Hecky, great manager

[CaptainMorgans]

What do you mean about the media peesona?

I think personalities matter in football and he can come across as a bit abrasive / deflective / awkward in interviews.

Again, it's not a problem when you're winning every week. The percepton from fans will be "he's doing what he needs to do" or "he doesn't want to give anything away" etc... and that's fine.
However, I think that attitude would soon shift if we were on a losing streak.

It's not something we need to worry about right now.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

He is a bit boring don’t you think? I find myself never watching his interviews, which is a difference from Wilder who had some absolute cult classics even when he was talking shite

Yes he can be dull.

 

[Bell4]

He's doing really well, it's very hard to dispute that.

Yes, he has a squad that should be in the top 6 of the division but he has us 2nd with a healthy gap to 3rd and we've spent large swathes of the season with half our squad missing with injuries.

Whatever he's doing on the training pitch seems to be working. We're great from set pieces and the strongest team in the division defensively. We look very organised and we're very difficult to beat.

He's improved players. You look at Bogle, Lowe, RND, Berge, Norwood, McAtee, McBurnie, Jebbison... they've all taken strides as individuals. Not many managers are that good at doing this.

He also seems to be very well respected and well liked by the players.

If he has weak spots, you'd look at:
(1) the fitness & conditioning of the squad. I don't think the volume of injuries can be considered all bad luck (though I know some do) and
(2) his in-game management. I still think he could be using his bench more effectively in games. In fairness, he has been better since the World Cup break since he's got some bodies back.
(3) his media persona. It's not an issue when you're doing well, but it can be when the chips are down.

The points haul, in tough circumstances, has been brilliant though. And I really like his choice of assistants too.

Good post

His media persona is really good

Forthright ,clear , no bullshit and not up himself when we win or blaming others when we lose .

If that’s one of his areas for improvement- we don’t have any probs - trust me

 

[Bell4]

Don’t know if he’s a great manager or not


What I would be interested in knowing , and of course we never will , is what Peps , Artetas , Contis , record would have been if they had been managing Utd since PH first game v Bristol City ?

 

[raimond]

I agree wholeheartedly.

Although everybody referring to him as "Hecky" is starting to make my dick itch.

Could be that but I'd still get it checked out pal.

 

[Dkc]

I’m wondering if it’s for the money. Whatever we earn is in addition to what we’ve budgeted for.

It would be consistent with the rumours flying around about us being really skint.

 

[Gavlar]

I agree wholeheartedly.

Although everybody referring to him as "Hecky" is starting to make my dick itch.

There’s a cream for that.

 

[wak1889]

I agree wholeheartedly.

Although everybody referring to him as "Hecky" is starting to make my dick itch.

I'm not convinced the 2 are related

 

[Katzenjammer]

I'm not convinced the 2 are related

I'm starting to wish I'd used a different figure of speech. This thread hasn't gone very well for me...

 

[wak1889]

I'm starting to wish I'd used a different figure of speech. This thread hasn't gone very well for me...

To be fair it drives me mental when people use players nick names as if they are mates with them, like when they say ,Didsy instead of mcgoldrick, if I had a nickname that my mates used and a complete stranger called it me id feel uncomfortable

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Good post

His media persona is really good

Forthright ,clear , no bullshit and not up himself when we win or blaming others when we lose .

If that’s one of his areas for improvement- we don’t have any probs - trust me

Lots will (and have) agreed with you.
It's a very subjective one.
I know lots that don't like his interviews, but there will be many that appreciate his forthright approach.

 

[dillis]

No chance, absolutely disagree. We have by far and away the best squad in the league. He is a great motivator though and ill give him that. Anything other than promotion this season with this squad is a failure.
I think a “class” proven manager in charge and we’re already promoted. We wouldn’t have thrown two points away at QPR for example not playing McAtee.
Why play McAtee away from home today and not on Tuesday!?

UTB

 

[BigBed]

Let's all club together and buy him z new jumper!
That baby shit brown one has had its day!

