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Millhousesblade1889 said:
Bloody hell, he was nowhere near the worst player last night. Constantly the scapegoat
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I wouldn't say he was the worst player last night. Only that he was as bad as most of them were. Not scapegoating anyone.
But how long have some sectors on here been banging on about he needs 90 minutes?
Well, he's had 90 minutes. What kind of impact did this wonder kid have on the game?
Do tell.
 
Key question for me on Brewster is what role he’s playing really. He seems to be in the middle of a re-invention as a McGoldrick type striker who drops deep. Or potentially even more of an attacking midfielder. In some ways, that’s fine if it does actually bring out the best of him. But in other ways, it’s not so great as it leaves us desperately short for the striker position. It’s literally just Kieffer Moore.

He also looks like he’s lost a yard of pace. Not sure if that’s a match sharpness thing or just what he’s like now.
 
djbaldken said:
I wouldn't say he was the worst player last night. Only that he was as bad as most of them were. Not scapegoating anyone.
But how long have some sectors on here been banging on about he needs 90 minutes?
Well, he's had 90 minutes. What kind of impact did this wonder kid have on the game?
Do tell.
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Out of all the attacking players in the United shirt on the pitch, he was one of the better ones with Rak-Sakyi. He almost set up an equaliser and made some great through balls to the wingers. While his overall impact wasn’t much beyond average compared to the rest, I noticed that you’ve focused on him in your posts after last night’s game. It feels like you’re unfairly scapegoating Brewster as many do on here, there's an undeniable agenda against him due to his injury record and the amount we paid for him.

Honestly, I think he had a bigger impact than Moore, O'Hare, McCallum, Peck, and Blaster. I didn’t come away from the match frustrated with him; in fact, he showed some glimpses of promise that stood out.
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
Out of all the attacking players in the United shirt on the pitch, he was one of the better ones
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Which basically is not saying much at all cause none of them were any good.
Millhousesblade1889 said:
He almost set up an equaliser
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Raj Sakyi almost scored. But he didnt.
Millhousesblade1889 said:
his overall impact wasn’t much beyond average
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Correct!
Millhousesblade1889 said:
you’re unfairly scapegoating Brewster as many do on here
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Myself and others on here are not unfairly scapegoating him. There's nothing unfair about it at all. None of us can see any of the glimpses of stand out promise in him. Nor do I personally have an agenda against him. I would love him to become everything you seem to think he is .
He is not the player we expected him to be. He had one good season with Swansea. That's all. Nothing since. And nothing I've seen in the time he's been here will convince me he will get any better than he already is.
 
djbaldken said:
Which basically is not saying much at all cause none of them were any good.

Raj Sakyi almost scored. But he didnt.

Correct!

Myself and others on here are not unfairly scapegoating him. There's nothing unfair about it at all. None of us can see any of the glimpses of stand out promise in him. Nor do I personally have an agenda against him. I would love him to become everything you seem to think he is .
He is not the player we expected him to be. He had one good season with Swansea. That's all. Nothing since. And nothing I've seen in the time he's been here will convince me he will get any better than he already is.
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It seems that many responses lack depth or meaningful consideration.

Our attacking options are quite limited; we have only one striker, Moore, with Brewster as a backup. Given the circumstances and the fact that Brewster has performed better than some of his teammates in the two matches he has started, it's worth noting that while his performance may have been average or slightly above average, the focus of criticism seems to be solely on him. Why is that? O'Hare struggled significantly, Moore was also underwhelming, Peck was like a boy in a man’s game, and McCallum was simply awful.

Brewster cannot be blamed for our loss yesterday; in fact, he contributed positively in several moments.

You've said you want him to be a success. So maybe flip the narrative and look at the positives. After enduring two consecutive years of injury, he is likely just beginning to regain his confidence in sprinting without the fear of re-injuring his hamstring.

