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Hecky in the presser:

“Everyone's got a price, we know that. Everyone.

“But I keep saying, Steve [Bettis, chief executive] sat here and said we don't have to sell anyone. And credit to them, we haven't. We want to keep the players we have and see what we can do this season.”

“We've had a decent start; those two in particular [Berge and Ndiaye] have contributed but a few more have stepped up,” Heckingbottom added.
 
Sheffsteel said:
Might seem a dumb question but WHY?
The worse thing any club can do is reward players based on potential.

McBurnie and Brewster were also “the next big thing”.
We gave them massive salaries because we (and the experts) all thought they’d be so good.
Hate how players want the money up front before delivering anything.
So it seems weird how our fans think it’s a good idea to over inflate salaries for players with high potential.

We should give him what we can afford, which wouldn’t be much, whilst we’re in the Champiomship.
Suspect any pay offer will need to wait until next year, to see which division we’re in.

Also bear in mind he rarely plays 90 minutes and always seems to cramp up.
He’s also pretty inconsistent, in the previous game against Sunderland he didn’t do much.
Even this season I doubt he’ll be a regular and will probably be subbed on and off with Khadra.
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Take your point but since he signed his contract at the start of last season he has established himself in our first team as arguably our most important player and has become a full international. It would be unusual in these circumstances not to offer him new terms to reward his progress. Not doing so would be likely to piss him off. Not to mention tying him down to a longer term deal will enhance his value. From memory he signed for 3 years at the start of last season, so he would only have 12 months left at the end of this season. He really doesn’t strike me as the sort of individual who would toss it off if he was offered a new contract.
 
Withington Blade said:
Take your point but since he signed his contract at the start of last season he has established himself in our first team as arguably our most important player and has become a full international. It would be unusual in these circumstances not to offer him new terms to reward his progress. Not doing so would be likely to piss him off. Not to mention tying him down to a longer term deal will enhance his value. From memory he signed for 3 years at the start of last season, so he would only have 12 months left at the end of this season. He really doesn’t strike me as the sort of individual who would toss it off if he was offered a new contract.
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I remember Brooks going through the gears pretty rapidly contract wise didn’t he sign 2 or 3 in one year during his breakthrough season.
 
Gin&Juice said:
N’Diaye gets 20+ this season as a 10/SS.

Don’t think we’re in danger of selling him as he’s not been around for long, but at the end of the season, unless we’re promoted he’s going for big money.

Love most about him, not the skills and the technical ability, but the fact he works hard off the ball and battles. These will get him to the very top.
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I can't imagine anyone will offer enough for him yet - January, however could be a different story
 
If we do not go up this season
I can see us losing Berge and Ndiaya at the very least although we will receive good money which will enable us to cash flow the club and invest in more young talent
 
Sheffsteel said:
Selling Berge and N'Diaye this season would bring back memories of January 98.
We're were doing so well and looking good for promotion.
We had Spackman as manager and played an attractive style of football, it was a great time to be a Blade.

Then we sell our 2 best strikers Deane and Fjortoft on the same day in the January transfer window.

Nigel Spackman is so angry with the board he ends up resigning in March 98
and we only end up finishing 6th in the league losing 3-2 on aggregate against Sunderland in the play-off semi finals.
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Yes I remember that what a let down blew our chances of promotion out of the water in one day. Surly we can't repeat that mistake can we? As things stand we are in a great place and if we play the United way (on the front foot) I can not see any club matching us. Fabulous pay day if we achieve promotion which must be taken into consideration if we sell our star assets and fail what cost will that have on our bank balance . Selling will boost our balance sheet short term but failing to achieve promotion will damage it long term. A gamble yes but playing safe will not achieve nothing and lets not forget if we do fail we still have our gems to cash in anyway.
 
Withington Blade said:
Take your point but since he signed his contract at the start of last season he has established himself in our first team as arguably our most important player and has become a full international. It would be unusual in these circumstances not to offer him new terms to reward his progress. Not doing so would be likely to piss him off. Not to mention tying him down to a longer term deal will enhance his value. From memory he signed for 3 years at the start of last season, so he would only have 12 months left at the end of this season. He really doesn’t strike me as the sort of individual who would toss it off if he was offered a new contract.
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His contract might well have been incentivised based on first team appearances and international call ups so he might have already had a significant increase.
 
