Wilder.

[jono_t2000]

From ChatGPT:


"There once was a manager named Chris
Whose job was always in a state of abyss
He'd join a new club with great hope and cheer
Only to be sacked by the end of the year.

He started at Halifax, with a smile so wide,
But soon found himself back on the outside,
Next up was Oxford, but alas, it wasn't meant to be,
And soon poor Chris was back to watching TV.

Northampton came calling, with a glimmer of hope
But again poor Chris was left unable to cope
And just when he thought he'd found his niche
He was sacked from Sheffield United, life can be such a bitch.

But Chris refused to give up, he kept going strong
He joined up with Boro and righted some wrongs
But just when he thought he'd cracked it at last
He was sacked once again, it happened so fast.

Now poor Chris is on the job hunt once more
Hoping and praying he won't be shown the door
But regardless of where he goes, or whats in his past
We'll always remember him as the man who just couldn't last.

So here's to you, Chris Wilder, with your sacking streak
We hope you find a job that lasts more than a week
And until then, we'll keep our fingers crossed
And hope your next job doesn't come at such a cost."

 

[Stretch]

What, like Boro did?



There's a quote in Roygbiv's latest view from which describes Wilder as a "Northern Aidy Boothroyd". I think that's pretty much nailed it: Wilder's career is beginning to suggest that he hit upon some magic here which he's not ever going to replicate. It's a shame.

I don't think that's fair, because he won trophies everywhere he went before coming to us too. To then get 3 promotions in 4 seasons (inc Northampton), with a top half PL finish at the first time of asking, suggested a man who had something rather special about him.

There are tangible reasons that can be highlighted as to why it all went wrong (empty stadiums, some poor decisions in the transfer market, a public falling out with the owner) but the impact of what happened seems more profound and seems to have diminished him.

 

[alcoblade]

Which is the main reason I've been impressed by how patient Arsenal have been with Arteta. They could have panicked and sacked him a couple of times, but have trusted they've got the right guy...

Yes, fair play to them and a great example to most of the other idiots running football clubs.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

I don't think that's fair, because he won trophies everywhere he went before coming to us too. To then get 3 promotions in 4 seasons (inc Northampton), with a top half PL finish at the first time of asking, suggested a man who had something rather special about him.

There are tangible reasons that can be highlighted as to why it all went wrong (empty stadiums, some poor decisions in the transfer market, a public falling out with the owner) but the impact of what happened seems more profound and seems to have diminished him.

Don't want to drag this off to another tired Wilder Thread but the covid/empty stadium excuse doesn't hold much sway any more.

The guys ego was out of control, and as much as I hate the term - he'd clearly lost the dressing room as I'm guessing the people seeing him every day had grown tired of it/him. The evidence since then is that he's really struggled to have the same impact on a bunch of footballers as he had in his time here (and at previous clubs). Until he can figure out why that is, how to put it right - he's going to be in this ever decreasing circle...

 

[jono_t2000]

Don't want to drag this off to another tired Wilder Thread but the covid/empty stadium excuse doesn't hold much sway any more.

The guys ego was out of control, and as much as I hate the term - he'd clearly lost the dressing room as I'm guessing the people seeing him every day had grown tired of it/him. The evidence since then is that he's really struggled to have the same impact on a bunch of footballers as he had in his time here (and at previous clubs). Until he can figure out why that is, how to put it right - he's going to be in this ever decreasing circle...

I think most people would agree with that.

He's never been a tactical manager (leaving that up to Knilly and the rest behind the scenes)

He is a man manager, but when that stops being effective there is nowhere else to turn to really

 

[Champagneblade]

Odd really as I thought Boro would have been a good fit for him.

Right size, Northern Club, supportive Chairman.

He seems to have become Mr 5-3-2 and it really undersells him. It’s like he no longer bothers to evaluate the squad.

He played 4-2-3-1 at Northampton for example and Boro have been excelling in this set up under Carrick.

He’s almost become a parody of himself.

It really was a sliding doors situation him falling out with the Prince. Two sides to every story I know but how difficult would it have been to meet people in the middle? Stories about him wanting Ramsdale and nobody else I can believe and I can understand how that weakened our negotiating position. But since relegation his supposed fears have been unfounded. There was no big sell off and there has been no DoF. So not clear what the concern actually was.

But we are Sheffield United. We weren’t Aston Villa. He needed to remain attuned to that. So we couldn’t provide more money. Looking at the history of Sheffield United this is nothing new. If his signings had been solid enough he should have been confident about bouncing back and the Prince wasn’t pushing him out. He was happy to keep him.

It seems he just thought either he was better than what we were or that his personal trajectory was higher than ours. Both have proven false and in reality he would have been well placed to take us back up and carry on the journey.

It all seemed a bit unnecessary. A similar squad he would have had looks like bouncing back and Wilder could perhaps have achieved this sooner through continuity. In the meantime, he’s on the scrap heap a bit. Not sure who gives him a chance unless they are in bother and this gambling on each other.

