1 minute silence tonight?

[Linz]

I **almost** posted this very thread yesterday as a warning to the club in case someone was even contemplating it... but I thought they wouldn't be that daft.

 

[Darren]

I **almost** posted this very thread yesterday as a warning to the club in case someone was even contemplating it... but I thought they wouldn't be that daft.

I can't see it, given that Sheffield is the most anti-Tory city in England. Thet haven't had an MP in the city since the last century and no councillors for about 10 years. At the last local elections the Tory Party came 5th after Labour, the Liberals, the Greens and UKIP.

That's Thatcher's legacy for the Tory Party in Sheffield.

 

[Grecian2000]

If a minutes silence is not held tonight (and I appreciate the difficulties in doing so) then the death of any former PM in the future also should not be marked with one.

and has the death of any former PM ever been marked with a minutes silence, because I don't remember one for McMillan, Home, Wilson, Heath or Callaghan, who have all died since I started going to BDTBL (although both Wilson and Heath died outside of the football season)?

Too many minutes silence for my liking these days, certainly shouldn't be one in this case.

 

[Darren]

and has the death of any former PM ever been marked with a minutes silence, because I don't remember one for McMillan, Home, Wilson, Heath or Callaghan, who have all died since I started going to BDTBL (although both Wilson and Heath died outside of the football season)?

Too many minutes silence for my liking these days, certainly shouldn't be one in this case.

MacMillan died on 29th December 1986. Like Thatcher that was 23 years after he had ceased to be PM. Our next home game was on 3rd Jan 87 v WBA. I was there and I am pretty sure there was no minute's silence.

 

[Maidenhead]

The difference with the USA is that the President is the Head of State there, so a President dying there is the equivalent of the King or Queen dying here.

Do you think any head of state/government should be treated with respect when they die? Hitler? Stalin? Pinochet?, Mao? Pol Pot?

Obviously, Thatcher was not a murderous genocidal dictator, but if you admit that we can make political judgments in not respecting Hitler and Stalin when they die, it seems you are admitting that sometimes one should not respect the office, but consider the person who filled it.

But she did shoot the Belgrano up the backside as it was sailing away from disputed waters to teach those "argies" a lesson.

Don't suppose that had anything to do with boosting her all time low popularity ratings at home?

 

[Pinchy]

and has the death of any former PM ever been marked with a minutes silence, because I don't remember one for McMillan, Home, Wilson, Heath or Callaghan, who have all died since I started going to BDTBL (although both Wilson and Heath died outside of the football season)?

Too many minutes silence for my liking these days, certainly shouldn't be one in this case.

Quite right. The annual Munich disaster tearfest is one that irks me. Yes it was a human tragedy but I'm afraid some Man Ure fans, not unlike the Scousers, seize on such things to wallow in how big and important they are. How often has Old Trafford seen a minute's silence for Mel Rees or any of the many players of other clubs cut down before their time? It's a rhetorical question, of course. They couldn't care less.

Another thing. I should have added Hillsborough to my Thatcher rant. Her "cage 'em in" policy was a significant contributory factor.

Anyway, she's already annoyed Satan. She's only been down there a day and she's already closed two furnaces!

Anyway, anyway, bollocks to all this. We've got a job to do tonight - all of us. Get behind the lads - good or bad. Three points will make the world a brighter place.

COYRAWW!!!!!

 

[Bert]

We can applaud a convicted rapist but not the nations greatest leader in peace time.

When Bert applauds at a football match it is because a footballer has done something he likes, it's not for some politician or rapist.

 

[Darren]

If United were daft enough to hold a minute's silence, thousands would deliberately break it. And quite right too. This is a woman who lived along life and died a natural death and who was responsible for policies many many people profoundly disagreed with.

If those who mourn her passing wish to mourn for her, they can find many more appropriate fora. No way should anyone impose a display of public mourning.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Do you think the club would be daft enough to try and hold a minute's silence before the match tonight?

The only way they could achieve this would be to announce it as a minute's applause.

Really hope not

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

I'll show her all the respect she showed when decimating communities of ordinary people all over the land, whilst the non-working, cocaine-snorting nouveau rich speculators feasted at their expense.

I'll show her all the respect that her 'children' - the shameless bankers, stockbrokers and other champagne-swillers continue to demonstrate in her name and others like her.

I'll show her all the respect she showed to the human beings who were killed on the General Belgrano whilst sailing away from conflict.

I'll show her all the respect she showed to those who fell by the wayside, many taking their own lives in despair, in the compassionless 'Greed is Good - Loadsamoney' anti-community culture she so callously cultivated.

