Punting it upfield to a 5’8 striker

[Sean Thornton]

Cameron Archer, let me guess you're here to tell me he's 5'9 or some other pedantic bollocks no one cares about

You cared about it enough to shorten him, for effect obviously.

Surprised you replied though. I hear you go into Shoutbox to have a dig at people without tagging them.

 

[Davalon]

'At times'?!?!?
Did you watch the first 70 minutes?

We are all happy with a point at the end of the game, but it's mad to suggest it wasn't heavily down to good fortune

I was there.

My expectations are realistic.

I'm not blind to our failings but would rather get behind what we have than constantly whinge and moan when the room for improvement isn't as big or simple as some suggest. Imho anyway.

 

[Slim Man]

You cared about it enough to shorten him, for effect obviously.

Surprised you replied though. I hear you go into Shoutbox to have a dig at people without tagging them.

You aren't that important

 

[Slim Man]

I was there.

My expectations are realistic.

I'm not blind to our failings but would rather get behind what we have than constantly whinge and moan when the room for improvement isn't as big or simple as some suggest. Imho anyway.

You know what a message board is for right?
As long as people aren't booing every long ball we play, what's the issue?

 

[Davalon]

You know what a message board is for right?
As long as people aren't booing every long ball we play, what's the issue?

Giving opinions for one thing.

Which I haven't said you're not allowed to do.

Mine are clearly different in some ways.

There's a theme though with some of those constantly pushing the anti-Hecky narrative that I'm wary of.

 

[Slim Man]

Giving opinions for one thing.

Which I haven't said you're not allowed to do.

Mine are clearly different in some ways.

There's a theme though with some of those constantly pushing the anti-Hecky narrative that I'm wary of.

I make no bones about the fact I wouldn't be averse to a change of management ever since the 8-0 drubbing. Before that I was very much behind him for the season. Changed everything.

It's nice we've picked up a couple of results, but I don't think the performances have been that much better. But at least we're scrapping and fighting now in comparison to previously.

 

[Sean Thornton]

You aren't that important

Why do it then?

 

[Slim Man]

Why do it then?

And we've caught one, a massive one infact.

A successful cast if I ever saw it.

 

[Sean Thornton]

And we've caught one, a massive one infact.

A successful cast if I ever saw it.

And the goalposts change

At least you haven’t denied it. Fishy Man.

 

[ATL Recs]

We man marked and struggled early on with their players roaming around and pulling our defenders out of position. It looked like it could be a very poor game and an ugly result. But while we didn't look good, we kept it to 0-1, with the goal coming after some very good skill from Brighton's players. In terms of big chances they actually didn't have any more:

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We gained better defensive control after their goal. After their big European game in the week, they may have lacked the hunger to really go at us and create lots of chances. Maybe Hecky deserves some credit for this. Although we looked poor, we stayed in the game, had some attacks and some set pieces at the end of the half. Our defensive shape had some nullifying effects on their threats.

In the second half they had some spells of pressure, but it was already more even when the red card happened. From then on we dominated.

I wonder what would have happened if we had made more substitutions and really gone for it. They looked to tire in the second half. Hecky doesn't seem to trust his bench though. Then again, you do take a risk when throwing on subs who are less experienced. Slimane didn't do particularly well and if the other subs had been similar, we may have made mistakes that may have seen them break away more often.

I'm reasonably happy with 1-1, and it sets up nicely for the two vital games coming up.

And which game did you watch - they could and should have scored 2 more in the first half credit to our Goalkeeper for a couple of big saves. Other than that we stayed in the game due to good fortune aka - City Spurs - we improved in the second half and the introduction of Osbourne was instrumental in that ( never thought I would be saying that) but that wasn't due to any tactical ability of our manager - same as last week with Brewster - it was down to an enforced substitution.
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[brownblade]

Who's surprised about being 2nd best? I literally said they're a better team than us and I don't mind losing

The issue isn't being 2nd best, the issue is playing how we're playing. The first half vs Wolves was shite, up until the sending off yesterday was shite.
It sorta makes sense if McBurnie is on the pitch to lump it forward, but when you've got Archer on his own it's bordering on lunacy. The ball will just keep coming back, and yesterday we were fortunate it was only 1-0 by the time their man got sent off.