Withington Blade said:
Take your point but since he signed his contract at the start of last season he has established himself in our first team as arguably our most important player and has become a full international. It would be unusual in these circumstances not to offer him new terms to reward his progress. Not doing so would be likely to piss him off. Not to mention tying him down to a longer term deal will enhance his value. From memory he signed for 3 years at the start of last season, so he would only have 12 months left at the end of this season. He really doesn’t strike me as the sort of individual who would toss it off if he was offered a new contract.
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Unless of course those incentives were tied into this contract that may also trigger an extension.....
 
Nick Jansky said:
His contract might well have been incentivised based on first team appearances and international call ups so he might have already had a significant increase.
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Possibly although I think he’d made one senior appearance when he signed his contract, so I doubt a full international call-up was a serious consideration
 
Kozzy_is_my_Dad said:
He is absolutely INTEGRAL to how we play.

You can already see that he is EASILY our best player.
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Agree.

Was interesting to contrast and compare N'Dieye with McBurnie last night.

Both worked hard, good to see
but when N'Dieye received the ball, his 1st touch was on point, the ball stuck to his feet. If there was no one to pass to then he'd run with the ball and even had the odd dribble. There were times last night when he was surrounded by 3 defenders in a tight area and he still tried to dribble attempting to find some free space.

but when McB received the ball, sometimes it bounced off him and we lost possession. He tried passes and they were often misplaced.
There were a lot of physical challenges causing McB to fall down a lot. Great goal, great attitude and work rate but McB's quality is much lower than N'Dieye's.
 
I am worried after his utterly mindblowingly pointless booking last night that he's in hock to a betting cartel!

He needs to cut some of his petulance out, but is improving with every game.
 
Sheffsteel said:
Agree.

Was interesting to contrast and compare N'Dieye with McBurnie last night.

Both worked hard, good to see
but when N'Dieye received the ball, his 1st touch was on point, the ball stuck to his feet. If there was no one to pass to then he'd run with the ball and even had the odd dribble. There were times last night when he was surrounded by 3 defenders in a tight area and he still tried to dribble attempting to find some free space.

but when McB received the ball, sometimes it bounced off him and we lost possession. He tried passes and they were often misplaced.
There were a lot of physical challenges causing McB to fall down a lot. Great goal, great attitude and work rate but McB's quality is much lower than N'Dieye's.
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I thought IN was outstanding friday night. OM has rightly received a lot of attention for his recent upturn in performances and of course getting the goal but the skills Iliman showed were breathtaking at times. That lad is heading for the top (hopefully in a red and white shirt!)
 



There's a big article on Iliman in the Torygraph; I'll try to copy it below:

Iliman Ndiaye: The Senegalese livewire electrifying Sheffield United's promotion push​

Raised on beach football and toughened up on loan at Hyde, the French-born youngster is now bullying players in the Championship

Singing I-I-Iliman Ndiaye,” filled the air, a thousand or so Sheffield United fans who had started the August Bank Holiday with a Friday-night trip to Kenilworth Road roaring in unison. Oli McBurnie might have broken his 43 league game goal drought to earn the point that kept United temporarily at the Championship’s summit, but it was his strike partner, Ndiaye, who provided the electricity.
For 83 minutes at Luton, Ndiaye was a livewire, seemingly everywhere. It was his snapshot that forced the corner from which McBurnie’s equaliser came. Minutes before, in a deft touch, Ndiaye rolled away from Jordan Clark on the edge of the area in a moment of quality that could have graced any stage.
In a below-par team performance, Ndiaye shone. A perfect blend of trickery, hassling and harrying. Of running the channels and dropping deep to link play.
“He does all his best work behind the opposition’s midfield in those tight spaces. It’s where the most gifted players operate,” Paul Heckingbottom, the Sheffield United manager, said.

