Spiralling out of control.

[Princess Annes Dog]

Jeez what's happening to our football club? We're in a play off spot (God knows how), if we spoz a few games we could still get automatic and we bin the gaffer and replace him with an untried bloke who fancied himself as a tough guy but who never really showed that much finesse or ability to read a game, but who the chairman believes can bully the players into producing the goods and getting us up. Big gamble but it may get him an easier ride at the fans forum and no doubt that'd have been very much in his mind the cowardly scrote.

We have fans on here gazing at the stars and throwing all sorts of names around, even though the statement is that Morgan will be taking charge. We even have the ridiculous notion that the self centred, obnoxious, full of himself Neil Warnock would be good for the club. FFS, that's the craziest talk yet. Old big nose was booted last time because he failed miserably. He didn't go with dignity, he did his usual and blamed everyone bar himself, and some of you want him back? Get a grip, his days at the Lane are over thank goodness. He wasn't the messiah, he had some decent players to work with and his motivational "skills" were helped vastly by the fact that one or two of the team could play a bit. This lot can't, and with a tactical fuckwit like Warnock in charge there'd be no miracle transformation. Sorry.

Does anyone at the club know what's happening? Does the chairman have a master plan? Will Morgs be the manager come next season? Is there another name in the frame? I think this is McCabes last throw of the dice. If we don't go up I doubt there'll be any investment, we'll sell owt we've got and we'll be in bigger bother than now. I don't think the management of the club has a clue where we'll be in 2 years, I don't think they care. Not many liked Wilson, but getting rid with no real plan for the rest of the season smacks of nothing but desperation. You could see this rot setting in a while ago, would have been better to make the change then because getting this lot firing again is a very big ask.

 

[Kev Gee]

Agreed on many counts, but i think Warnock till the end of the season would have been a good shout. Experienced, knows the club & how to get over the finishing line for promotion. Instead weve gone for someone with no experience & who could be seen as part of the problem.

 

[Bladesway]

What PAD says.

 

[God]

" spoz a few wins" so that would be your plan then would it PAD ? Priceless mate. Have the temerity to slag one of the most successful managers we've ever had at he club then suggest we " spoz a few wins" . Unreal.

 

[grafikhaus]

My only reservation about DWs leaving is that it's come too late. After Crawley, it looked as if play-offs was becoming doubtful but - unlike Huddersfield & Wendy last season - Morgs has no time to make any difference.

Make no mistake, the cancelling of the Crawley game on February 5th saved DWs bacon. After the capitulation at home to Coventry four days earlier, we'd have probably lost v. Crawley.

So we're back to square one. Hopefully, the 'new manager syndrome' will kick in and ensure we get in the play-offs, after which anything is a bonus.

I just hope McCabe starts following practice if interviewing for a senior role within the Scarborough Group, namely somebody who has a solid record of achievement in recent years, doesn't bottle it in his second year and shows excellent knowledge of the game as it stands. DW would have failed each criteria.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

" spoz a few wins" so that would be your plan then would it PAD ? Priceless mate. Have the temerity to slag one of the most successful managers we've ever had at he club then suggest we " spoz a few wins" . Unreal.

I'd settle for spozzin five wins at this moment in time

 

[God]

I'd settle for spozzin five wins at this moment in time

We've spozzed MORE than five wins this season I can assure you!

 

[Princess Annes Dog]

We've spozzed MORE than five wins this season I can assure you!

No you can't. You can think that we'd have spozzed a few more, you can hope that we would but you can't assure me of anything. Bet you'd have assured me that we'd beat Wigan and West Ham would have lost at Old Trafford but no, old big nose couldn't work his magic with that simple scenario so what makes you think that he'd do the business with this current crop of piss poor players?

Take off the blinkers, the man isn't God.

