CONFIRMED Will Osula sold to Newcastle United

[SouthStandGBlock]

I'll be sorry to see him go, as I was looking forward to watching him develop. He has pace, strength and good positional sense. I think there's a good player in there. What he doesn't seem to get is goals.

It's a gamble for Newcastle.

At £10m+, I think the odds fall in our favour, and I'd take this if I were running the club.

We need at least two experienced strikers if Osula leaves. We have Moore and Brewster at the moment, plus Marsh and One. Going into a season with just 4 strikers is dangerous, especially as Brewster is injury prone and the other two are young lads.

Shift Souza on, and we should have achieved the clear out we need, and we can bring in the players we need. A GK, CB and 2 strikers.

We can sell Anel in January.

 

[petcharlie]

Think what this does as well is helps in some way to push the price up for some other players in our squad.

£25m for example for souza doesn't seem as far fetched when you think he played a lot more minutes than Osula last year and had more of an impact (if you just look at stats and not his average performances).

Certainly strengthens our hand were Fulham to come knocking again if we can show what a team in the same league paid for a 20 year old with only 2 league goals in nearly 50 appearances compared to one of the best ball winners in the prem (again based solely on stats).

£25m might look quite reasonable to them on that basis.

hope you are right

 

[SouthStandGBlock]

And Grbic.

How we ended up with him I'll never know. Stevie Wonder must have scouted him, and have been wearing ear defenders when he watched the games.

 

[petcharlie]

I'll never get over how bad some of them were like Larouci! Southampton have just paid 7 million for BBD who was far more of a asset to us than Osula was

That's a good point ,Me to would prefer BBD to Osula .That deal would be welcomed by most blades ,selling Osula for 15 and buying BBD for 7 but of course that's not now possible .

 

[Rodley]

That's a good point ,Me to would prefer BBD to Osula .That deal would be welcomed by most blades ,selling Osula for 15 and buying BBD for 7 but of course that's not now possible .

Wages.

 

[Weasel]

That's a good point ,Me to would prefer BBD to Osula .That deal would be welcomed by most blades ,selling Osula for 15 and buying BBD for 7 but of course that's not now possible .

It was never really an option to bring I'm BBD as we are no longer in the PL. He and his agent knew he could get a contract with someone at a club at the top table. They were right. If you just look simplistically at the fees for Osula and BBD, yes you can say we should have at least used the Osula money to bring in BBD.... but the lad didn't want to sign for us as we aren't in the PL. Only if it was late in the transfer window and no one had been in for him (I.e Southampton) would we have had a chance. That's the reality of the situation.

 

[Weasel]

And Grbic.

How we ended up with him I'll never know. Stevie Wonder must have scouted him, and have been wearing ear defenders when he watched the games.

It would be interesting to find out who recommended and pushed for signing Grbic. There should be accountability for ridiculous mistakes which will probably cost the club millions of £ (the full financial package involved). If it was someone in the owners employment they should be fired. Clearly he was a player pushed onto us and wasn't a player the SUFC recruitment team knew about. Someone has been playing real life Champ Manager with our precious money and they should be called out for it. Ridiculous signing (especially when we only needed a cheap loan at best for a few months before we looked again, this summer).

 

[Melbourne Blade]

Trying to be a voice of reason - selling him points to underlying financial issues and not just opportunistically "cashing in" on an academy player.

Betty did say we'd need to make up a 10-15m shortfall if relegated so maybe this is it.

I'd rather keep him (potential) but understand the sale if we're fucked financially.

 

[SouthStandGBlock]

It would be interesting to find out who recommended and pushed for signing Grbic. There should be accountability for ridiculous mistakes which will probably cost the club millions of £ (the full financial package involved). If it was someone in the owners employment they should be fired. Clearly he was a player pushed onto us and wasn't a player the SUFC recruitment team knew about. Someone has been playing real life Champ Manager with our precious money and they should be called out for it. Ridiculous signing (especially when we only needed a cheap loan at best for a few months before we looked again, this summer).

100% agree. A major bollock was dropped here. He is without doubt, the worst Utd goalkeeper I've ever seen. I thought Olsen was shit, but this bloke is unbelievably bad.

 

[Ldn_Rd_Blades]

Trying to be a voice of reason - selling him points to underlying financial issues and not just opportunistically "cashing in" on an academy player.

Betty did say we'd need to make up a 10-15m shortfall if relegated so maybe this is it.

I'd rather keep him (potential) but understand the sale if we're fucked financially.

 

[Weasel]

Not sure the decision to sell Osula is driven by club operating costs needing to be serviced. The Bogle money has gone to help that out and whilst we are still short, I think the club can operate fine with things as it stands and will live with any shortfall pending another sale at some point in the future (Souza going would probably see funds going onto the club operating pot).

I think the Osula funds are more to do with giving CW some wiggle room to wheel and deal and bring more in as the players pot (loans and frees aside) had run dry. The Traore sale funded Burrows. I think this is totally a CW decision and not the Owners.

 

[Weasel]

100% agree. A major bollock was dropped here. He is without doubt, the worst Utd goalkeeper I've ever seen. I thought Olsen was shit, but this bloke is unbelievably bad.

I suspect the same Champ Manager playing genius who recommended Olsen (as well as a few more duds like Coulibaly) will be behind the Grbic purchase. Clearly non if these players were the idea of the manager or the club recruitment team at the time and were 'pushed' onto the club. Someone involved with United World should be told to fuck off pronto.

 

[Bookers Mullet]

It would be interesting to find out who recommended and pushed for signing Grbic. There should be accountability for ridiculous mistakes which will probably cost the club millions of £ (the full financial package involved). If it was someone in the owners employment they should be fired. Clearly he was a player pushed onto us and wasn't a player the SUFC recruitment team knew about. Someone has been playing real life Champ Manager with our precious money and they should be called out for it. Ridiculous signing (especially when we only needed a cheap loan at best for a few months before we looked again, this summer).