 

[Dkc]

The conditions towards the end were atrocious. Imagine if Bogle or Sharp had limped off injured. We wouldn't be describing the team selection as a managerial masterstroke then. I'd have given the academy lads more time.

 

[wavy-blade]

 

[espoo blade]

Jesus wept...we've cruised through a reasonably tough 3rd round tie away from home without really getting out of 2nd gear and some of our fans are throwing Hecky under the bus for things that might hypothetically have happened. ffs.

 

[Shoes_On]

To be fair it drives me mental when people use players nick names as if they are mates with them, like when they say ,Didsy instead of mcgoldrick, if I had a nickname that my mates used and a complete stranger called it me id feel uncomfortable

Good point, Tallywacker

 

[CrookesBlade]

The fact people were criticising the manager for picking our better players is a bit mad. Especially given we have no midweeks this month. Not playing players isn't necessarily beneficial for their fitness.

Resting players seems to have boiled over into a full on obsession among some (see those calling for Kyle Walker to be left out of the Senegal game so he would be “fresh” to play France).

You’d like to think it’s not generally beyond professional footballers not currently injured to play a match once a week during the season.

 

[robbiez666]

Resting players seems to have boiled over into a full on obsession among some (see those calling for Kyle Walker to be left out of the Senegal game so he would be “fresh” to play France).

You’d like to think it’s not generally beyond professional footballers not currently injured to play a match once a week during the season.

Also a lack of understanding that resting players can impact on their fitness and might even make them more prone to injury.

 

[Champagneblade]

No chance, absolutely disagree. We have by far and away the best squad in the league. He is a great motivator though and ill give him that. Anything other than promotion this season with this squad is a failure.
I think a “class” proven manager in charge and we’re already promoted. We wouldn’t have thrown two points away at QPR for example not playing McAtee.
Why play McAtee away from home today and not on Tuesday!?

UTB

Recent form including Millwall see us having won 9 out of the last 11, losing only once. Pro rata that over 46 matches and that gives you 117 points.

By all means look for constant improvement but Sir Alex, Jose and Pep would have been delighted with that sort of form.

Even the best managers draw games. Maybe Hecky wouldn't have dropped two points at home to Everton had he been Man City manager?

 

[Sheffsteel]

Hecky is an average manager (which is OK) but he has some big advantages over others.

1: He already knew the club, knew the players, knew Wilders methods and knew the owner before he got the job.
Jukanovic's record suggests he's a better manager but his style of play wasn't working where as Hecky has simply made us play quicker and more direct.
It's a style closer to Wilder but he already knew the players and knows what style suits them best.

2: He was given a trial run as manager in the PL with zero pressure
3: He was re-appointed as manager replacing Jokanovic with little pressure.
4: He has appointed a good backroom team who have that human touch, you do feel Hecky, McCall and Lester are all "good blokes".
5: Hecky is a local lad, down to earth and his backroom team are all local and ex United players.
6: He came down with a great squad and does have some high quality players.
7: His media persona is totally opposite to Wilder. Now that's a bad thing but also could be a good thing.
Hecky is more boring but he's also calmer and less emotional less passionate than Wilder.
Wilder was more honest and open where as Hecky is vague and doesn't reveal much but sometimes that's a positive.
Think if he was honest and specific regards injuries then it might make our medical team look incompetent, so to prevent criticism it's best to say little.

Overall he's done well, so no complaints at all, apart from maybe he's too conservative and similar to Gareth Southgate regards subs.
Always get the feeling he decides what subs he's going to make and on what minute pre match and he sticks to it regardless of what's happening on the pitch.

Also don't know how anyone can say he's a great manager when he's not achieved anything yet.
If he loses a few then he'll quickly become a crap manager, so think its best to wait until the end of the season, he's been excellent to date though.

 

[Charlieblade]

He's doing really well, it's very hard to dispute that.

Yes, he has a squad that should be in the top 6 of the division but he has us 2nd with a healthy gap to 3rd and we've spent large swathes of the season with half our squad missing with injuries.

Whatever he's doing on the training pitch seems to be working. We're great from set pieces and the strongest team in the division defensively. We look very organised and we're very difficult to beat.