 

[Worksop_Blade]

No you can't. You can think that we'd have spozzed a few more, you can hope that we would but you can't assure me of anything. Bet you'd have assured me that we'd beat Wigan and West Ham would have lost at Old Trafford but no, old big nose couldn't work his magic with that simple scenario so what makes you think that he'd do the business with this current crop of piss poor players?

Take off the blinkers, the man isn't God.

No is he isn't god but he's the most successful Utd manager in 20 years.

He inherited a team devoid of anything, heading towards relegation without anything close to a whimper, he turned that crop of piss poor players around and kept us up. Over the following seasons HE built a side that got to 2 cup semis and a play off final playing fast attacking football that a lot of teams couldn't handle.

Then he had to rebuild a side that 2 years later would reach the Premier League for the first time in 12 years finishing 9 points clear of 3rd place and doubling the pigs on the way.

In the Premier League we drew with Liverpool due to a refs incompetence, beat Arsenal, Spurs, West Ham, Fulham, Watford, Wigan & Newcastle and got relegated on GOAL DIFFERENCE.

He spent hardly anything in premier league football terms, created a solid team at home but let himself down with the terrible approach away.

Why do some people forget all this and seem to think he was the anti christ who delivered nothing but doom? I don't know but I'd swap watching United getting humped at home by Crawley Town for the days of watching a battling Blades side nick a winner away at Newcastle United or even smashing the pigs on a sunny day at Hillsborough.

You sir have a very short memory.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

No is he isn't god but he's the most successful Utd manager in 20 years.

He inherited a team devoid of anything, heading towards relegation without anything close to a whimper, he turned that crop of piss poor players around and kept us up. Over the following seasons HE built a side that got to 2 cup semis and a play off final playing fast attacking football that a lot of teams couldn't handle.

Then he had to rebuild a side that 2 years later would reach the Premier League for the first time in 12 years finishing 9 points clear of 3rd place and doubling the pigs on the way.

In the Premier League we drew with Liverpool due to a refs incompetence, beat Arsenal, Spurs, West Ham, Fulham, Watford, Wigan & Newcastle and got relegated on GOAL DIFFERENCE.

He spent hardly anything in premier league football terms, created a solid team at home but let himself down with the terrible approach away.

Why do some people forget all this and seem to think he was the anti christ who delivered nothing but doom? I don't know but I'd swap watching United getting humped at home by Crawley Town for the days of watching a battling Blades side nick a winner away at Newcastle United or even smashing the pigs on a sunny day at Hillsborough.

You sir have a very short memory.

It's no good talking sense.

Warnock haters are much the same as Blackwell haters, they hate Warnock because they hate Warnock.

 

[Grecian2000]

He inherited a team devoid of anything, heading towards relegation without anything close to a whimper, he turned that crop of piss poor players around and kept us up.

But that simply isn't true. He took over a set of players who were easily good enough for the division but had been managed appallingly by Heath. He inherited players like Tracey, Derry, Murphy (who he improved beyond all recognition), Wayne Quinn, Sandford, Devlin, Woodhouse (and what a player he was just in case he's watching!), Bent, Katchouro and Martin Smith. The remarkable thing is that they were in the position they were when he arrived NOT that he managed to turn it around (similar to Hoofy following Robson).

He did, indeed, end up getting a decent team together that got us promoted (having been given more time than any other manager in our history to do so) but this idea that he made a silk purse out of Megsons ear is nonesense.

 

[Worksop_Blade]

He did, indeed, end up getting a decent team together that got us promoted.

More than any other manager has done in 23 years.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

No is he isn't god but he's the most successful Utd manager in 20 years.

He inherited a team devoid of anything, heading towards relegation without anything close to a whimper, he turned that crop of piss poor players around and kept us up. Over the following seasons HE built a side that got to 2 cup semis and a play off final playing fast attacking football that a lot of teams couldn't handle.

Then he had to rebuild a side that 2 years later would reach the Premier League for the first time in 12 years finishing 9 points clear of 3rd place and doubling the pigs on the way.