Also, we barely went hell for leather to win it did we after the goal? We didn't bring Osula on until 90+3 or summat.

In the end is it a good point? Yes.
But we are a dire dire watch, and it's no wonder MOTD and the likes don't spend long talking about us - yet everyone in here cries about that.
We need to spend 2 weeks now working on passing the ball and moving, because we are trying to play a style that you can't get away with in this league, they're all bigger, stronger and quicker than we are.

Osula is nowhere near ready to play Premier League football, in reality. Same for Brooks etc and presumably Slimane and Traore (as Hecky avoids using them and has said they're learning or similar words).

Bringing Osula on for 20 minutes sounds fun as he's an academy talent, but probably would increase our chances of losing that match rather than winning it.

 

[LSF]

I was there.

My expectations are realistic.

I'm not blind to our failings but would rather get behind what we have than constantly whinge and moan when the room for improvement isn't as big or simple as some suggest. Imho anyway.

Superbly put. Where we are in a nutshell. Some people on here simply don't like us.

 

[Slim Man]

And the goalposts change

At least you haven’t denied it. Fishy Man.

I'm not going to continue to bore everyone to death by conversing with you

 

[ATL Recs]

He brings on the same subs week in week out and we get the SAME outcome.

So all this "world beating" shit is absolute bollocks. Give someone else a chance to try something DIFFERENT for a fucking change.

Every week, Osborn comes on and offers us NOTHING

Not an Osborne fan but he DID make a difference yesterday

 

[LBA_Blade]

To be fair to go to a “top half” team and get a point is a decent result many were predicting we would get done 3 or 4 nil etc. The reality of it, is Brighton are a decent side now helped by money and shrewd transfer business but every point helps

 

[brownblade]

To be fair to go to a “top half” team and get a point is a decent result many were predicting we would get done 3 or 4 nil etc. The reality of it, is Brighton are a decent side now helped by money and shrewd transfer business but every point helps

Exactly. And often you need to ride your luck/weather the storm, to get a result. BHA are currently one of the best set-up and managed teams in the country, if not Europe.

I understand some of the tactical concerns, such as Slim Man highlighting long balls. But using that one as an example, when you're playing an excellent pressing team, sometimes booting it long is a MUCH better idea than being dispossessed close to your own goal. It probably wasn't a tactic, but an enforced action.

Remember when Roy's Views From always had the opposition saying "we just had a bad game"? We regularly MADE the opposition have bad games. Playing top opposition can easily make you look bad.

I think the bigger picture is sometimes needed when forming the tactical criticisms. It's not easy to go out there and play to your gameplan, or outplay better teams! Especially with a thin squad that's lacking in equivalent quality to the opposition (every week).

 

[Bergen Blade]

And which game did you watch - they could and should have scored 2 more in the first half credit to our Goalkeeper for a couple of big saves. Other than that we stayed in the game due to good fortune aka - City Spurs - we improved in the second half and the introduction of Osbourne was instrumental in that ( never thought I would be saying that) but that wasn't due to any tactical ability of our manager - same as last week with Brewster - it was down to an enforced substitution.
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I thought we looked like a team several levels below them at the start. We looked all over the place and couldn't handle their movement. I wondered if it would become a Newcastle type of game. Thankfully, we gained more control as the game went on though.

Above, I was quoting the official match stats, which gave the two chances you mention 0,2 and 0,26 xG scores. Both were hit fairly straight at Wes, and on each there were two defenders contributing towards Fati hurrying his shots.

When people say a team "should have scored four", it is rarely the case.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I'm not going to continue to bore everyone to death by conversing with you

You tend not to worry about boring people normally but fester away Mr Angry.


Btw, it appears he’s 5’11”. I’m sure you’ll have been told more than once an extra 3” would make things a lot better…..

