Thanks Danny

[FleaPitBlade]

When we got relegated the club was at such a low that the best any of us were expecting was a clear out and a season of mid table stabilisation. There was even thought in some corners we’d be facing a relegation battle. Anybody coming on this forum suggesting a title challenge would have been shot down in flames.

Danny put the brakes on the slide, got the place (and us) moving forwards again and playing a brand of attacking football we’d not seen in a long time. All of this he did with dignity and composure and against a backdrop of disgusting abuse from a high percentage of fans who were sat quietly in the wings waiting for him to fail.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

My point is that yes, as the we would probably have been able to sell him in Jan in the real universe and resisted the tempttation to do so, which suggests that McCabe was, on this occasion, willing to hang on to his prize asset to get promotion.

Ched was injured at the start of the season and didn't really get scoring until around November time. We'll never know whether it was the court case that put clubs off, whether McCAbe did turn any bids down or the fact that the previous 2 months were the only time he'd shown any kind of form in 3 plus years. Add to that the fact he was out of contract in the Summer and we may well have kept him all season regardless of the court case.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

Everyone is now harping back to how good it was last season - but forgetting the appalling negative tactics we used in the play off final. And what about this season? Negative, spineless, boring football - week in, week out. Our home record is nothing short of disgraceful, given the poor quality of opposition.

I could have got us to the play offs last season, given how superior our team was to most in League 1.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Everyone is now harping back to how good it was last season - but forgetting the appalling negative tactics we used in the play off final.

So you're blaming Danny for being without arguably our two most influential players last season and missing those pens ?

 

[FleaPitBlade]

A strike-force that was the most dangerous in the division got jailed, injured or suspended in the space of a week and left us with Porter - the fact we even managed to drag our patched up carcass to the play off final was a miracle in itself and if we were going to win it, it was only ever going to be 1-0!

 

[Junior Soduko]

Everyone is now harping back to how good it was last season - but forgetting the appalling negative tactics we used in the play off final. And what about this season? Negative, spineless, boring football - week in, week out. Our home record is nothing short of disgraceful, given the poor quality of opposition.

I could have got us to the play offs last season, given how superior our team was to most in League 1.

Just a slight over exaggeration i feel.

 

[Hartley Hare]

Jim, I am with you on this and agree with your opening post.

Danny Wilson did a good job for the club, and I think statistically he is the best manager ever. Although, this season has been difficult, with a poorer group of players and restricted budget.

Some say we are in a false position, well if that is the case then it must be down to the managers wise use of resources available and we have over performed. I said before "you can't make a silk purse from a sow's ear".

I may be proved wrong, if Morgan shakes the team up and we win the next five games. Will he make wholesale changes? I am not against Ironside and Mcfazdean getting a go.

Thanks Danny, good luck for the future.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

Thanks Danny...

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

I may be proved wrong, if Morgan shakes the team up and we win the next five games. Will he make wholesale changes? I am not against Ironside and Mcfazdean getting a go.

The 'new manager syndrome' seems to work more often than not and no doubt Morgs will get a positive reaction but I guess it depends on how true these rumours are about certain players in the squad and how 'together' they are. The fact remains though that team are lacking in confidence and form and that won't just change overnight. IF we can get a good start on Saturday and go on to win the game then who knows but it will certainly be interesting to see who starts the game.

I don't think he'll change much, it'll be a case of, 'you got us into this mess, go and put it right' although he has been in charge of the 'development' squad so will know more than most about the two you mention.

 

[sheffielder]

Thanks Danny...

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wow, if only winning games and not getting promoted was important

 

[sheffielder]

I am bit confused, has Danny had or not had more resources than all other teams in our division? I know he ended up with a 4 million budget ( he resigned because McCabe wanted to make it 2m and also offered Danny to return on a lower wage by the way)

Doncaster have struggled to put a full 18 out all season and they can't attract players of the calibre of Higginbottom, Kitson, Robson and McMahon etc; not to mention Murphy and Miller.

Look I understand a decent job Danny has done but he is unable to complete the job, he has years of constant failure. Has anyone stopped to wonder why he was never offered a job in the championship when so many jobs have become free?

It just makes me wonder how many of you watch us play every week who have sympathy with Danny

 

[UnitedBlade]

Thanks Danny...

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I agree a great record but for those in that list that were sacked, they were judged on how results were going at the end of their tenure.

