Our new manager is.....

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Here we go! It's started. Exactly as I predicted.

The Hoofers want one of their own at all costs. They cover their ears when every person in authority at SUFC confirms that we are going to play proper football and pretend it hasn't been said.

They will die in the trenches before they will knowingly allow our players to pass the ball to each other.

They will fight tooth and nail against ball control, intelligent movement and possession. Why do such things when you can launch it aimlessly forward and make the game a continuous succession of 50/50 balls, just like we used to do as kids in the playground?

They are desperate to install a monothought non-achiever such as Muckanettles but only as a poor substitute for their spiritual heroes Semipro, Quickfix or the great guru himself. Anyone but a footballing manager. None of your fancy stuff here, lad. This is s2, the kingdom of kick and rush.

The game's afoot:
Follow your spirit, and upon this charge Cry 'God for Hoofball, England, and Saint Kev!'

Henry V

Too painful to mention the win?

 

[stannyblade]

If Clough was at Crewe, who we play next week, then it looks pretty certain he's going to be the new manager. There is absolutely no other rational explanation for him being there.

If indeed he was??

That's what Alan Biggs was getting at. Said his spies had told him.

 

[WhiteHawk]

 

[Mendi]

Alan Biggs ‏@AlanBiggs118s
Hearing the League Managers Association have been active in helping Nigel Clough & staff settle with Derby in bid to smooth path to #sufc.

 

[Mendi]

Sean Taylor ‏@SEANTAYLORpress55s
@AlanBiggs1 I have been told that too. Clough was at Crewe v Bristol City today, Alan. #sufc play Crewe next weekend.

 

[brownie4583]

Quite right. I mean people like Unsworth, Shipperley, Jagielka, Tonge, Ifill, Webber, Kabba, Quinn, Geary etc never showed the slightest bit of intelligent movement or ball control. And if we go further back to the likes of Brown, McCall and Ndlovu.........well, proper hoofers they were, weren't they? Never created anything.

And even further back, Deane and Agana couldn't control a ball or score a goal if it was handed to them on a plate. And that Glynn Hodges. Real donkey he was.

Good job we got Weir to put a stop to all that.

If that was 'proper football' under DW you can keep it!

 

[brownie4583]

Here we go! It's started. Exactly as I predicted.

The Hoofers want one of their own at all costs. They cover their ears when every person in authority at SUFC confirms that we are going to play proper football and pretend it hasn't been said.

They will die in the trenches before they will knowingly allow our players to pass the ball to each other.

They will fight tooth and nail against ball control, intelligent movement and possession. Why do such things when you can launch it aimlessly forward and make the game a continuous succession of 50/50 balls, just like we used to do as kids in the playground?

They are desperate to install a monothought non-achiever such as Muckanettles but only as a poor substitute for their spiritual heroes Semipro, Quickfix or the great guru himself. Anyone but a footballing manager. None of your fancy stuff here, lad. This is s2, the kingdom of kick and rush.

The game's afoot:
Follow your spirit, and upon this charge Cry 'God for Hoofball, England, and Saint Kev!'

Henry V

It is a fallacy that United under Bassett/Warnock just booted long 50-60 yard long aimless balls all the time,this usually coming from Pigs or the press!
A large majority of the goals came from good wide play and good crosses into the box(Ndlovu,Bradshaw,Bryson,Carr,Roberts etc).
We have in my opinion,never replaced Brownie in the middle of the park.
Opposing teams used to dread coming to fortress BDTBL in the past when these 2 were in charge.
I have been watching United since 1973 and 1989-1995 and 2002-2006 were the most exciting and memorable periods for me personally as a Blade since relegation from Division 1 in 1976.
So if you class their style as hoofball i would take that every time.

 

[Deadly_D'Jaffo]

It is a fallacy that United under Bassett/Warnock just booted long 50-60 yard long aimless balls all the time,this usually coming from Pigs or the press!

It's also a fallacy that football under Weir was misunderstood, underappreciated, purist artistry. The games against Preston and Crawley often resorted to players being that clueless to their roles they often resorted to 'hoofball'. Eye pleasing 'pass and move' isn't mutually exclusive to direct and exciting attacking football, just ask a Southampton or Everton fan about now...

 

[kop_blade9]

You appear to be the only one covering their ears around here while you throw your teddy's out of the pram.
If you open your blinkered eyes then you would see that we have created more chances in the last two games than we have all season.
The object of the game is to score goals. To score goals you have to create chances. David Wier was too interested in possession football to the detriment of creating goal scoring opportunities. Hence the position we are in. I do not care whether they pass it short or pass it long as long as they create chances, score more goals than the opposition and win.
If you watched the England game last Tuesday you would have seen long and short passes and the key to winning, mix it up and create chances.

 

[Pinchy]

Yet again I remind you:
1. I have never criticised long passes, only aimless hoofs. They are chalk and cheese.
2. Keeping possession is better than voluntarily surrendering possession.
3. I have been watching football for a very long time. Don't tell me that an obvious truth is a fallacy. You simply make yourself look silly.
4. Sheffield United have, beyond a shadow of a doubt, some of the most primitive, parochial, prehistoric 'supporters' in the world. It is embarrassing
5. You Hoof. You deserve Hoof. Please take it elsewhere and let our team develop into a proper football team, as any sensible person would wish.