He'll at least be on the bench v Preston, shows how much of a shit sandwich this pre season has been

 

[YES Blade]

That's a good point ,Me to would prefer BBD to Osula .That deal would be welcomed by most blades ,selling Osula for 15 and buying BBD for 7 but of course that's not now possible .

That does put it into some context, if someone had said at the start of the summer that BBD would be sold for £7m and Osula for £10m plus add ons, we’d have all laughed and said there is no chance.

 

[ancientblade]

i suspect if we had sold souza or anel osula would have stayed but it is what it is and although dissapointing to have to let him go it should at least get us cooper and at least 3 loan signings for areas that are badly needed

 

[Pintor75]

Glttl, but I think it's a good deal £10m with potential £5m add ons, he's still got a long way to go and could make a decent player, but we need to spend the money wisely on a proven scorer or keeper atm

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

I don’t want to lose Osula, but his value with either double or half within the next 2/3 years based on his age (21). He’s played nearly 50 games in the league and scored 2 goals.

I’d love us to be in a position to gamble on his future but we can’t. Yes he’s looked good against York & Chesterfield but so he should. I agree with most on here I think he’d have been effective as a LW in the championship. His raw pace is something we need to replace.

But right now £10-15m for an unproven striker is probably good business providing we use that money to strengthen & quickly.

If I was a Newcastle fan who probably had hopes of European football I’m not sure I’d be thrilled with this signing. He didn’t look like scoring last season, I know we were rubbish but Archer, McBurnie & Diaz still managed to grab a few goals

 

[Weasel]

All depends on what we do with the money.

If it gets spent well and we we bring in a few permanent players of decent quality and some good loans in addition then generally, the fans will soon forget about Osula (though it will be a sore one for some for a while - I get that, but we don't live in an ideal world).

Alternatively, we spend it or on poor signings and the fans will be rightfully pissed off for a while.

I'm backing CW to get it right.

 

[AnstonBlade1]

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[Millhousesblade1889]

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Good luck to him, for our financial benefit I hope he succeeds

 

[VEGASBLADE]

It would be interesting to find out who recommended and pushed for signing Grbic. There should be accountability for ridiculous mistakes which will probably cost the club millions of £ (the full financial package involved). If it was someone in the owners employment they should be fired. Clearly he was a player pushed onto us and wasn't a player the SUFC recruitment team knew about. Someone has been playing real life Champ Manager with our precious money and they should be called out for it. Ridiculous signing (especially when we only needed a cheap loan at best for a few months before we looked again, this summer).

MATT DUKE

 

[Berkshire Blade]

100% agree. A major bollock was dropped here. He is without doubt, the worst Utd goalkeeper I've ever seen. I thought Olsen was shit, but this bloke is unbelievably bad.

Verrips was so bad he only got one game.

 

[JackSUFC]

He’ll be back out on loan to the Championship by January.

 

[Wards]

I'll never get over how bad some of them were like Larouci! Southampton have just paid 7 million for BBD who was far more of a asset to us than Osula was

That's a good point ,Me to would prefer BBD to Osula .That deal would be welcomed by most blades ,selling Osula for 15 and buying BBD for 7 but of course that's not now possible .

That does put it into some context, if someone had said at the start of the summer that BBD would be sold for £7m and Osula for £10m plus add ons, we’d have all laughed and said there is no chance.

I don't think BBD and Osula are comparable right now. Osula's ceiling is way higher than BBD and as much as I liked BBD he'll likely never be more than bottom half PL standard.

Newcastle are paying for potential and not a lot else right now. I genuinely feel he has everything to be a top end PL player in 3 or 4 years time.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

If the initial fee is 10 million, we won't actually get that much of it up front. Most transfer deals are done via amortization, so we'll probably only get 1/7th or 1/8th of the 10 million fee. Maybe even less. We couldn't really invest 3-4 million in a keeper, and 6 million on 2 new defenders because we wouldn't have the money to do so.

I suppose we could also use amortization to fund our transfers, but depending on payment structures, that may not be completely viable. Many lower end Prem clubs and EFL clubs often sharply defer their payments. They may spend 15 million on a player, pay 2.5 million over the first five years and then 12.5 million over the final 2-4 years. That's not financially viable, and I wouldn't want us to do that.

Aye
But doesn’t that ‘logic’ (sic) equally apply to any purchase(s) we make ?

 

[bertieblade]

No one knows the terms of the contract each one of which is individual dependent upon circumstances, for all we know they have paid all up front and we have negotiated stage payments for our purchases which helps our cash flow.

 

[Billyblade]

100% agree. A major bollock was dropped here. He is without doubt, the worst Utd goalkeeper I've ever seen. I thought Olsen was shit, but this bloke is unbelievably bad.

 

[jt64]

Are you talking about Osula?

I am clearly not comparing Osula to Ndiaye directly (and it's flabbergasting that's what people are interpreting me as doing). I am comparing his worth to the club compared to what would be gained by selling. Selling Ndiaye was a mistake, selling Osula would be a mistake for the same reasons.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

I can’t remember much of an impact anyone made last season, tbh. Not a positive one anyway.

Aye
Except Holgate on Mitoma ?

 

[PrestwichBlade]

I am clearly not comparing Osula to Ndiaye directly (and it's flabbergasting that's what people are interpreting me as doing). I am comparing his worth to the club compared to what would be gained by selling. Selling Ndiaye was a mistake, selling Osula would be a mistake for the same reasons.

Cheers, appreciate you adding some meat to the bones . I don't agree with you, but all opinions isn't it?!