Ndiaye has scored three goals so far this season. His first came in a victory over Millwall, with Murray Wallace bounced off the ball.
“He looks physically inferior to a lot of centre-halves,” David McGurk, Ndiaye’s manager during a 2020 loan stint at Hyde United, said.
“But we saw him push 6ft 2in, 15st defenders off the ball. It’s the same in the Championship; he is bullying players that he shouldn’t dominate.”
Heckingbottom added: “His technique looking after the ball is phenomenal. That allows him to focus on his low centre of gravity and natural strength.”
Then came a contrasting brace against Blackburn. The first was a deflection off his backside, but the second was – like a solo effort at Craven Cottage last season – special.
Collecting the ball just inside opposition territory, Ndiaye skipped past Tyler Morton, drove forward, threw in a stepover and finished from 20 yards.
“He was in a fantastic defensive position and won the ball back himself,” Heckingbottom explained.
“That’s why I was always championing him; because of the work he does without the ball.”
Born in Rouen to a French mother and a Senegalese father, Ndiaye spent a year in Marseille’s youth set-up.
But aged 11, the family moved to Senegal and Ndiaye’s diet was rich with beach football.
Three years later, the family uprooted to London and, at 16, Ndiaye joined Boreham Wood’s PASE Academy, a centre designed to allow teenagers to continue their footballing development while also focusing on education. Ndiaye’s focus, though, was football.
Having played a part in five national titles between 2017 and 2019, Ndiaye departed for Sheffield.
He had not made a first-team appearance. Initially, though, the consensus was that Ndiaye would not make it at Bramall Lane.

'He got kicked and gave as good as he took'​

But McGurk was searching for talent to bolster his Northern Premier League squad, and Ndiaye’s worth ethic caught the eye. Hyde’s initial loan approach was rebuffed, with the hope being that interest higher up the pyramid would come.
But when that failed to materialise, McGurk tried his luck again.
“You got the feeling he wasn’t one of the really highly rated youngsters at Sheffield United,” McGurk recalls. “But after one session, we knew we had someone way above our level. The group appreciated that straight away.”

After nine games and one goal, Ndiaye’s loan spell was cut short by the pandemic. But his impression was lasting.
“He was just hungry,” McGurk said. “There was no prima donna about him.
“He got kicked, he got back up, he gave as much as he took.
“It was all just down to his attitude. The kid got the train across from Sheffield, would then get home late and was into training with Sheffield United in the morning. To do that speaks volumes. He really threw himself into it. You don’t always get that with young players coming from a higher background.”
Heckingbottom had worked with Ndiaye in the under-23s and gave him a Premier League debut – his only top-flight appearance to date – in the first match of a temporary stint at the helm following Chris Wilder’s mutual departure in March 2021. Post-relegation, Ndiaye netted twice on his first start under Slavisa Jokanovic, who Heckingbottom then replaced permanently.
He finished the season with seven goals and two assists in the equivalent of just over 20 games.
A Senegal bow came in the summer, but more importantly to Sheffield United fans, Ndiaye flourishing this season could be the key to promotion.
 
themaninblack said:
There's a big article on Iliman in the Torygraph; I'll try to copy it below:

Iliman Ndiaye: The Senegalese livewire electrifying Sheffield United's promotion push​

Raised on beach football and toughened up on loan at Hyde, the French-born youngster is now bullying players in the Championship

Singing I-I-Iliman Ndiaye,” filled the air, a thousand or so Sheffield United fans who had started the August Bank Holiday with a Friday-night trip to Kenilworth Road roaring in unison. Oli McBurnie might have broken his 43 league game goal drought to earn the point that kept United temporarily at the Championship’s summit, but it was his strike partner, Ndiaye, who provided the electricity.
For 83 minutes at Luton, Ndiaye was a livewire, seemingly everywhere. It was his snapshot that forced the corner from which McBurnie’s equaliser came. Minutes before, in a deft touch, Ndiaye rolled away from Jordan Clark on the edge of the area in a moment of quality that could have graced any stage.
In a below-par team performance, Ndiaye shone. A perfect blend of trickery, hassling and harrying. Of running the channels and dropping deep to link play.
“He does all his best work behind the opposition’s midfield in those tight spaces. It’s where the most gifted players operate,” Paul Heckingbottom, the Sheffield United manager, said.