With the ball, he is starting to gain confidence in his passing. While it’s true that he hasn’t been consistent since he signed and has had long periods of inactivity, I believe that with continued fitness, his performances will improve.

If your intention is for him to succeed, then why bring up the initial comment: “He played the full game tonight. Did anybody notice?”.

Get behind the lad, he’s had a shit time & wants to play football and help us win. Nothing about his performances this season have made me doubt that.
 
Brewster's been out of the game for so long that he nor anybody else really knows what he is or what he's good at.

He couldn't hit a barn door in the ill-fated season that he joined us, then he's been out injured for god knows how long.

If we didn't have such pitiful levels of depth in the squad, the best thing for him would be a loan out to League One to really gauge where his level is, for the sake of his own confidence and career expectations more than anyone else. If, hypothetically, he'd gone to, say, Rotherham, banged in 10 goals before Christmas, we'd have got him back and he could be the difference between being promoted or not.

The role he was in last night was no good though, he couldn't defend for toffee and was run ragged by Doak who was probably their best player.
 
Badger Blade said:
Brewster's been out of the game for so long that he nor anybody else really knows what he is or what he's good at.

He couldn't hit a barn door in the ill-fated season that he joined us, then he's been out injured for god knows how long.

If we didn't have such pitiful levels of depth in the squad, the best thing for him would be a loan out to League One to really gauge where his level is, for the sake of his own confidence and career expectations more than anyone else. If, hypothetically, he'd gone to, say, Rotherham, banged in 10 goals before Christmas, we'd have got him back and he could be the difference between being promoted or not.

The role he was in last night was no good though, he couldn't defend for toffee and was run ragged by Doak who was probably their best player.
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The problem is that we’ve spent too much money on him to loan him out to Rotherham, that would be admitting failure.

I hope he has a decent season and then leaves at the end of his contract. If anyone even considers giving him a new deal unless he scores 15+ goals this season then we really are desperate. His wages could go on a much more effective winger/forward/attacking midfielder/shadow striker or whatever the fuck position we try him in next to try and get some value out of the signing.

The other issue is that Campbell is a bit like Craig Beattie crossed with Marcus Bent mk2 so we don’t have much option but to play Brewster somewhere at the top of the pitch.

The fact that no one knows where to play Brewster is an issue and now we’re trying a scattergun approach to try and justify him being good at something.

Despite everyone trying to say how good he’s been I don’t think he’s objectively scored more than a 6/10 in any game this season. People will focus on the one run he had last night and spin it into this season’s ’legendary Wolves’ performance. If people were able to take off their Rhian tinted specs then they’d realise it was just another average to poor showing from the lad. At least he’s now touching the ‘average’ as well as the ‘poor’ though.
 
He’s being played in desperation. We’re desperate for a reasonably fit player to fill a hole somewhere/anywhere in whatever new formation the Premier League Manager and former LMY and Master Tactician decides and Wilder is desperate for him to show that he isn’t the worst signing since Chris Guthrie by at least scoring a goal. If we had anyone else performing as they ought to including Wilder, he wouldn’t be near starting.
 
He's so so bad, there's no other way to say it, I hope he's saved his money up because he has no future in league football in my opinion, I think he's the worst player we've ever had on our books for as long as 5 years, obviously there has been worse but they don't last 5 years here. Easily our worst signing ever, and one of the all time worst in English football too.
 
FinchleyBlade said:
The worst pound for pound signing in the history of Sheffield United. That's all to be said sadly. With his wages included he has cost this club an absolutely astronomical amount of money. Everyone involved in the transfer should lose their jobs.
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I can't be arsed to add his total minutes played, but I strongly suspect he is better 'value' than Ebrell (£1m / 45 mins = £22k per minute).

That would of course be just transfer fee and chucking wages in Brewster would 'win' the title.
 

Wilder playing him out of positiin is the problem he should be playing as our centre forward not Moore if anything.
 


