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By Xmas, we will have played 21 gamed. If we continue gathering points at the current rate, we will then have 11 points by then, meaning we would then need more or less automatic promotion form to avoid relegation.

I wouldn't risk it.
 



I have a feeling anything other than a win against cov will see the trigger pulled.
 
I have a feeling anything other than a win against cov will see the trigger pulled.

I think a draw will see him given a stay of execution as that can be convincingly potrayed as a good result (given our run of 7 straight away defeats) and a turning the corner etc etc.
 
I think a draw will see him given a stay of execution as that can be convincingly potrayed as a good result (given our run of 7 straight away defeats) and a turning the corner etc etc.


Possibly although i think the board may refer back to our result (& encouraging performance friday) followed by a reversal & back to square 1 in the next match.
 
By Xmas, we will have played 21 gamed. If we continue gathering points at the current rate, we will then have 11 points by then, meaning we would then need more or less automatic promotion form to avoid relegation.

I wouldn't risk it.
It would be "scraping into top 6 form" not automatic promotion form.

But I agree with you, we can't let it drift.

I would now give him a target of 1.5 points per game as the "firing position"

That's if they give him the Coventry game.

There are no more excuses for management or players. Those are the bare minimum figures or you are out.
 
It would be "scraping into top 6 form" not automatic promotion form.

But I agree with you, we can't let it drift.

I would now give him a target of 1.5 points per game as the "firing position"

That's if they give him the Coventry game.

There are no more excuses for management or players. Those are the bare minimum figures or you are out.

Sorry, bad maths - we would need 39 points from 25 games to get to a national 50 points safety mark - so yes, "scraping in the play offs" form.
 
Port Vale at home beckons....................

After Vale and then Peterborough away, we have a reasonable run of games, all about getting a win and some confidence. Whether the Board think we can do it under Weir, or more importantly afford to take the chance that we don't is the key question.

I'm amazed he wasn't pushed last night but given that they haven't moved yet, could mean he has another few weeks.
 
Port Vale at home beckons....................

After Vale and then Peterborough away, we have a reasonable run of games, all about getting a win and some confidence. Whether the Board think we can do it under Weir, or more importantly afford to take the chance that we don't is the key question.

I'm amazed he wasn't pushed last night but given that they haven't moved yet, could mean he has another few weeks.

Or his replacement hasnt said yes yet. PLEASE LET ME BE RIGHT :)
 
Sorry, bad maths - we would need 39 points from 25 games to get to a national 50 points safety mark - so yes, "scraping in the play offs" form.

I think 53 is a minimum when four teams get relegated. So play-off form. :)
 
In terms of long term damage it's already happening.

Very depressing conversation with a colleague at work. He's from Sunderland and supports them but both his lads (early teens) grew up Blades. They've told him they can't be bothered any more. Can't face it.

It must be happening a fair bit. I imagine there's a spike in the sales of Manure\Citeh\Arsenal\Liverpool shirts in Sheff at the moment.
 



By Xmas, we will have played 21 gamed. If we continue gathering points at the current rate, we will then have 11 points by then, meaning we would then need more or less automatic promotion form to avoid relegation.

I wouldn't risk it.

Not sure about this. Us, Tranmere and Stevenage have 5 points and therefore a projected points tally of 23 for the season. Crewe and Bristol have 6 points and therefore projected 28 points. Notts County 7 points and therefore 32 points projected. Even Shrewsbury in 15th position have a trajectory of 42 points, which would have seen them relgeated in any of the last 20 seasons.

Small sample sizes are throwing things out too much. 10 games is not enough for an accurate projection.

Looking back over the years 44 points is the lowest that someone could have stayed up with, though in some years a whopping 55 is was needed to stay up. The magic number (depending on whether you look at mean, median or mode) seems to be in the late 40's though.
 
Given that Coventry have scored 13 goals in their 5 "home" games so far and we've only scored 7 goals all fooking season in all competitions, i think it's safe to say he's in trouble if he needs to get a win!

Coventry at home average goals per game: 2.6
Sheff Utd all games goals per game: 0.5
Sheff Utd away goals per game: 0.4

Good luck Mr Weir!
 
Sorry, bad maths - we would need 39 points from 25 games to get to a national 50 points safety mark - so yes, "scraping in the play offs" form.

4 to go down though Darren; nearer 52 or 53 maybe?

Not a lot of difference but it might seem like a yawning chasm in April
 

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