And it will ever be the case. His results since Christmas have not been good enough and I don't think many of us thought we were still heading for promotion.

As I said in an earlier post, I probably saw more Blades wins in a season last year than any other time in 50 years of watching them. But we aren't heading in the right direction right at this minute.

A gamble but who knows what will happen.

 

[ponteblade]

Think Danny deserved better!

 

[Selly]

The 'new manager syndrome' seems to work more often than not and no doubt Morgs will get a positive reaction but I guess it depends on how true these rumours are about certain players in the squad and how 'together' they are. The fact remains though that team are lacking in confidence and form and that won't just change overnight. IF we can get a good start on Saturday and go on to win the game then who knows but it will certainly be interesting to see who starts the game.

I don't think he'll change much, it'll be a case of, 'you got us into this mess, go and put it right' although he has been in charge of the 'development' squad so will know more than most about the two you mention.

I've posted this else where, but if he wins his first 5 games that will be the best return from teh first 5 of any new manager in the last 30 years

Manager PPG after 5 Points in first 5 Total if replicated
Warnock 2.60 13.00 83.00
Wilson 2.60 13.00 83.00
Spackman 2.20 11.00 81.00
Speed 1.80 9.00 79.00
Blackwell 1.60 8.00 78.00
Porterfield 1.40 7.00 77.00
McKewan 1.40 7.00 77.00
Thompson 1.40 7.00 77.00
Bruce 1.40 7.00 77.00
Robson 1.40 7.00 77.00
Bassett 1.20 6.00 76.00
Kendall 1.00 5.00 75.00
Heath 1.00 5.00 75.00
Adams 0.40 2.00 72.00

 

[bladesadviser]

For all the plaudits for attractive football last season and complaints of negative football this season, we are in the still in the same place as when he took over. Who cares if its attractive as long as we win, no points in this game for looking good

 

[JJ Sefton]

Thanks Danny.

Fook off Danny.

 

[dingledog]

I think Danny Wilson has shown he is a man of integrity and a thoroughly decent chap. Unfortunately in football the nice guys often don't succeed. I don't know what's happened, but this season I have seen some of the most dire performances from the Blades. Ultimately this has to be the responsibility of the manager. I wish him well or the future.

 

[super_pig]

Crewe's budget is 3.50 and a couple of mars bars yet they sit mid table just below us.. they played us off the park at BDTBL.. if we have the biggest budget in the division then our final position should at least reflect that or it has been a failure.. other teams can produce half decent sides on absolutely minimal budgets compared to ours.. why can't we??

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Crewe's budget is 3.50 and a couple of mars bars yet they sit mid table just below us.. they played us off the park at BDTBL.. if we have the biggest budget in the division then our final position should at least reflect that or it has been a failure.. other teams can produce half decent sides on absolutely minimal budgets compared to ours.. why can't we??

If only it was that simple. Crewe have a steady supply of players moving through their system, and they have a footballing philosophy they stick to, something we were supposed to be aspiring to. Once again, we have had to patch up a squad with loanees and are still a slave to some big contracts. Donny aside, most of the teams challenging have been here a few years or are on the up, we're still struggling following cost cuts. It's sometimes easier having a £2M team rather than a £10M team who have had to cut down to £3M.

 

[JohnDenver]

If only it was that simple. Crewe have a steady supply of players moving through their system, and they have a footballing philosophy they stick to, something we were supposed to be aspiring to. Once again, we have had to patch up a squad with loanees and are still a slave to some big contracts. Donny aside, most of the teams challenging have been here a few years or are on the up, we're still struggling following cost cuts. It's sometimes easier having a £2M team rather than a £10M team who have had to cut down to £3M.

This is the reason I'm more expectant of promotion next season that this. The job we have in the summer is finally one of building rather than destroying, albeit from a lower base. I'd sooner have a team of decent but cheap Div1 players to build upon, than a team of expensive Championship flops which needs to be unravelled. This is when we should make our higher turnover / FFP advantage work for us.

But we might go up anyway meaning I'll never be proved horribly wrong.

 

[Revolution]

This is the reason I'm more expectant of promotion next season that this. The job we have in the summer is finally one of building rather than destroying, albeit from a lower base. I'd sooner have a team of decent but cheap Div1 players to build upon, than a team of expensive Championship flops which needs to be unravelled. This is when we should make our higher turnover / FFP advantage work for us.