We had Moore playing as the lone striker last night. By common consent, he was terrible. He’s been a disappointment so far. He doesn’t look like scoring and his movement isn’t great. And it’s not as if he’s doing the other things big lads up front are generally expected to do such as win headers and hold up the ball to bring others into play.

So, what do we do? Persevere with Moore? Bring Campbell in? I’m not optimistic about either scenario. I tend to agree with Deadbat’s opinion of Campbell: “looks very unfit and lacks mobility and pace”.

Brewster wasn’t great last night overall (and his tracking back was non-existent to my eyes) but he had a handful of bright moments: the early run down the left, a couple of nice passes of which by far the best was his pass to Rak-Sakyi second half and, near the end an excellent run into space in the box which ended with his ball across the six-yard box that was scooped over the bar by their defender. That movement which demanded (and got) the pass from Hamer was the movement of a striker.

The above highlights video - I hope it’s posted correctly - are from the last Premier League game Brewster started as a striker, eight months ago. He didn’t score. He messed up when he failed to square to McAtee in the first half, instead doing a characteristic blaze over the bar by trying to hit it too hard. But his movement and energy were good and he got three shots on target and he was playing on his own up front against a defence which by definition was a better one than those he’s going to encounter this season in the Championship.

We can all lament the price we paid for Brewster and the terrible return there’s been on that investment. But that puts me in mind of the old joke about the bloke who stops his car and asks a passer-by for directions and gets the reply: “I wouldn’t start from here if I were you”. We have to start from here. And if I was to ask myself whether we’d have put up a better show and given ourselves a better chance last night by starting with Brewster up top, my answer would be yes.
 
North Shields Blade said:


We had Moore playing as the lone striker last night. By common consent, he was terrible. He’s been a disappointment so far. He doesn’t look like scoring and his movement isn’t great. And it’s not as if he’s doing the other things big lads up front are generally expected to do such as win headers and hold up the ball to bring others into play.

So, what do we do? Persevere with Moore? Bring Campbell in? I’m not optimistic about either scenario. I tend to agree with Deadbat’s opinion of Campbell: “looks very unfit and lacks mobility and pace”.

Brewster wasn’t great last night overall (and his tracking back was non-existent to my eyes) but he had a handful of bright moments: the early run down the left, a couple of nice passes of which by far the best was his pass to Rak-Sakyi second half and, near the end an excellent run into space in the box which ended with his ball across the six-yard box that was scooped over the bar by their defender. That movement which demanded (and got) the pass from Hamer was the movement of a striker.

The above highlights video - I hope it’s posted correctly - are from the last Premier League game Brewster started as a striker, eight months ago. He didn’t score. He messed up when he failed to square to McAtee in the first half, instead doing a characteristic blaze over the bar by trying to hit it too hard. But his movement and energy were good and he got three shots on target and he was playing on his own up front against a defence which by definition was a better one than those he’s going to encounter this season in the Championship.

We can all lament the price we paid for Brewster and the terrible return there’s been on that investment. But that puts me in mind of the old joke about the bloke who stops his car and asks a passer-by for directions and gets the reply: “I wouldn’t start from here if I were you”. We have to start from here. And if I was to ask myself whether we’d have put up a better show and given ourselves a better chance last night by starting with Brewster up top, my answer would be yes.
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It's far easier to just come on here and whinge about how much he cost us though.
Just look at the last few pages.
Each post stating the exact same fact that we overpaid for him, as if it's brand new information.

His movement in that game at Wolves was quality, technique spot on for the first two shots, third one was stretching too much.
That clip also didn't show him getting hauled down when running through, which should have been a red card.

Was that the last match we had a striker have 3 shots on target by the way?
 
Vass Borbokis said:
It's far easier to just come on here and whinge about how much he cost us though.
Just look at the last few pages.
Each post stating the exact same fact that we overpaid for him, as if it's brand new information.