Ndiaye has scored three goals so far this season. His first came in a victory over Millwall, with Murray Wallace bounced off the ball.
“He looks physically inferior to a lot of centre-halves,” David McGurk, Ndiaye’s manager during a 2020 loan stint at Hyde United, said.
“But we saw him push 6ft 2in, 15st defenders off the ball. It’s the same in the Championship; he is bullying players that he shouldn’t dominate.”
Heckingbottom added: “His technique looking after the ball is phenomenal. That allows him to focus on his low centre of gravity and natural strength.”
Then came a contrasting brace against Blackburn. The first was a deflection off his backside, but the second was – like a solo effort at Craven Cottage last season – special.
Collecting the ball just inside opposition territory, Ndiaye skipped past Tyler Morton, drove forward, threw in a stepover and finished from 20 yards.
“He was in a fantastic defensive position and won the ball back himself,” Heckingbottom explained.
“That’s why I was always championing him; because of the work he does without the ball.”
Born in Rouen to a French mother and a Senegalese father, Ndiaye spent a year in Marseille’s youth set-up.
But aged 11, the family moved to Senegal and Ndiaye’s diet was rich with beach football.
Three years later, the family uprooted to London and, at 16, Ndiaye joined Boreham Wood’s PASE Academy, a centre designed to allow teenagers to continue their footballing development while also focusing on education. Ndiaye’s focus, though, was football.
Having played a part in five national titles between 2017 and 2019, Ndiaye departed for Sheffield.
He had not made a first-team appearance. Initially, though, the consensus was that Ndiaye would not make it at Bramall Lane.

'He got kicked and gave as good as he took'​

But McGurk was searching for talent to bolster his Northern Premier League squad, and Ndiaye’s worth ethic caught the eye. Hyde’s initial loan approach was rebuffed, with the hope being that interest higher up the pyramid would come.
But when that failed to materialise, McGurk tried his luck again.
“You got the feeling he wasn’t one of the really highly rated youngsters at Sheffield United,” McGurk recalls. “But after one session, we knew we had someone way above our level. The group appreciated that straight away.”

After nine games and one goal, Ndiaye’s loan spell was cut short by the pandemic. But his impression was lasting.
“He was just hungry,” McGurk said. “There was no prima donna about him.
“He got kicked, he got back up, he gave as much as he took.
“It was all just down to his attitude. The kid got the train across from Sheffield, would then get home late and was into training with Sheffield United in the morning. To do that speaks volumes. He really threw himself into it. You don’t always get that with young players coming from a higher background.”
Heckingbottom had worked with Ndiaye in the under-23s and gave him a Premier League debut – his only top-flight appearance to date – in the first match of a temporary stint at the helm following Chris Wilder’s mutual departure in March 2021. Post-relegation, Ndiaye netted twice on his first start under Slavisa Jokanovic, who Heckingbottom then replaced permanently.
He finished the season with seven goals and two assists in the equivalent of just over 20 games.
A Senegal bow came in the summer, but more importantly to Sheffield United fans, Ndiaye flourishing this season could be the key to promotion.
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Thanks for posting this. Enjoyed the read.
 
Sheffsteel said:
Might seem a dumb question but WHY?
The worse thing any club can do is reward players based on potential.

McBurnie and Brewster were also “the next big thing”.
We gave them massive salaries because we (and the experts) all thought they’d be so good.
Hate how players want the money up front before delivering anything.
So it seems weird how our fans think it’s a good idea to over inflate salaries for players with high potential.

We should give him what we can afford, which wouldn’t be much, whilst we’re in the Champiomship.
Suspect any pay offer will need to wait until next year, to see which division we’re in.

Also bear in mind he rarely plays 90 minutes and always seems to cramp up.
He’s also pretty inconsistent, in the previous game against Sunderland he didn’t do much.
Even this season I doubt he’ll be a regular and will probably be subbed on and off with Khadra.
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Talk about missing the point. There’s a time and place for points like this, but this is not it.
 
Got to be given a contract in line with Berge, Sharp, Egan and Anel

No point messing around anymore, if we lose players it should only be to those clubs who we cant argue about if they come in for him.