He's improved players. You look at Bogle, Lowe, RND, Berge, Norwood, McAtee, McBurnie, Jebbison... they've all taken strides as individuals. Not many managers are that good at doing this.

He also seems to be very well respected and well liked by the players.

If he has weak spots, you'd look at:
(1) the fitness & conditioning of the squad. I don't think the volume of injuries can be considered all bad luck (though I know some do) and
(2) his in-game management. I still think he could be using his bench more effectively in games. In fairness, he has been better since the World Cup break since he's got some bodies back.
(3) his media persona. It's not an issue when you're doing well, but it can be when the chips are down.

The points haul, in tough circumstances, has been brilliant though. And I really like his choice of assistants too.

I like PH. Just like most fans, I don’t always agree with his starting line ups, or his use of subs.

We don’t have the information that he has, and he does not share his master plan with me, but I am very happy with the position we are in, considering all the problems he has to deal with, individually and collectively.
Sometimes he agrees with my thinking, but that must be just him being lucky.

 

[John Street West Terrace]

Beating teams right left and cebtre.
Beating a tough, really ugly, Millwall easily today makes me reaffirm, Paul H is an excellent manager with masses of nous.
He really knows his tactics does this bloke.
Excellent team United are.

Thanks Hecky .. keep up the good work

 

[Nightsweats]

Using the word "great" to describe our manager is symptomatic of our society's dumbing down in describing what in reallity is "good" at best.Describing him as great puts him in the same company as Clough, Ferguson, Wenger, Ancelotti and Busby to name just a few. Anyone stating he's on a par with any of them needs examining. Win the cup and league double this season and there's a conversation to be had on the use of great re him.

 

[BigBed]

bit of proof if it were required.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

• Saved us from embarrassing PL records when Wilder left
• Took us to the play offs when Slav failed miserabley
• Now on verge of PL promotion in his first full season

56% win ratio.

Not done bad in his spell has he?
King Hecky

 

[Nick Jansky]

• Saved us from embarrassing PL records when Wilder left
• Took us to the play offs when Slav failed miserabley
• Now on verge of PL promotion in his first full season

56% win ratio.

Not done bad in his spell has he?
King Hecky

What he did at the end of the PL season doesn’t get the plaudits it deserves in my opinion. Without the ship being steadied in the way it was the squad had the potential to continue to plummet. He proved himself capable of managing in the PL.

Since then, the way he has kept the squad focused despite everything happening off the pitch has been a masterclass. When we look at the injury situation before Christmas and the sheer number of players absent at one stage it’s amazing we are where we are. That’s without the embargo, training pitch issues, takeover talk & the rest of it.

McCall & Lester also play a huge part, two really good guys and the players often cite their roles in their development. But Hecky sets the overall tone. I don’t see how he could have done any better than he has.

 

[Tom Bott]

to prevent criticism it's best to say little.

The fatal error that Mr Fallowfield made was to do the opposite.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

What he did at the end of the PL season doesn’t get the plaudits it deserves in my opinion. Without the ship being steadied in the way it was the squad had the potential to continue to plummet. He proved himself capable of managing in the PL.

Since then, the way he has kept the squad focused despite everything happening off the pitch has been a masterclass. When we look at the injury situation before Christmas and the sheer number of players absent at one stage it’s amazing we are where we are. That’s without the embargo, training pitch issues, takeover talk & the rest of it.

McCall & Lester also play a huge part, two really good guys and the players often cite their roles in their development. But Hecky sets the overall tone. I don’t see how he could have done any better than he has.

3 wins outta them 11 PL games and scoring a few goals definitely was better than it looks agree with all your post.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Thanks Hecky .. keep up the good work

"Listen, we always expect and I tell the players just go aaht and do yer best.."
'Iliman Ndiaye, again a great goal today..'
"Listen, yeah, we have a few individuals here with rare ability."
'Great goal wasn't it..?'
"Yes that's what we expect from the team and Iliman is a good player, listen there are many good players here... "