No respect from me, Thatcher. Not a jot. I'd suggest a minute's abuse but that would give you more time than you ever gave to ordinary working people and their aspirations.

No. You evil destroyer of lives and livelihoods. You can have five seconds utter silent contempt.

Nice one Pinchy

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

The difference with the USA is that the President is the Head of State there, so a President dying there is the equivalent of the King or Queen dying here.

Do you think any head of state/government should be treated with respect when they die? Hitler? Stalin? Pinochet?, Mao? Pol Pot?

Obviously, Thatcher was not a murderous genocidal dictator, but if you admit that we can make political judgments in not respecting Hitler and Stalin when they die, it seems you are admitting that sometimes one should not respect the office, but consider the person who filled it.

She killed quite a few communities that to this day are still suffering.

Because they can't stand in a witness block the communities don't count?

She was utter evil and we are well rid.

 

[LSF]

I'll show her all the respect she showed when decimating communities of ordinary people all over the land, whilst the non-working, cocaine-snorting nouveau rich speculators feasted at their expense.

I'll show her all the respect that her 'children' - the shameless bankers, stockbrokers and other champagne-swillers continue to demonstrate in her name and others like her.

I'll show her all the respect she showed to the human beings who were killed on the General Belgrano whilst sailing away from conflict.

I'll show her all the respect she showed to those who fell by the wayside, many taking their own lives in despair, in the compassionless 'Greed is Good - Loadsamoney' anti-community culture she so callously cultivated.

No respect from me, Thatcher. Not a jot. I'd suggest a minute's abuse but that would give you more time than you ever gave to ordinary working people and their aspirations.

No. You evil destroyer of lives and livelihoods. You can have five seconds utter silent contempt.

Superb Pinchy!

Maybe Swiss hasn't really thought it through properly

 

[bladesfan]

Remember the times I remember a pig fan telling me Chelsea played at the stye and they sung you'll never walk alone with a new text whats it like to be on the dole and 20 pound notes instead of scarfs between their hands. I had with my job to work in Scunthorpe, Birmingham and Liverpool at that time. Thank you Maggi for what you did You started the rat race were the Bankers get fatter and the poorer poorer I hope Toni Benn lets you in and there and then gives you a season ticket for Sheffield Wednesday.

 

[God]

The country is in the shit its in now mainly due to her policies. Communities decimated and the Countrys assets sold off to foreign owners for a quick fifty pieces of silver. Enjoying the fruits of her "competitive" industries are we? Reflect on whether she was " the greatest peacetime leader" we've ever had or not the next time your Gas or Leccy bill drops on your door mat. Thats Thatcherism. Hope she rots in hell.

 

[Putney Blade]

Probably minute's silence and some more in the dressing room if we don't win tonight.

 

[boo radley]

There were anti Bitch celebrations last night in several cities.
To those of you who say she and her family should be respected at this time of her death, I say again you have not contemplated the death of so many and shown any thought towards them. Again like my proud friend who she took a job away from and did not provide or even try to provide another so he committed suicide cos he could not provide for his family.
"At least she had the courage of her convictions some say and the guts to do something" some say.
What a load of bollocks that is, if its wrong what you do or offensive to so many it does not command respect.

 

[dublin 10 blade]

I have my views and they differ from some , and concur with others , but when people talk of smashing unions , the falklands war , loads of money society , spirit , remember a few things the next time you sit down to a teabreak/lunch break thank the unions , when you work a 38 hour week thank the unions, {I work 48 } the next time you go into your second minimum wage job thank maggie, when 1 in 6 workers in the uk need welfare to survive thank maggie ,we were going to give the falklands away as it was to far to defend and would cost too much to defend , but only for the fact a dictator in argentina , wanted to deflect attention away from mass murders at home , and deflect attention away from his genocide , he won maggie the next election, any decent opposition would have beaten herr maggie , thanks SDP for keeping her in power , when maggie was smashing our industrial base , Germany was spending money on there's and the difference now is who is the european power moving forward , never mind we've call centre's to beat the band until they move to india , and our banking centre { London } is the envy of the world , not totally against maggie council house sales and union ballots were 2 good things , but when I come back home and see the state of our once proud city, I cry inside , never mind we've the bronze sculpters in meadowhall to remember what real work used to be like . Never mind we've no unions to worry about , we've kept the falklands , every body is loaded , and the the comunity spirit England is reknowed for is alive and well , so it's a no from me as reguards the minutes silence , sorry Swizzler . U.T.B.

