorts?
 
yamyamblade said:
View attachment 193664Just back to resort from watching Las Palmas, poor standard really with McBurnie coming on around 30 mins to replace an injured player ironically enough , fed off across most of game with no clear chances , really negative team so he’s in for another long season id say, if anyone is over in Gran Canaria fully recommend contacting Stews Excursions who sorts out transport and a ticket in neutral zone 👍🏼⚔️
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It's not Like Las Palmas are so negative they don't have any shots ( almost 20 in last 2 games)

Sadly McBurnie has been dropped to bench and had just the 1 shot across both games.
 
I am informed but cannot confirm my source that the Las Palmas fans have, in a Native American Stylie labelled our old favourite “runs in superglue !!!!”

Make of that what you want to 😉.

Emphatic no from moi.

UTB
 
DronnieBlade said:
I am informed but cannot confirm my source that the Las Palmas fans have, in a Native American Stylie labelled our old favourite “runs in superglue !!!!”

Make of that what you want to 😉.

Emphatic no from moi.

UTB
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Oh come on Dronnie, you were such a big fan of his when he was here, what's changed?

3 goal contributions in 10 appearances (7 starts) for a poor side who sit second bottom of a tough league (An assist against Real Madrid in those numbers too).
1 goal contribution in 11 appearances (10 starts) for a team challenging for promotion in a second flight division (a lot more minutes played in those games too).

I know who I'd much rather have here.
 
Vass Borbokis said:
Oh come on Dronnie, you were such a big fan of his when he was here, what's changed?

3 goal contributions in 10 appearances (7 starts) for a poor side who sit second bottom of a tough league (An assist against Real Madrid in those numbers too).
1 goal contribution in 11 appearances (10 starts) for a team challenging for promotion in a second flight division (a lot more minutes played in those games too).

I know who I'd much rather have here.
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Aye
But it’s not necessarily (or ‘shouldn’t’ be) binary is it ?
If finances allow(ed) I’d have both & even play both together !
 
Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn said:
Aye
But it’s not necessarily (or ‘shouldn’t’ be) binary is it ?
If finances allow(ed) I’d have both & even play both together !
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Agree, however we strung Oli along all close season, he was training with us, expecting to sign.
We're now stuck with a vastly underperforming Moore as our only out and out striker.
Absolutely woeful planning from the club, not for the first time.
 
Nick Jansky, can't help but notice you've liked the post.

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Nick Jansky said:
You are expressing an opinion, but opinions can look foolish.

You’re going to be disappointed because you don’t appear to understand the type of player he is or his role in the team. But that’s fine, because it’s clear from comments on this & other threads that most people do understand it.
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Obviously you were calling me foolish for my opinions on Moore after only 4 games.
Given we now have a larger sample size, are you of the same belief that your understanding, outweighs what we've seen in the past 11 appearances?
How long exactly is it until we start to understand what type of player he is?
 

Vass Borbokis said:
Nick Jansky, can't help but notice you've liked the post.

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Obviously you were calling me foolish for my opinions on Moore after only 4 games.
Given we now have a larger sample size, are you of the same belief that your understanding, outweighs what we've seen in the past 11 appearances?
How long exactly is it until we start to understand what type of player he is?
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I think we already understand very well what sort of player he is. He is a very good Championship player which he proved in the second half of last season at Ipswich. Unfortunately, he isn't a player that fits into the system that Wilder insists on playing where crosses rarely come into the box and players don't get around him. For that reason he is currently a square peg in a round hole. That doesn't diminish his abilities in any way, but it does say that McB would be a better fit than him in the system we currently seem to be welded to.
 
Vass Borbokis said:
Oh come on Dronnie, you were such a big fan of his when he was here, what's changed?

3 goal contributions in 10 appearances (7 starts) for a poor side who sit second bottom of a tough league (An assist against Real Madrid in those numbers too).
1 goal contribution in 11 appearances (10 starts) for a team challenging for promotion in a second flight division (a lot more minutes played in those games too).

I know who I'd much rather have here.
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Neither of them.
 
Vass Borbokis said:
Agree, however we strung Oli along all close season, he was training with us, expecting to sign. We're now stuck with a vastly underperforming Moore as our only out and out striker. Absolutely woeful planning from the club, not for the
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Aye
Compounded by how we chose / choose to utilise them - yes strong in the air - but expecting them to play mostly with back to goal ‘automatically’ limits goal scoring opportunities (irrespective of each of their finishing abilities)
Like (most every) forward (footballer) you have a better chance of scoring if facing the ‘right’ way - looking @ Moore’s goals for Ipswich & McB for Swansea & Barnsley ( including agin us !) evidences this
 
the rumour is that tom cannon wants to go back to leicester in january so he can join us
 
Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn said:
Aye
Compounded by how we chose / choose to utilise them - yes strong in the air - but expecting them to play mostly with back to goal ‘automatically’ limits goal scoring opportunities (irrespective of each of their finishing abilities)
Like (most every) forward (footballer) you have a better chance of scoring if facing the ‘right’ way - looking @ Moore’s goals for Ipswich & McB for Swansea & Barnsley ( including agin us !) evidences this
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Having just seen Citeh v Sparta Praha I may have to re-appraise this ?
Ridiculous skill
 
If we had a choice in either ‘loaning McBurnie back’ or ‘sticking with Keefer Moore until the end of the season and just hope he will come good’, my vote would go to bringing McBurnie back, 100% definately
 
Not quite sure why anyone thinks he's got sale or even loan in January he's playing for them...
 
If we sign any forward in the JTW he needs to be a finisher with a view to the future, instead of going backwards, move on
 

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