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Davalon said:
I agree that if you're finding trouble regularly, or did, then it suggests you're not trying to avoid it.

But...the idea that you only find it if you are looking is bollocks.

I'm too young to remember the 70s and was only a kid through most of the 80s. But the first time I found it was at Chesterfield in the late 80s. Me and a few mates, 15 or 16, minding our own business after getting off the 70 bus.

I've never run with the BBC or gone to a match thinking I'll get involved in bother.

However, there have been times when it's found us just for being in the wrong place and if I'm honest, a few times when I've reacted to provocation.

I guess pearl clutchers are gonna clutch though.
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Innocent parties can certainly get into trouble, there just seems to be a theme with some posters that they weren’t looking for it but it always seems to find them.

In 2 occasions out of 200+ away games I’ve found myself on the end of something, both times were outside the away end immediately after the match (Molineux and Milmoor), you either walked past the idiots and risked a smack or you stood and waited.
 



Love it lr hate it, it’s been part of footballing life for 50 years from the mob mentality to the more organised stuff to the more sporadic outbursts these days.

Ive never gone out looking for trouble but been watching our beloved team home and away since the eighties and if you’re there with your mates and you arent worried about going into the boozers then there had always been a fair to middling chance that you would find trouble whether you were looking for it or not.

Call it laddish culture or downright hooliganism, it really doesn’t matter it all comes down to the same thing.
 
JustLookin said:
Nope, I just find it interesting that you made a distinction between the old thugs and the new ones.
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The police themselves are making the distinction between old and new thugs. There have been many articles written about it recently. Particularly since covid.
 
Digs blade said:
Love it lr hate it, it’s been part of footballing life for 50 years from the mob mentality to the more organised stuff to the more sporadic outbursts these days.

Ive never gone out looking for trouble but been watching our beloved team home and away since the eighties and if you’re there with your mates and you arent worried about going into the boozers then there had always been a fair to middling chance that you would find trouble whether you were looking for it or not.

Call it laddish culture or downright hooliganism, it really doesn’t matter it all comes down to the same thing.
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It’s absolutely not the same thing.
 
Bert said:
Bert was in attendance, he recalls a snooker ball (white) being chucked at us.
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Help me out here please Blades.
Snooker balls being thrown takes me back to a cup match, away at Arsenal. I think we were in Div 4 so would have been 81/82. We must have drawn at the lane so the replay was at Highbury mid week. We went on an away day British rail special from Midland station. Plod was on the train with us. One even joined in a card game.
Pre match inside Highbury with loads of blades in away end ,a phalanx of Gunners charged down the terrace towards us, intent on a scuffle or two, only to be repelled by about a dozen of the Mets finests, armed with truncheons, who beat the fuck out of the Gunners mob and made them retreat to where they came from. During the chaos a snooker ball, (again white) was launched from amid the blades faithful. It hit one of the rampaging gunners on the head so hard it bounced off the terrace and landed half way into the pitch.
The Blades performed really well that night and took Arsenal to extra time only to lose one nil. It's in my mind that the player who scored was called Sword. The headline the next day being Blades put to the Sword.

Have I imagined this? Anyone else remember it?

I do remember all of us who were on the train special had a police escort back to the train station cause there was so much bother on the streets that night.
As we got back into the Midland Station in the early hours of that morning and were crossing the road back to our car , the team coach drove past us all on their way back to the lane.
 
djbaldken said:
Help me out here please Blades.
Snooker balls being thrown takes me back to a cup match, away at Arsenal. I think we were in Div 4 so would have been 81/82. We must have drawn at the lane so the replay was at Highbury mid week. We went on an away day British rail special from Midland station. Plod was on the train with us. One even joined in a card game.
Pre match inside Highbury with loads of blades in away end ,a phalanx of Gunners charged down the terrace towards us, intent on a scuffle or two, only to be repelled by about a dozen of the Mets finests, armed with truncheons, who beat the fuck out of the Gunners mob and made them retreat to where they came from. During the chaos a snooker ball, (again white) was launched from amid the blades faithful. It hit one of the rampaging gunners on the head so hard it bounced off the terrace and landed half way into the pitch.
The Blades performed really well that night and took Arsenal to extra time only to lose one nil. It's in my mind that the player who scored was called Sword. The headline the next day being Blades put to the Sword.

Have I imagined this? Anyone else remember it?