 

[upton blade]

Well said pinchy . Definately a north south divide when it comes to loathe or like that witch . A vile woman i hope it was the most painful death imaginable . She boils my blood

 

[JJ Sefton]

In any event, my view is that minute's silences at football grounds should be resreved for people who gave conspicuous service to the club in question or - at a stretch - football in general. Politicians of any party should never ever get them.

I seem to remember a minutes silence at Bramall Lane when Matt Busby died?

 

[Hague Blade]

No fan of Kinnock, but he had a good line on her: "All conviction, no compassion"

 

[JJ Sefton]

and has the death of any former PM ever been marked with a minutes silence, because I don't remember one for McMillan, Home, Wilson, Heath or Callaghan, who have all died since I started going to BDTBL (although both Wilson and Heath died outside of the football season)?

Too many minutes silence for my liking these days, certainly shouldn't be one in this case.

Well said.

 

[BladeFisher]

I can't see it, given that Sheffield is the most anti-Tory city in England. Thet haven't had an MP in the city since the last century and no councillors for about 10 years. At the last local elections the Tory Party came 5th after Labour, the Liberals, the Greens and UKIP.

That's Thatcher's legacy for the Tory Party in Sheffield.

So that's not very long ago then, unless you meant the 19th century.

 

[judge]

Greedy people voted for maggy three times on the promise of s few extra quid in their backpocket , these people have to sleep at night knowing that broken Britain is the price of their greed

 

[BladeFisher]

But she did shoot the Belgrano up the backside as it was sailing away from disputed waters to teach those "argies" a lesson.

Don't suppose that had anything to do with boosting her all time low popularity ratings at home?

No she didn't HMS Conqueror did. And anyway she was working on advice from the Chief of Staffs and unlike a 'Labour PM' she didn't fabricate evidence to suggest the Argentinians were doing something they were not. Given that HMS Sheffield was the first RN casualty then shame on you.

I pressume you are an Argentinian sympathiser then? You quite agree that it is acceptable for bullies to come along invade your home and the authorities just shrug their shoulders?

Attitudes like yours would have seen Hitler rule all of Europe.

 

[JJ Sefton]

No she didn't HMS Conqueror did. And anyway she was working on advice from the Chief of Staffs and unlike a 'Labour PM' she didn't fabricate evidence to suggest the Argentinians were doing something they were not. Given that HMS Sheffield was the first RN casualty then shame on you.

I saw an interview with captain of the Belgrano once who said the RN was quite right to sink his ship. "We weren't sailing home" he said.

I always think of anti aircraft gunners during the Blitz watching Luftwaffe planes flying home and saying "Don't shoot! They're flying back to Germany"

 

[Highbury_Blade]

I saw an interview with captain of the Belgrano once who said the RN was quite right to sink his ship. "We weren't sailing home" he said.

As the admiral in charge of the task force said

Argentine Rear Admiral Allara, who was in charge of the task force that the Belgrano was part of, said "After that message of 23 April, (confirming that the maritime exclusion zone was not the limit of Britain's Miltary actions) the entire South Atlantic was an operational theatre for both sides. We, as professionals, said it was just too bad that we lost the Belgrano"

 

[JJ Sefton]

As the admiral in charge of the task force said

Argentine Rear Admiral Allara sounds like a Tory cunt to me. Wibble.

 

[TarquinDelouche]

I'll show her all the respect she showed when decimating communities of ordinary people all over the land, whilst the non-working, cocaine-snorting nouveau rich speculators feasted at their expense.

I'll show her all the respect that her 'children' - the shameless bankers, stockbrokers and other champagne-swillers continue to demonstrate in her name and others like her.

I'll show her all the respect she showed to the human beings who were killed on the General Belgrano whilst sailing away from conflict.

I'll show her all the respect she showed to those who fell by the wayside, many taking their own lives in despair, in the compassionless 'Greed is Good - Loadsamoney' anti-community culture she so callously cultivated.

No respect from me, Thatcher. Not a jot. I'd suggest a minute's abuse but that would give you more time than you ever gave to ordinary working people and their aspirations.

No. You evil destroyer of lives and livelihoods. You can have five seconds utter silent contempt.

I just want to quote this so my name can be associated with it and I can warm myself in the glow of its complete and utter win.

 

[TarquinDelouche]

Tory cunt

There are some words that just seem made to go together.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

There are some words that just seem made to go together.

Like Lucky and Shit.

Are the bombs armed for this evening Tarquers?