 

[A Storm of Blades]

You tend not to worry about boring people normally but fester away Mr Angry.


Btw, it appears he’s 5’11”. I’m sure you’ll have been told more than once an extra 3” would make things a lot better…..

Ahh, the perfect height for a man

 

[Houston_Blade]

with a weaker more injury hit squad.

Kean Bryan and Ollie Burke say “hello”

 

[ZLB]

I'm not going to continue to bore everyone to death by conversing with you

Oh my god you are like soooooo boring.

 

[Slim Man]

Oh my god you are like soooooo boring.

Alright Vicky Pollard

 

[Slim Man]

You tend not to worry about boring people normally but fester away Mr Angry.


Btw, it appears he’s 5’11”. I’m sure you’ll have been told more than once an extra 3” would make things a lot better…..

FM has him listed as 5’7, google has him listed as 5’8, your source has him listed as 5’11

In reality though, no one cares

 

[Sean Thornton]

FM has him listed as 5’7, google has him listed as 5’8, your source has him listed as 5’11

In reality though, no one cares

I simply asked who was the 5’8” striker. And your period started.

You clearly care otherwise you wouldn’t reply. Like you said you wouldn’t.

 

[Slim Man]

I simply asked who was the 5’8” striker. And your period started.

You clearly care otherwise you wouldn’t reply. Like you said you wouldn’t.

Quite obviously the one who started upfront doesn’t take a rocket scientist does it? Yet you felt it worthy to make a strange bone of contention. Must not have much of a life, bless.

You keep responding to me, I’m just polite

 

[CarlMcBlade]

With no strength and barely any hold up skills. Away from home.

Yeah, get Hecky out of my club please. Immediately.

One spawny result last week changes nothing. A deflected through ball and a dodgy pen won’t pull the wool over my eyes, we were crap and there’s no pretending otherwise.

Don’t mind losing to better sides, I hate losing playing the stupid idiotic tactics. Or lack of.

I can’t really see it being an Hecky tactic per se. But I also think it’s a individual choice by players who’ve realised they ain’t good enough for the Premier league. With the possible exception of James McAtee, nobody really looks comfortable on the ball and seem to get hurried into making poor decisions.

 

[DSB-91]

I can’t really see it being an Hecky tactic per se. But I also think it’s a individual choice by players who’ve realised they ain’t good enough for the Premier league. With the possible exception of James McAtee, nobody really looks comfortable on the ball and seem to get hurried into making poor decisions.

This is what I think. I think it’s extremely unlikely Hecky’s telling the team to punt it long at the first sign of pressure. I do genuinely think this side is one of the most technically limited in the division. I also think all of the players fear making a mistake and default to the safest option.

Some of our fans need to accept that there’s a gulf in quality between our team and most of the others in this division. We’re not going to go away to Brighton and knock it about all game and create 100s of chances. We are going to have to hang on at times and we are going to have to ride our luck.

I don’t know if Hecky is the best possible option to get the most out of these players. However, I doubt any manager could have this team playing great possession football. Also, it’s fine saying get rid, but realistically, who are we getting in? We don’t have money to pay anyone or get the players they’ll want in. I don’t see any point in getting Wilder in or some young unknown like Wednesday have tried. If those are the options, we may as well stick with Hecky.

 

[ekke287]

I was there.

My expectations are realistic.

I'm not blind to our failings but would rather get behind what we have than constantly whinge and moan when the room for improvement isn't as big or simple as some suggest. Imho anyway.

100% this. We have a lot of failings this season, meaning it’s going to be a long one, but we work with what we’ve got.

 

[Big Hitter]

Ahh, the perfect height for a man

I have an extra inch.....not bragging ..just saying.

 

[ISZA ⚔️]

First half shite. Second half fight. Much like last week.

It was hugely important we didn’t lose that game after beating Wolves. Small steps. A bit of confidence in the players along with a lot of fight can go a long way.

Miracle if we stay up though. And that‘s with any cunt in charge.