I do remember all of us who were on the train special had a police escort back to the train station cause there was so much bother on the streets that night.
As we got back into the Midland Station in the early hours of that morning and were crossing the road back to our car , the team coach drove past us all on their way back to the lane.
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Was there but don’t recall the fighting, then again I was only 10 years old.

It wasnt t a replay, it was a 2 legged league cup game. We beat them in the first leg at the lane 1 0 but went out 2 1 in extra time. Cant remember the arsenal scorers but pretty sure they didn’t have anyone of that name
 
djbaldken said:
Help me out here please Blades.
Snooker balls being thrown takes me back to a cup match, away at Arsenal. I think we were in Div 4 so would have been 81/82. We must have drawn at the lane so the replay was at Highbury mid week. We went on an away day British rail special from Midland station. Plod was on the train with us. One even joined in a card game.
Pre match inside Highbury with loads of blades in away end ,a phalanx of Gunners charged down the terrace towards us, intent on a scuffle or two, only to be repelled by about a dozen of the Mets finests, armed with truncheons, who beat the fuck out of the Gunners mob and made them retreat to where they came from. During the chaos a snooker ball, (again white) was launched from amid the blades faithful. It hit one of the rampaging gunners on the head so hard it bounced off the terrace and landed half way into the pitch.
The Blades performed really well that night and took Arsenal to extra time only to lose one nil. It's in my mind that the player who scored was called Sword. The headline the next day being Blades put to the Sword.

Have I imagined this? Anyone else remember it?

I do remember all of us who were on the train special had a police escort back to the train station cause there was so much bother on the streets that night.
As we got back into the Midland Station in the early hours of that morning and were crossing the road back to our car , the team coach drove past us all on their way back to the lane.
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It was quite a night out. Loads of Blades running riot outside Highbury after the full time whistle.
When Arsenal scored, a volley of snooker balls were thrown at the home fans.
The police on horseback charged the united fans who were heading back to the coaches.
Loads went off that night, before and after the game. I remember a few Blades using baseball bats that they had in their van.
We lost in extra time 2:0.
 
tyke1889 said:
www.11v11.com

Arsenal v Sheffield United, 27 October 1981

11v11 football match report for Arsenal v Sheffield United, League Cup 1982 2nd round 2nd leg, 27 October 1981
www.11v11.com
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Thanks for that.
My memory is obviously playing tricks again then. Onset Alzheimer's possibly.
But that's some team we were up against. Some quality names in that arsenal side.

I'm sure I remember a headline from somewhere saying Blades it to the Sword.
Mind you that could be from a lot of games I've watched over the last 50 years involving us.
 
I got my head kicked in a few years back at an away game. Won’t say when or where but we went to the wrong pub at the wrong time and I ended up being kicked and punched curled up in a ball after trying to fight my way out of the boozer. Most had fled up the road.

Luckily an older head stopped the lads who were booting me from all angles and let me get up. I was on my own by that point so thank god he did.

Straight back to A&E with broken ribs, cuts etc. Had to sleep sat upright for weeks.

That was fun.
 
djbaldken said:
Help me out here please Blades.
Snooker balls being thrown takes me back to a cup match, away at Arsenal. I think we were in Div 4 so would have been 81/82. We must have drawn at the lane so the replay was at Highbury mid week. We went on an away day British rail special from Midland station. Plod was on the train with us. One even joined in a card game.
Pre match inside Highbury with loads of blades in away end ,a phalanx of Gunners charged down the terrace towards us, intent on a scuffle or two, only to be repelled by about a dozen of the Mets finests, armed with truncheons, who beat the fuck out of the Gunners mob and made them retreat to where they came from. During the chaos a snooker ball, (again white) was launched from amid the blades faithful. It hit one of the rampaging gunners on the head so hard it bounced off the terrace and landed half way into the pitch.
The Blades performed really well that night and took Arsenal to extra time only to lose one nil. It's in my mind that the player who scored was called Sword. The headline the next day being Blades put to the Sword.

Have I imagined this? Anyone else remember it?

I do remember all of us who were on the train special had a police escort back to the train station cause there was so much bother on the streets that night.
As we got back into the Midland Station in the early hours of that morning and were crossing the road back to our car , the team coach drove past us all on their way back to the lane.
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It was always a white ball because they were bigger so they didn't stay down when you accidentally potted them .. so they were free ammo, as they were in the end of the table just sat there... no 20p needed..
 



Houston_Blade said:
Innocent parties can certainly get into trouble, there just seems to be a theme with some posters that they weren’t looking for it but it always seems to find them.