 

[alcoblade]

Yet again I remind you:
1. I have never criticised long passes, only aimless hoofs. They are chalk and cheese.
2. Keeping possession is better than voluntarily surrendering possession.
3. I have been watching football for a very long time. Don't tell me that an obvious truth is a fallacy. You simply make yourself look silly.
4. Sheffield United have, beyond a shadow of a doubt, some of the most primitive, parochial, prehistoric 'supporters' in the world. It is embarrassing
5. You Hoof. You deserve Hoof. Please take it elsewhere and let our team develop into a proper football team, as any sensible person would wish.

6. You talk shite.

 

[Pinchy]

6. You talk shite.

Happily, for once on my life, the shite (a love for proper football) is shared by those running our club.

I can almost feel the frustration as that precious prehistoric anti-football is slipping away. Why not watch Port Vale in future? They 'played' your sort of stuff today. Horrible, it was.

 

[alcoblade]

Happily, for once on my life, the shite (a love for proper football) is shared by those running our club.

I can almost feel the frustration as that precious prehistoric anti-football is slipping away. Why not watch Port Vale in future? They 'played' your sort of stuff today. Horrible, it was.

What on earth are you talking about? 13 games of your non football has put us 30 places above Nuneaton Borough.

We make a change in management to someone who knows what the game is about (scoring goals) and you can see an immediate turn around.

There is only you, and a mere handful of others, who want us to be defined by wanting to be Swansea. The rest of the football world just get on with whatever they have to do, playing to their strengths and making the absolute best of whatever is on offer.

Bassett, Warnock and Blackwell have scarred your mind (though you might notice that 2 of those 3 will top the best manager in the last 25 years poll and it could have been the last 40). So much so that you think the only cure is the polar opposite.

The only thing slipping away is your sanity.

UTB

 

[Pinchy]

dont want him.dont like him.

Don't want football; Don't like football.

 

[gavtheblade]

Don't want football; Don't like football.

i like football-dont like negativity.
Hoof???

 

[alcoblade]

Don't want football; Don't like football.

No, if it's the football that had delivered 1 promotion, from division 6, in 15 times of asking, we don't want it. Why do you?

UTB

 

[Pinchy]

What on earth are you talking about? 13 games of your non football has put us 30 places above Nuneaton Borough.

We make a change in management to someone who knows what the game is about (scoring goals) and you can see an immediate turn around.

There is only you, and a mere handful of others, who want us to be defined by wanting to be Swansea. The rest of the football world just get on with whatever they have to do, playing to their strengths and making the absolute best of whatever is on offer.

Bassett, Warnock and Backwell have scarred your mind (though you might notice that 2 of those 3 will top the best manager in the last 25 years poll). So much so that you think the only cure is the polar opposite.

The only thing slipping away is your sanity.

UTB

You'll find out how much Muckanettles knows if and when he ever gets a managerial post. I doubt he ever will. His knowledge has done precious little for our U-21 team and have you forgotten his underwhelming spell last season?

I suspect England international and experienced Championship manager Nigel Clough knows a good deal more about what the game is about than a half-decent but rather basic Centre-Half from Barnsley. I appreciate the thought of a United team passing the ball to each other is an unsettling one for you Hoofers, but there's always those Wimbledon videos (Betamax of course) to pass the long winter nights.

Only a member of the Hoofwaffe could suggest it's a bad thing to want to emulate Premier League, trophy-winning Swansea.

I am, of course, in a minority in 19th century S2. Luckily, I share my lunacy with the rest of the football world and, more particularly, those who control our football club. That's what really rattles you Hoofers. Perhaps you could set up FC Jurassic of Sheffield as a protest and leave the Blades to those of us who want to be proud of a team that plays football the right way. I can think of many fine managers you might want to appoint.

Kick it long; Kick it Hard; Kick it High.

 

[alcoblade]

You'll find out how much Muckanettles knows if and when he ever gets a managerial post. I doubt he ever will. His knowledge has done precious little for our U-21 team and have you forgotten his underwhelming spell last season?

I suspect England international and experienced Championship manager Nigel Clough knows a good deal more about what the game is about than a half-decent but rather basic Centre-Half from Barnsley. I appreciate the thought of a United team passing the ball to each other is an unsettling one for you Hoofers, but there's always those Wimbledon videos (Betamax of course) to pass the long winter nights.

Only a member of the Hoofwaffe could suggest it's a bad thing to want to emulate Premier League, trophy-winning Swansea.

I am, of course, in a minority in 19th century S2. Luckily, I share my lunacy with the rest of the football world and, more particularly, those who control our football club. That's what really rattles you Hoofers. Perhaps you could set up FC Jurassic of Sheffield as a protest and leave the Blades to those of us who want to be proud of a team that plays football the right way. I can think of many fine managers you might want to appoint.