Sick of losing players to Birmingham, Hull and other non descript clubs who will pay a bit more and then get the benefit of selling to the giant clubs a year or two later.
 
Did anyone watch the game on Sky last night and stay tuned in for for the post-match comments and interviews?
When asked about Iliman's contract situation Hecky seemed way more positive than he has previously, saying obviously that he wants him to stay "as long as I'm here" and "let's get him some more money while he's with us". The beaming smile said it all, and it was in stark contrast to the "his agent has other ideas for him" interviews of last week.
Cutting back to the studio, Sweetman-Kirk was asked if she had any inside info - again, beaming smile and the comment "I can't say too much".
I've not seen this mentioned elsewhere on here, and didn't want to start yet another new thread!
Anyone else pick up on this?!
Do we think a new contract will be announced this week? 🤞🤞🤞
 
Balti Pie said:
Did anyone watch the game on Sky last night and stay tuned in for for the post-match comments and interviews?
When asked about Iliman's contract situation Hecky seemed way more positive than he has previously, saying obviously that he wants him to stay "as long as I'm here" and "let's get him some more money while he's with us". The beaming smile said it all, and it was in stark contrast to the "his agent has other ideas for him" interviews of last week.
Cutting back to the studio, Sweetman-Kirk was asked if she had any inside info - again, beaming smile and the comment "I can't say too much".
I've not seen this mentioned elsewhere on here, and didn't want to start yet another new thread!
Anyone else pick up on this?!
Do we think a new contract will be announced this week? 🤞🤞🤞
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Yes it did seem they knew something including Michael Browns comments
 
Balti Pie said:
Did anyone watch the game on Sky last night and stay tuned in for for the post-match comments and interviews?
When asked about Iliman's contract situation Hecky seemed way more positive than he has previously, saying obviously that he wants him to stay "as long as I'm here" and "let's get him some more money while he's with us". The beaming smile said it all, and it was in stark contrast to the "his agent has other ideas for him" interviews of last week.
Cutting back to the studio, Sweetman-Kirk was asked if she had any inside info - again, beaming smile and the comment "I can't say too much".
I've not seen this mentioned elsewhere on here, and didn't want to start yet another new thread!
Anyone else pick up on this?!
Do we think a new contract will be announced this week? 🤞🤞🤞
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I'll be over the fucking moon if he signs a new deal
 
Balti Pie said:
Did anyone watch the game on Sky last night and stay tuned in for for the post-match comments and interviews?
When asked about Iliman's contract situation Hecky seemed way more positive than he has previously, saying obviously that he wants him to stay "as long as I'm here" and "let's get him some more money while he's with us". The beaming smile said it all, and it was in stark contrast to the "his agent has other ideas for him" interviews of last week.
Cutting back to the studio, Sweetman-Kirk was asked if she had any inside info - again, beaming smile and the comment "I can't say too much".
I've not seen this mentioned elsewhere on here, and didn't want to start yet another new thread!
Anyone else pick up on this?!
Do we think a new contract will be announced this week? 🤞🤞🤞
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No, didn't see that, but sounds good!
 
Balti Pie said:
Did anyone watch the game on Sky last night and stay tuned in for for the post-match comments and interviews?
When asked about Iliman's contract situation Hecky seemed way more positive than he has previously, saying obviously that he wants him to stay "as long as I'm here" and "let's get him some more money while he's with us". The beaming smile said it all, and it was in stark contrast to the "his agent has other ideas for him" interviews of last week.
Cutting back to the studio, Sweetman-Kirk was asked if she had any inside info - again, beaming smile and the comment "I can't say too much".
I've not seen this mentioned elsewhere on here, and didn't want to start yet another new thread!
Anyone else pick up on this?!
Do we think a new contract will be announced this week? 🤞🤞🤞
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I couldn't listen to what Sweetman-Kirk was saying, I was too put out by the fact that her and Michael Brown had exactly the same pair of trainers on and it impaired my hearing.
 



He seems to have got even better, following the World Cup. As others have said, it's his work rate and ability to keep hold of and win the ball back that makes him really stand out. There was 5/6 occasions last night when he did this, in circumstances that were seemingly against his favour.
 
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