In the Premier League we drew with Liverpool due to a refs incompetence, beat Arsenal, Spurs, West Ham, Fulham, Watford, Wigan & Newcastle and got relegated on GOAL DIFFERENCE.

He spent hardly anything in premier league football terms, created a solid team at home but let himself down with the terrible approach away.

Why do some people forget all this and seem to think he was the anti christ who delivered nothing but doom? I don't know but I'd swap watching United getting humped at home by Crawley Town for the days of watching a battling Blades side nick a winner away at Newcastle United or even smashing the pigs on a sunny day at Hillsborough.

You sir have a very short memory.

Excellent

 

[Eskimo]

Agree with Grumps, Worksop and Nuddy. Warnock did a really good job for us. He made mistake, yes but all you need do is look at our league position when he started, when he left and where we are now. Throw in the excitement of promotion seasons and a couple of semi-finals as well. He was not well supported financially in the early days and he had to sell players to balance the books. You might not like the guy, for whatever reason you have but his record speaks for itself, it's as straightforward as that. I think the expression is ffs.

 

[Princess Annes Dog]

Why do some people forget all this and seem to think he was the anti christ who delivered nothing but doom? I don't know but I'd swap watching United getting humped at home by Crawley Town for the days of watching a battling Blades side nick a winner away at Newcastle United or even smashing the pigs on a sunny day at Hillsborough.

I too would prefer that, but Warnock the Second Coming couldn't guarantee it. His recent record isn't fantastic so what makes you think he could change the world in 5 games or so and make us world beaters? Indeed with this set of players even the illustrious Dave Bassets motivational bullying would be hard pressed to gee them up, and he was a far better motivator than Warnock.

You sir have a very short memory.

Unfortunately I don't because I also remember us losing away at Fulham, failing to turn up at Bolton, losing away at Middlesboro etc. so we can all cherry pick results to try and win an argument. What I really remember is the totally abject display at Villa that Saturday evening, I remember turning round and saying "We just got relegated", and the Wigan game proved me right so please don't flower things up now. Warnock had enough decent players to keep us up in the Prem, big mouthed arrogant bastard that he was he shat it when it mattered instead. The away performances after Christmas were appaling and that was down to his spineless approach, nothing more and nothing less so forget about Colin, he's history thank goodness.

Morgs may bomb out, he may be the next big thing and I certainly hope he is. Couldn't give 2 shits about Warnock, now it's 100% backing for a bloke who wasn't all mouth, who wouldn't shit it and hide behind others when Wally Downes threatened to twat him, and who actually shone in the Premier League. Good look Morgs, you've got my backing mate.

 

[diplomat]

People moan that Warnock was given so long but the key thing is, for me, to find a man you trust. Then give them time to get the structure, the academy, the scouting right. Then build a team. When that team doesn't work, build another. Every time you change a manager the attitude to the first team and all other areas of the framework changes. That is not good. We need to get someone we trust to build something.

I'm not necessarily a Warnock advocate here. But we trusted him to have tie to adjust the wage bill (which we need to do now) get his players in, which resulted in the '03 team, then rebuild it, which he fucked up a bit, then build a new one, which worked having reaped some academy rewards (jags and tongey).

Fuck what everyone else does. Get someone in. Trust them. Give them time . (If you believe they are right they will continue to be right they are just making adjustments)

 

[Princess Annes Dog]

Good post Diplomat and again, that points to McCabe fucking up. He doesn't pick managers for the long term, he gets us in the shit, picks scapegoats who bust their guts trying to get us out of it, then bins them just before the fans forum to deflecet the blame. He mentioned Europe in 5 years, a phrase that's come back to haunt him a million times yet he never had the guts or the vision to make it happen. He could have done. This club was going places, we had a stadium fit to grace any league, supporters second to none, a team that although not great could have kept us up and we were buzzing. Warnock began to implode, cowardly beyond belief. Transfer window came and it was, WTF???? Are you serious???? And the rest is history.