After that first season in the PL most United fans rated him higher than Warnock. Doubt that is the case now as he’s had little success since. Even in the short stint with Huddersfield, Warnock is looking like he can have an impact. Not so Wilder.

As mentioned, hopefully he gets a gig with patience where he can build something. Something like Coventry if Robbins left.

 

[N20 Blade]

Depending on who gets promoted from league one, there are several great fits there for him from the clubs left behind - Ipswich, Derby, Bolton. It's unlikely Wednesday don't go up but if not, they would be perfect, although impossible to see it happening. Charlton were close to getting him previously, and are in a real pickle still. He's better off starting from a lower base as he did with us.

 

[Stretch]

Don't want to drag this off to another tired Wilder Thread but the covid/empty stadium excuse doesn't hold much sway any more.

The guys ego was out of control, and as much as I hate the term - he'd clearly lost the dressing room as I'm guessing the people seeing him every day had grown tired of it/him. The evidence since then is that he's really struggled to have the same impact on a bunch of footballers as he had in his time here (and at previous clubs). Until he can figure out why that is, how to put it right - he's going to be in this ever decreasing circle...

I probably should have added that there were other reasons and agree that something had gone very sour (whatever the causes) but Wilder (and the team) generally had the fans at their backs so losing that must have felt incredibly alien. Other clubs had to cope of course.

Agreed though, water under the bridge. It's just a shame that it ended the way it did for him and us.

 

[Torrix1889]

Oooh great, another Wilder thread in General Blades chat.....

 

[Dkc]

I was thinking last night, the age of managers who like a drink is well and truly over. Sir Alex famously liked his red wine, and other managers like Brian Clough, Bryan Robson, Harry Redknapp and Howard Kendall perhaps liked it a bit too much. Today most managers are more into their sports science, nutrition and fitness and going for a pint would be one of the last things they'd do. Wilder's known to like a pint. Not suggesting he drinks too much but he's probably one of a dying breed for drinking at all.

 

[Cappy]

Oooh great, another Wilder thread in General Blades chat.....

He is a General and you shall salute him, Private

 

[mattbianco1]

Wilder right now:

 

[Cappy]

That does sound like one party is holding the other to the contract against their will?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Wilder right now:

He’s got the pay rise then?

 

[robbiez666]

Oooh great, another Wilder thread in General Blades chat.....

any excuse

 

[Tezza1889]

Tbh he's exactly what they need, they have a dressing room of overpaid turds who all need flushing before they can move on.

Bigger and better managers? Have been shown the door by this shower who only care about money, they won't find another with the guts to take the players on so the next manager will know he has to play ball, or he will see the door won't he, player power indeed..

I can only imagine the cars those fucking prima donna's drive to training in, they'd be taking selfies "for the insta" during the game if you let them, reeks of selfish "fuck you" attitude that first team.

Watford, take your medicine instead of hiding behind another manager..

Edit: cheers Watford players for taking yourself out of contention this season

 

[metalblade]

Anybody taking the manager job at Watford surely knows it isn't going to last long, make sure it pays well in the short time you will be there then move on elsewhere. I'm fairly sure Wilder's bank manager will be happy.

 

[bongleblade]

From ChatGPT:


"There once was a manager named Chris
Whose job was always in a state of abyss
He'd join a new club with great hope and cheer
Only to be sacked by the end of the year.

He started at Halifax, with a smile so wide,
But soon found himself back on the outside,
Next up was Oxford, but alas, it wasn't meant to be,
And soon poor Chris was back to watching TV.

Northampton came calling, with a glimmer of hope
But again poor Chris was left unable to cope
And just when he thought he'd found his niche
He was sacked from Sheffield United, life can be such a bitch.

But Chris refused to give up, he kept going strong
He joined up with Boro and righted some wrongs
But just when he thought he'd cracked it at last
He was sacked once again, it happened so fast.

Now poor Chris is on the job hunt once more
Hoping and praying he won't be shown the door
But regardless of where he goes, or whats in his past
We'll always remember him as the man who just couldn't last.

So here's to you, Chris Wilder, with your sacking streak
We hope you find a job that lasts more than a week
And until then, we'll keep our fingers crossed
And hope your next job doesn't come at such a cost."

I critiqued your chatgpt poem using chatgpt:

The poem narrates the story of Chris Wilder, a football manager who has struggled to maintain a job due to constant sacking. The poem's tone is light-hearted, and the rhyme scheme is consistent, which makes it easy to read and follow. The use of colloquial language and humor adds to the poem's charm and appeal. The poet has done an excellent job of using the narrative to tell a story and evoke emotions.

However, the poem's main weakness is that it lacks depth and complexity. While it is an entertaining read, it does not explore the themes of resilience, determination, or even failure, which are central to Chris Wilder's story. It would have been more interesting if the poet had delved deeper into Chris's character and motivations, rather than merely describing his professional history.

Overall, the poem is a lighthearted tribute to Chris Wilder, and while it lacks depth, it is still an enjoyable read.