But we might go up anyway meaning I'll never be proved horribly wrong.

I think that is naive in the extreme. Unless we luck out with a fantastic appointment, expect a weaker squad and a struggle.

 

[JJ Sefton]

This is the reason I'm more expectant of promotion next season that this. The job we have in the summer is finally one of building rather than destroying, albeit from a lower base.

I think we've thought that for a few years now.

 

[JohnDenver]

I think that is naive in the extreme. Unless we luck out with a fantastic appointment, expect a weaker squad and a struggle.

I disagree.

The FFP rules should work as an advantage only so long as we're not wasting our money on the expensive "Championship" players who got us here. For the first time in this league we can now enter a summer and be able to plan recruitment ahead of sales. Recrtuitment of solid, promising Div1 players.

It's exactly how Charlton got out of this mess. Planning is key.

 

[JohnDenver]

I think we've thought that for a few years now.

Really? We've been overspending ever since Wembley '09 with no serious attempt to reprofile (despite Trevor Birch's remit). If we'd done it in 2009 we'd not be here now.

Only this season have we achieved a sensible wage situation. From this point we should have the stability you need in order to plan properly (rather sit around all summer praying other teams buy Monty, Quinn, Cress, et al).

Thought you'd like a bit of austerity old chap?

 

[JJ Sefton]

Really? We've been overspending ever since Wembley '09 with no serious attempt to reprofile (despite Trevor Birch's remit).

And here was me thinking we'd sold every half decent prospect we had.

 

[JohnDenver]

And here was me thinking we'd sold every half decent prospect we had.

We have, but would we have had to do so quite so readily if we weren't spectacularly overspending on wages?

 

[Flakey]

I hope some of the so called 1st team squad are reflecting on this, that their "I'm having a bad day so I won't chase the ball, or I won't screw it up if I pass it back to goal.

Their 60% performances (and sometimes less, often infact) have caused a decent bloke to get the bullet.

Sure he could have left them out the side, but when we have days when all 11 are crap, just what could he do?

Thanks Danny, I think you have left United in better shape than when you started.

 

[metalblade]

It is always sad to see someone lose their job but my feelings are he should never have got the job in the first place. What I do find shocking is the timing of his departure, if we were going to give him his P45 we should have done it before the January transfer window, at least give whoever takes over a chance to make a difference 5 games away from the end of the season is madness. The only positive I can see is Morgan might get them fired up for the play off's maybe this is McCabe's thinking ??? I don't think anyone can argue against the fact that Danny is a nice guy who has done the job with honesty and dignity, this I think has been Danny's downfall not the failure to get a good but overpaid squad promotion last season. At the end of the day Wilson was just the sort of nice guy who McCabe could use as a fall guy if things went wrong. Danny Wilson isn't the best manager in the world nor is he the worst by a long way, I cannot believe after Porter and McFazdean changed the game at Walsall that Wilson would decide not to start them against Crawley .................... no even Wilson is not that dumb. How does Kitson Doyle and Robson etc get a game when they have been crap for weeks ??? did Danny actually pick the team every week ??? makes you wonder.
I remember Wilson saying to the press we don't want any ageing 30 odd year old strikers a few days later McCabes mate Kitson arrives, I remember Danny saying to the press we have no money for players, hours later McCabe says money is available !!! I really do wonder just how much McCabe has been meddling in team affairs this season as some of the choices we have made have been just so bad they cannot possibly have been made by someone with any footballing knowledge, what team sat at the top of the league sells it's leading goal scorer and brings in an old journey man or two and a striker on loan who has never made it anywhere he has been ? Yes if it works McCabe and Danny take the credit if not and the gamble fails we all know who takes the blame while the main culprit once again smiles and says Hey there is no bigger Blade than this fella.
Good luck to Wilson sadly it was never meant to be .................. sadly the clowns in the boardroom are not going down the road with him.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

We have, but would we have had to do so quite so readily if we weren't spectacularly overspending on wages?

Yes, because you can't keep a player when a club from a higher division makes an offer.
It's simply impossible to do it, apparently.

 

[JohnDenver]

Yes, because you can't keep a player when a club from a higher division makes an offer.
It's simply impossible to do it, apparently.

I'm not defending the sales, but when you have an owner who's cut his funding, surely a lower wage budget is a better option than relying on ad hoc sales?

McCabe caused this financial situation, but now we're in it there are better strategies than subsidising wages with sales.