Only thing about this club that doesn't shit it is the fans. Pity the chairman isn't one or he might have an understanding how much it hurts right now.

 

[BladeFisher]

I too would prefer that, but Warnock the Second Coming couldn't guarantee it. His recent record isn't fantastic so what makes you think he could change the world in 5 games or so and make us world beaters? Indeed with this set of players even the illustrious Dave Bassets motivational bullying would be hard pressed to gee them up, and he was a far better motivator than Warnock.


Unfortunately I don't because I also remember us losing away at Fulham, failing to turn up at Bolton, losing away at Middlesboro etc. so we can all cherry pick results to try and win an argument. What I really remember is the totally abject display at Villa that Saturday evening, I remember turning round and saying "We just got relegated", and the Wigan game proved me right so please don't flower things up now. Warnock had enough decent players to keep us up in the Prem, big mouthed arrogant bastard that he was he shat it when it mattered instead. The away performances after Christmas were appaling and that was down to his spineless approach, nothing more and nothing less so forget about Colin, he's history thank goodness.

Morgs may bomb out, he may be the next big thing and I certainly hope he is. Couldn't give 2 shits about Warnock, now it's 100% backing for a bloke who wasn't all mouth, who wouldn't shit it and hide behind others when Wally Downes threatened to twat him, and who actually shone in the Premier League. Good look Morgs, you've got my backing mate.

To be fair PAD I think you'll find it was the Hulse injury that really screwed us. As soon as it happened we were goosed. You are right Warnock buggered it up away. Shocking, but we might have scrapped the odd goal had Hulse not been crocked at Chelsea. We did go down on Goal Diff, though we would not have known that in advance unless you were Mystic Meg. Mind there were some abject performances at home too if I recall.

As far as NW is concerned, he could be good, but sadly he can't manage in the Prem/Top flight. 3 chances and all failed (County, Blades, QPR).

 

[Grecian2000]

People moan that Warnock was given so long

It was I who pointed out his length of tenure and I wasn't bemoaning it, indeed I fully agree with your assesment.
What I was doing was pointing out that others, before and since, haven't been awarded anywhere near as much time and so it is no surprise that they have "failed" in comparison.

I'm all for making a good appointment and trusting him to follow a plan for at least 5 years. I'd choose someone less divisive (and a deal younger) than Colin, of that there is no doubt.

 

[super_pig]

steve davies it is then

 

[Princess Annes Dog]

To be fair PAD I think you'll find it was the Hulse injury that really screwed us. As soon as it happened we were goosed. You are right Warnock buggered it up away. Shocking, but we might have scrapped the odd goal had Hulse not been crocked at Chelsea. We did go down on Goal Diff, though we would not have known that in advance unless you were Mystic Meg. Mind there were some abject performances at home too if I recall.

As far as NW is concerned, he could be good, but sadly he can't manage in the Prem/Top flight. 3 chances and all failed (County, Blades, QPR).

I'll give you the Hulse one mate, that was a real hammer blow and it certainly didn't help.

 

[TarquinDelouche]

Only thing about this club that doesn't shit it is the fans.

Really? How many times this season have we been behind at half time and heard calls of "sack the pig". I wonder how long it is before we're hearing "sack the dingle". Yes, we've been through a lot but we're possibly the most fickle bunch of fans in the land. Don't tell me Blades fans don't shit it.

 

[super_pig]

i didn't hear any chants of sack the pig and i'm in the middle of the kop.. (something i thought quite astonishing actually).. as for Morgs. you aren't comparing apples with apples.. no comparison really

 

[Grecian2000]

Really? How many times this season have we been behind at half time and heard calls of "sack the pig".

None in my part of the Kop. How many times have we actually been behind at half time though?

Tired of saying it really but we are like every other bunch of fans in the country. Some are extremely fickle, some would eat a shit sandwich if they sold it in the club shop in Red and white and, most, are somewhere in between. Same at every ground I've ever attended and always will be.