In 2 occasions out of 200+ away games I’ve found myself on the end of something, both times were outside the away end immediately after the match (Molineux and Milmoor), you either walked past the idiots and risked a smack or you stood and waited.
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That's fine but it's all relative.

In years gone by I've gone to away games in the car, on service buses, on the official travel club, on minibuses, on coaches from pubs, on the train etc.

Depending on method of transport, age, whether having a drink etc, has impacted where I might find myself in opposition terrority so to speak.

It's not all black and white.
 
Davalon said:
That's fine but it's all relative.

In years gone by I've gone to away games in the car, on service buses, on the official travel club, on minibuses, on coaches from pubs, on the train etc.

Depending on method of transport, age, whether having a drink etc, has impacted where I might find myself in opposition terrority so to speak.

It's not all black and white.
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I’ve mainly done trains or one of Kaz or Craig’s coaches, more recently driven to most and although some of the people on the buses and trains find bother, me and my mates don’t.
 
Houston_Blade said:
I’ve mainly done trains or one of Kaz or Craig’s coaches, more recently driven to most and although some of the people on the buses and trains find bother, me and my mates don’t.
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Funnily enough I’ve done hundreds of away games and have only encountered trouble on a handful of trips. That is despite the vast majority of away trips involving copious amounts of alcohol.

It’s rare I’ll take the train to away trips now, The last few years I’ve enjoyed it a lot more on the coaches. You never get any hassle, get to enjoy a drink on stopovers at all sorts of weird and wonderful place and I’m fairly sure that if I was one of those poor folks who attracted trouble all the time, that I wouldn’t be welcome on the coach any more.
 
djbaldken said:
Thanks for that.
My memory is obviously playing tricks again then. Onset Alzheimer's possibly.
But that's some team we were up against. Some quality names in that arsenal side.

I'm sure I remember a headline from somewhere saying Blades it to the Sword.
Mind you that could be from a lot of games I've watched over the last 50 years involving us.
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Obviously a blades/swords reference, nowt to do with Arsenal scorer.
 
djbaldken said:
Help me out here please Blades.
Snooker balls being thrown takes me back to a cup match, away at Arsenal. I think we were in Div 4 so would have been 81/82. We must have drawn at the lane so the replay was at Highbury mid week. We went on an away day British rail special from Midland station. Plod was on the train with us. One even joined in a card game.
Pre match inside Highbury with loads of blades in away end ,a phalanx of Gunners charged down the terrace towards us, intent on a scuffle or two, only to be repelled by about a dozen of the Mets finests, armed with truncheons, who beat the fuck out of the Gunners mob and made them retreat to where they came from. During the chaos a snooker ball, (again white) was launched from amid the blades faithful. It hit one of the rampaging gunners on the head so hard it bounced off the terrace and landed half way into the pitch.
The Blades performed really well that night and took Arsenal to extra time only to lose one nil. It's in my mind that the player who scored was called Sword. The headline the next day being Blades put to the Sword.

Have I imagined this? Anyone else remember it?

I do remember all of us who were on the train special had a police escort back to the train station cause there was so much bother on the streets that night.
As we got back into the Midland Station in the early hours of that morning and were crossing the road back to our car , the team coach drove past us all on their way back to the lane.
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The Sword quote will probably be about Tommy Sword scoring the goal, in a 1-0 defeat, away at Stockport. Same season and very early on. Our first defeat. Sword bundled Keith Waugh into the net and it was allowed to stand.
 
Neuschwanstein said:
It was quite a night out. Loads of Blades running riot outside Highbury after the full time whistle.
When Arsenal scored, a volley of snooker balls were thrown at the home fans.
The police on horseback charged the united fans who were heading back to the coaches.
Loads went off that night, before and after the game. I remember a few Blades using baseball bats that they had in their van.
We lost in extra time 2:0.
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Eeh dem were't days
 
BadgersBigToe said:
I can remember seeing red, white and black balls landing in the crowd…….thought to myself looks like somebodies snookered here
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PeterNdlovu081 said:
My Dad's mates once tried to cajole him into lobbing a yellow, green and brown but he baulked at the idea
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There’s always one fucker that has to tip it over the edge. 🙄
 
Valley Blade said:
The Sword quote will probably be about Tommy Sword scoring the goal, in a 1-0 defeat, away at Stockport. Same season and very early on. Our first defeat. Sword bundled Keith Waugh into the net and it was allowed to stand.
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That sounds more like it.
Thank you.
 



Snooker balls are for amateurs

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