CONFIRMED Michael Cooper signs for the Blades

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Might be why they’ve been linked to Cooper, still not sure why he’d go there unless he was going to be first choice though (apart from money ofc)
 
NateDogg said:
For what it's worth I think you're right. I don't think we'll sign him today. Really good keepers are few and far between and I'm surprised he's not attracting more interest, especially given he's English as well. He'd be an absolute bargain for the figure we'd likely get him for.

Until this week I thought we'd got no chance with this lad but given we pushed the boat out for O'Hare I'm thinking maybe it's possible. For me it'll depend if we can get him before anyone else realises he's a steal.

However, I do hope we're both wrong and he does sign today.
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The fact nobody else realises he's a steal suggests he's not. Scounting networks are extensive and every single top 40 club in this country knows about this boy and his potential. He's not undiscovered. That's not to say he won't be a brilliant keeper but thay Plymouth will get what's he's worth
 
FriethBlade said:
The fact nobody else realises he's a steal suggests he's not. Scounting networks are extensive and every single top 40 club in this country knows about this boy and his potential. He's not undiscovered. That's not to say he won't be a brilliant keeper but thay Plymouth will get what's he's worth
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I will take a guess that he'll go elsewhere for under £3m and then by next summer he'll be attracting premier league interest for 5 times that. I'd say right now he's probably worth more than £3m but given his contract situation nobody will pay what he's actually worth.
 
originaltrueblade said:
We sign Cooper and in three years time he’ll be worth £30M
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Reminds me of the "we sign Brewster for £25M and in 3 years time he's almost guaranteed to be worth £60M".

"For once in your life Sheff Utd need to show some ambition, pay Liverpool the £25 million asking price before Palace nip in for him
and pay Brewster what ever he wants".

Saw the above type of comment several times when we were trying to buy Brewster, look how that turned out.
Loads replied there's no chance we'll buy Brewster because they said the Prince was tight and they said Sheff Utd always lack ambition.

However agree that Cooper does seem a no brainer of a buy, especially as we're lacking in the goalie department.
 
Sheffsteel said:
Reminds me of the "we sign Brewster for £25M and in 3 years time he's almost guaranteed to be worth £60M".

"For once in your life Sheff Utd need to show some ambition, pay Liverpool the £25 million asking price before Palace nip in for him
and pay Brewster what ever he wants".

Saw the above type of comment several times when we were trying to buy Brewster, look how that turned out.
Loads replied there's no chance we'll buy Brewster because they said the Prince was tight and they said Sheff Utd always lack ambition.

However agree that Cooper does seem a no brainer of a buy, especially as we're lacking in the goalie department.
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Rooney says, unless somebody stumps up an offer they can't turn down, Cooper's here next season.
 
TJ blade said:
Rooney says, unless somebody stumps up an offer they can't turn down, Cooper's here next season.
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We’ve said much the same down the years in fact most summers I can remember.
 

Sheffsteel said:
Reminds me of the "we sign Brewster for £25M and in 3 years time he's almost guaranteed to be worth £60M".

"For once in your life Sheff Utd need to show some ambition, pay Liverpool the £25 million asking price before Palace nip in for him
and pay Brewster what ever he wants".

Saw the above type of comment several times when we were trying to buy Brewster, look how that turned out.
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Poster is shocked to see that the lower end of possible outcomes of a transfer happens sometimes
 
Yogi said:
We’ve said much the same down the years in fact most summers I can remember.
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Also what's an offer they can't turn down? Obviously with him being in his final year thye may feel that they can't refuse a reasonably low offer rather than him go on a free. It's similar to us with Bogle isn't it. I don't want to lose him for £4m but the people making the decisions might think that's better than losing him for nothing.
 
NateDogg said:
Also what's an offer they can't turn down? Obviously with him being in his final year thye may feel that they can't refuse a reasonably low offer rather than him go on a free. It's similar to us with Bogle isn't it. I don't want to lose him for £4m but the people making the decisions might think that's better than losing him for nothing.
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Yep that’s normally where clubs end up in September justifying a lower than expected fee for a player that they’d ultimately rather not have lost. Ndiaye is a terrific example.
 
jt64 said:
When the amount offered is greater than the value they think Cooper adds this season.
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I'm just considering what that figure may be though. Obviously nobody knows for sure but his actual value isn't really as relevant in these situations.

Most on here thought Ndiaye was worth at least £40m but we got probably less than half that due to the exact same scenario.

He's a young English keeper who has impressed. I'd say he's in demand but does he want to go to Palace and sit on the bench? Surely we're a more attractive prospect than Coventry so all I'm saying is everyone takes advantage of this when our players are in the last year of their contracts so let's us do it with someone else.
 
Sheffsteel said:
Reminds me of the "we sign Brewster for £25M and in 3 years time he's almost guaranteed to be worth £60M".

"For once in your life Sheff Utd need to show some ambition, pay Liverpool the £25 million asking price before Palace nip in for him
and pay Brewster what ever he wants".

Saw the above type of comment several times when we were trying to buy Brewster, look how that turned out.
Loads replied there's no chance we'll buy Brewster because they said the Prince was tight and they said Sheff Utd always lack ambition.

However agree that Cooper does seem a no brainer of a buy, especially as we're lacking in the goalie department.
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Wendies use pigonomics we use idiotics 🤣
 
originaltrueblade said:
We sign Cooper and in three years time he’ll be worth £30M
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OR, he's just a good shot-stopper who's only really proven himself at L1 level, is coming back from a serious injury, but who has potential.
I'd like us to sign him, but let's not paint this up to be a no-brainer when there are young keepers available on loan from PL sides who are probably at a similar level and risk profile. It's likely to be a significant outlay, as with Burrows with potential high reward, but like Brewster there is a significant risk to go with that outlay.
 
NateDogg said:
I'm just considering what that figure may be though. Obviously nobody knows for sure but his actual value isn't really as relevant in these situations.
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I'm not talking about what a player's market value would be in a perfect world where they're contracted until 2029 - I am talking about what he is worth to Plymouth for 24/25. For their purposes, this would be working out the difference in expected revenue in the Championship and League 1 in 25/26, estimating the percentage of the time they stay up with Cooper in the squad as opposed to being relegated if he isn't, and multiplying the two together. Selling for less than that figure out of desperation and wanting to reduce variance (which, as you mentioned Ndiaye, is exactly what we did in his case) directly loses money.
 
jt64 said:
I'm not talking about what a player's market value would be in a perfect world where they're contracted until 2029 - I am talking about what he is worth to Plymouth for 24/25. For their purposes, this would be working out the difference in expected revenue in the Championship and League 1 in 25/26, estimating the percentage of the time they stay up with Cooper in the squad as opposed to being relegated if he isn't, and multiplying the two together. Selling for less than that figure out of desperation and wanting to reduce variance (which, as you mentioned Ndiaye, is exactly what we did in his case) directly loses money.
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Not disagreeing with you whatsoever but what I believe he is 'worth' to Plymouth, what you believe and what Plymouth as a club believe may be totally different figures and Rooney saying they'll only sell him for silly money means nothing if they need cash.

I just think this seems like a very good opportunity and I'll be disappointed if we miss out.
 
NateDogg said:
Not disagreeing with you whatsoever but what I believe he is 'worth' to Plymouth, what you believe and what Plymouth as a club believe may be totally different figures and Rooney saying they'll only sell him for silly money means nothing if they need cash.
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True. Clubs that sell assets for cents on the dollar because "they need cash" will typically continue to need cash afterwards
 

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