 

[jono_t2000]

I critiqued your chatgpt poem using chatgpt:

The poem narrates the story of Chris Wilder, a football manager who has struggled to maintain a job due to constant sacking. The poem's tone is light-hearted, and the rhyme scheme is consistent, which makes it easy to read and follow. The use of colloquial language and humor adds to the poem's charm and appeal. The poet has done an excellent job of using the narrative to tell a story and evoke emotions.

However, the poem's main weakness is that it lacks depth and complexity. While it is an entertaining read, it does not explore the themes of resilience, determination, or even failure, which are central to Chris Wilder's story. It would have been more interesting if the poet had delved deeper into Chris's character and motivations, rather than merely describing his professional history.

Overall, the poem is a lighthearted tribute to Chris Wilder, and while it lacks depth, it is still an enjoyable read.

ChatGPT blowing it's own trumpet lol.

 

[GymClassHero]

What, like Boro did?



There's a quote in Roygbiv's latest view from which describes Wilder as a "Northern Aidy Boothroyd". I think that's pretty much nailed it: Wilder's career is beginning to suggest that he hit upon some magic here which he's not ever going to replicate. It's a shame.

Exactly the same thought I had. Or Adkins with Southampton?

I think he and Knill also struck gold with the start of the whole overlapping CB tactic. Bamboozled teams initially but in the end he got found out, and was too stubborn to change.

Can't lie either, the bloke really pisses me off sometimes with his interviews - they have me cringing at times and loves apportioning blame.

 

[bongleblade]

Can't lie either, the bloke really pisses me off sometimes with his interviews - they have me cringing at times and loves apportioning blame.

Let’s face it he’d be a perfect simon jordan/roy keane/souness style pundit, could be the answer to BT sports prayers for a proper nob head on their punditry team

 

[GymClassHero]

Let’s face it he’d be a perfect simon jordan/roy keane/souness style pundit, could be the answer to BT sports prayers for a proper nob head on their punditry team

You know what... You've just found CW's calling in life fuck me imagine him, Keane and Souness presenting a televised fixture!

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Joint favourite for Hearts job (@ 4’s) with current incumbent temporary gaffer Naismith
Appointment to be made in summer

CW was reportedly very interested in Aberdeen job earlier in season prior to them temporarily appointing from within - Barry Robson (remember him?)

HOMFC also have recent ‘form’ for appointees from English clubs Stendel (Barnsley) Cathro (Newcastle) although neither were successful nor lasted long ?!?!?

Sporting Director is a bloke called Joe Savage who has significant English (off field) experience alongside Alex Neil including Norwich & Preston where he was highly thought of

Far from inconceivable that Savage knows Wilder & he has considerable influence in identifying / attracting signings

2+2 = ?

 

[jono_t2000]

Joint favourite for Hearts job (@ 4’s) with current incumbent temporary gaffer Naismith
Appointment to be made in summer

CW was reportedly very interested in Aberdeen job earlier in season prior to them temporarily appointing from within - Barry Robson (remember him?)

HOMFC also have recent ‘form’ for appointees from English clubs Stendel (Barnsley) Cathro (Newcastle) although neither were successful nor lasted long ?!?!?

Sporting Director is a bloke called Joe Savage who has significant English (off field) experience alongside Alex Neil including Norwich & Preston where he was highly thought of

Far from inconceivable that Savage knows Wilder & he has considerable influence in identifying / attracting signings

2+2 = ?

Any Scotland job outside the big 2 (which he won't ever get) is a waste of time for Wilder.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Any Scotland job outside the big 2 (which he won't ever get) is a waste of time for Wilder.

Hearts have a chance of 3rd (+ Europe) every season & frequently get to (Scottish FA) cup final (another possible European route)
15-20k home attendance guaranteed

Given Wilders current (diminishing) stock / standing may be an opportunity for (some) rehabilitation given his likely next position is somewhere like Rovrum @ best ? -with no disrespect for the ‘Millers’ intended

 

[Cappy]

He won’t go to Scotland. Worst case he is a journeyman Bruce type manager, floating around various English clubs, making plenty of dough. Moving up there won’t help him at all

 

[Nicesheffielder]

CW never been sacked,but has now found out it pays big bucks,can we have our money back you spunked

 

[HarryHaslam]

He might fancy the Hearts job, I was speaking to him and a group of friends he was with a few years back. They were from Edinburgh mixture of Hearts and Hibs fans if I remember rightly. Not sure how the friendship came about but know it’s a 30-40 year long friendship and Wilder often goes to Edinburgh. He might fancy a stint at his friends club.

 

[BobblesBlade]

Too many foreigners at Watford. For things to work for Wilder they would need to bring in at least 8 new British players and move on 70% of the team.

Watford ( London) can attract the best of the world pool of footballers.

Wilder can’t see past our shores so was never gonna work.

 

[Gavlar]

What, like Boro did?



There's a quote in Roygbiv's latest view from which describes Wilder as a "Northern Aidy Boothroyd". I think that's pretty much nailed it: Wilder's career is beginning to suggest that he hit upon some magic here which he's not ever going to replicate. It's a shame.

Aidy Boothroyd is already northern. He was born in Eccleshill according to wiki.