Kick it long; Kick it Hard; Kick it High.

More inane rambling from someone who has lost the plot. I've suggested Morgan keeps the job until a decent manager becomes available. Now, it's up to you to explain why one division 6 promotion in 15 times of asking is the mark of a decent manager.

Go on, try, without your usual clap trap.........

UTB

 

[kop_blade9]

Yet again I remind you:
1. I have never criticised long passes, only aimless hoofs. They are chalk and cheese.

So now you make a distinction between a long pass that does not reach the intended teammate and the long pass that does reach the team mate.

Please tell me your name for a short pass that does not reach a teammate.

you are like the violin player on the titanic. as long as the music sounds good you don't care if the ship goes down.

 

[Pinchy]

As you have clearly evidenced that you cannot distinguish a precisely-delivered long pass to a team-mate [Currie; Hoddle] from an aimless punt in the general direction of the other end of the pitch [Kozluk; Montgomery], I fear there is no more I can do for you.

Have you tried Tug-O-War? I have a feeling it might suit you better than football.

 

[alcoblade]

As you have clearly evidenced that you cannot distinguish a precisely-delivered long pass to a team-mate [Currie; Hoddle] from an aimless punt in the general direction of the other end of the pitch [Kozluk; Montgomery], I fear there is no more I can do for you.

Have you tried Tug-O-War? I have a feeling it might suit you better than football.

I see you cannot answer why 1 division 6 promotion in 15 years qualifies Clough for the job?

UTB

 

[kop_blade9]

As you have clearly evidenced that you cannot distinguish a precisely-delivered long pass to a team-mate [Currie; Hoddle] from an aimless punt in the general direction of the other end of the pitch [Kozluk; Montgomery], I fear there is no more I can do for you.

Have you tried Tug-O-War? I have a feeling it might suit you better than football.

Keep playing the violin
its all you know

 

[Pinchy]

I see you cannot answer why 1 division 6 promotion in 15 years qualifies Clough for the job?

UTB

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/N...y.html#axzz2iBr52rOT?39998078&redirected=true

 

[alcoblade]

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/N...y.html#axzz2iBr52rOT?39998078&redirected=true

Yep, forget promotions (or lack of any), a few fans were pissed off when he was sacked. I'm surprised he's not at Real Madrid with such a CV. Don't look at the facts, ask Jean Hemingway from Ilkeston?

You just don't quite get this "winning" thing, do you?

UTB

 

[Pinchy]

Yep, forget promotions (or lack of any), a few fans were pissed off when he was sacked. I'm surprised he's not at Real Madrid with such a CV. Don't look at the facts, ask Jean Hemingway from Ilkeston?

You just don't quite get this "winning" thing, do you?

UTB

Yes. I favour pass and move football. It wins matches and trophies. Do you think your mate Muckanettles has a winning record at either U-21 or first team level?

You don't quite get this 'football' thing, do you?

 

[alcoblade]

Yes. I favour pass and move football. It wins matches and trophies.

So, after 6% Davey's version, explain what's gone wrong for Clough's version in the last FIFTEEN years then?


UTB

 

[BladeFisher]

http://www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk/N...y.html#axzz2iBr52rOT?39998078&redirected=true

Managerial comparisons all games managed.

Manager W D L Games Win % pts/game
Weir 1 2 10 13 7.69% 0.38
Morgan 3 2 4 9 33.33% 1.22


Weir's stats include a drawn game in the JPT that was a match win.

At this rate then Morgan has produced results about 4 times better than Weir. When we get points for passing it aimlessly round the defence then I think Weir's record will improve. Until then most of the 18k crowd there today and those of us exiles would on balance say Morgan is the more effective manager.

I don't hear many commentators today saying "More disapppointment for fans of Sheffield United after they saw their team win but completed fewer passes in the process. Sadly this means there is now a greater chance that they will lose their battle to be relegated. One fan was devestated. This is ugly football. It was much better under Weir". Wasn't you by chance?

 

[alcoblade]

To ease the pressure of Pinchy, I think we should ask him to make some more realistic arguments than the nonsense he's been left defending.

Let's start with the Pope not being Catholic...............

 

[oldblade]

Yet again I remind you:
1. I have never criticised long passes, only aimless hoofs. They are chalk and cheese.
2. Keeping possession is better than voluntarily surrendering possession.
3. I have been watching football for a very long time. Don't tell me that an obvious truth is a fallacy. You simply make yourself look silly.
4. Sheffield United have, beyond a shadow of a doubt, some of the most primitive, parochial, prehistoric 'supporters' in the world. It is embarrassing
5. You Hoof. You deserve Hoof. Please take it elsewhere and let our team develop into a proper football team, as any sensible person would wish.

And you are probably the best example of being one of the most embarrassing supporters of Sheffield United. If indeed you do actually support us.

 

[WhiteHawk]

You have to admit, we were wank today. I mean, we didn't pass the ball 2,750 times. Yeh we won but that's irrelevant, what's more important is that we bore everyone to death by just going for the tippy tippy bollocks in our own half.