His movement in that game at Wolves was quality, technique spot on for the first two shots, third one was stretching too much.
That clip also didn't show him getting hauled down when running through, which should have been a red card.

Was that the last match we had a striker have 3 shots on target by the way?
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That Wolves performance gets more and more legendary status as time goes by, in years to come some Blades will be telling their grandkids about it.
 
I’m really starting to believe that Keffer Moore is a down graded version of McBurnie. For such a big bloke he seems easily pushed off the ball or beaten to headers. McBurnie’s hold up play was also miles better than Moore’s (from what I’ve seen of KM up to now). I do think we’re not exactly playing to KM’s strengths but on the other hand I’m wondering what his strengths are. Willing to give him more time but I just can’t see it with him at the moment.
P.S. this isn’t me singling out KM as there is plenty of others not pulling the weight these past few games. The fact none of the players have shown half the balls and fight that George Baldock did EVERYTIME he pulled that shirt on has angered me to fuck. I honestly thought the players would’ve ’done it for George’ (100% effort). I don’t give a fuck about the result if the players can honestly say they’ve left it all out there.
 
Vass Borbokis said:
It's far easier to just come on here and whinge about how much he cost us though.
Just look at the last few pages.
Each post stating the exact same fact that we overpaid for him, as if it's brand new information.

His movement in that game at Wolves was quality, technique spot on for the first two shots, third one was stretching too much.
That clip also didn't show him getting hauled down when running through, which should have been a red card.

Was that the last match we had a striker have 3 shots on target by the way?
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I actually thought he played really well vs Wrexham too other than his finishing. He deserves a chance up top in my opinion because Moore is completely out of form.
 
Blademan18891889 said:
He's so so bad, there's no other way to say it, I hope he's saved his money up because he has no future in league football in my opinion, I think he's the worst player we've ever had on our books for as long as 5 years, obviously there has been worse but they don't last 5 years here. Easily our worst signing ever, and one of the all time worst in English football too.
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I don't think you know very much about football.
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
It seems that many responses lack depth or meaningful consideration.

Our attacking options are quite limited; we have only one striker, Moore, with Brewster as a backup. Given the circumstances and the fact that Brewster has performed better than some of his teammates in the two matches he has started, it's worth noting that while his performance may have been average or slightly above average, the focus of criticism seems to be solely on him. Why is that? O'Hare struggled significantly, Moore was also underwhelming, Peck was like a boy in a man’s game, and McCallum was simply awful.

Brewster cannot be blamed for our loss yesterday; in fact, he contributed positively in several moments.

You've said you want him to be a success. So maybe flip the narrative and look at the positives. After enduring two consecutive years of injury, he is likely just beginning to regain his confidence in sprinting without the fear of re-injuring his hamstring.

With the ball, he is starting to gain confidence in his passing. While it’s true that he hasn’t been consistent since he signed and has had long periods of inactivity, I believe that with continued fitness, his performances will improve.

If your intention is for him to succeed, then why bring up the initial comment: “He played the full game tonight. Did anybody notice?”.

Get behind the lad, he’s had a shit time & wants to play football and help us win. Nothing about his performances this season have made me doubt that.
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I really admire your optimism regarding Brewster.

You say ' Brewster has performed better than some of his teammates in the two matches he has started, it's worth noting that while his performance may have been average or slightly above average', I agree with this, his performance has been average. But over the last four seasons he's been here that's all he ever has been. Average at best.
I agree with your assessment of O Hare and Moore, their performances over the last few games have been less than expected. But they've only been here for a quarter of the season so far.
In my above post I didn't just focus on Brewster I said they were ALL poor. Nowhere in the post did I blame him for the loss last night.

Yes he's had a shit time. Yes he wants to play football. Yes of course he wants us to win. I want us to win. But overall, nothing about his performance at any time he's been here, has convinced me that he is going to improve much more than he already has.

All I'm saying here , is MY opinion. Yours is obviously different to mine and it's one you are entitled to have.
 

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