Injuries

[Belvedere Blade]

Sheffield United striker Oli McBurnie tipped to face Huddersfield Town after surgery

Paul Heckingbottom, the Sheffield United manager, has predicted Oli McBurnie should be fit and available for selection when the Championship resumes following the World Cup break.

www.thestar.co.uk

 

[JayGreen17]

Assuming we're not going to hear anymore from the club re: injuries until after the World Cup now, here's the final round up going into the break.

Bad News:
Our customary injury a game went to Jack Robinson. Another hamstring injury.
PH's explanation is that "it's just the way it's going" and won't publicly accept that they need to conduct a review of their conditioning methods. Hopefully internally things are different.
He also said that Robinson has been over-played whilst not fully fit. Bizarre then, that he didn't rotate him with Clark at all over these last few weeks? Even more so given Robinson's form.

None of the midweek "doubts" from the Rotherham game made the squad. Again, no surprise there... they never do.
Worryingly, the diagnosis for those lads didn't sound too promising either...

• McBurnie has done his ankle ligaments.
• Ahmedhodzic has an illness that will "rule him out for a while."
• Fleck has swelling around the area that he broke his leg.

When asked whether they'll all be back on 10th December, Heckingbottom gave a slightly churlish, deflective response...

... I know everyone has their own views on Hecky's fibs and I think I'm somewhere in the middle.
I'm certainly not asking for him to name his XI for the weekend, but I do think it's a bit unreasonable to share nothing with the fans.
For instance, telling us Tommy Doyle and Ciaran Clark are 50/50 for about 3+ weeks running is just a blatant lie.
I wouldn't want him to "put a date" on it as he says, but a vague "he'll be out for a couple / few weeks" type answer would be a lot better to manage fan expectations.

I also hope somebody from the club reveals a bit more about Anel's long-term illness as that sounds potentially pretty ominous.
My thoughts immediately went towards David Brooks and (going back way further) Simon Francis' glandular fever.

Good news:
We've made it to the World Cup break and guaranteed to be in the top two.
We have 4 weeks off.
To the best of my knowledge, only Adam Davies (Wales - WC), Iliman Ndiaye (Senegal - WC) and - ridiculously - John Egan (Ireland - friendlies) will be playing any competitive games.
It's come at a great time for us. We have 13 out injured and I'm hopeful that at least half will be back for 10th December.


O McBurnie - 10th December 2022 - ankle ligaments / hernia op

J Fleck - 10th December 2022 - knock to leg

T Doyle - 10th December 2022 - calf injury

J Bogle - 10th December 2022 (2 months) - minor knee operation

M Lowe - 10th December 2022 (3 months) - hamstring

S Berge - 10th December 2022 (3 months) - ankle ligaments

I Coulibaly - 10th December 2022 (4 months) - knee ligaments

A Ahmedhodzic - January 2023 (6 weeks) - illness

J Robinson - January 2023 - (2 months) - hamstring

J O'Connell - January 2023 (2.5 years) - knee

D Jebbison - February 2023 (4 months) - ankle ligaments

R Brewster - March 2023 (4 months) - hamstring surgery

R Norrington-Davies - March 2023 (5 months) - hamstring surgery

Anel will be back after the World Cup… you heard it here first…

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

O'Connell
Robinson
Anel
Bogle
Lowe
RND
Fleck
Doyle
Couilbaly
Berge
Brewster
McBurnie
Jebbison

The magical 13. Who's making first game after WC then?

 

[finlaytheblade]

Anel will be back after the World Cup… you heard it here first…

Why do you think Hecki is very cagey regarding injuries?.
I maybe wrong but I think it's simple !
If it makes the opposition wonder who we are going to field ! Surely it is worth it with the problems we have,
Could be its a small percentage we benefit from
if that's the case im happy to be in the dark until kick off.
Does it really to matter to us fans knowing who has made it or who is out .
I lmagine Cardiff were as surprised as us fans with the scratch squad we put out.
Great result and maybe Hecki's tactic contributed in a small way to us winning the match !
For sure it didn't harm our chances.

 

[Nightsweats]

Why do you think Hecki is very cagey regarding injuries?.
I maybe wrong but I think it's simple !
If it makes the opposition wonder who we are going to field ! Surely it is worth it with the problems we have,
Could be its a small percentage we benefit from
if that's the case im happy to be in the dark until kick off.
Does it really to matter to us fans knowing who has made it or who is out .
I lmagine Cardiff were as surprised as us fans with the scratch squad we put out.
Great result and maybe Hecki's tactic contributed in a small way to us winning the match !
For sure it didn't harm our chances.

I think you are barking mad to accept the fact we are permanently decimated by largely non contact injuries and any questions directed to the manager as to why are met by abrasive non comments.

 

[SwissBlade]

Said he got Injured as he's played too many games which is weird seeing as Clark was clearly fit enough to play yesterday

Clark isn’t our player though is he? so perhaps his parent club had a say

 

[Pollingtonblade]

To get us 2nd In the table at this stage with us getting a player injury in nearly every single game is nothing short of phenomenal. If Heck could have combined last seasons home form and this seasons away form we could have had another 100 point season.

 

[Westran]

O'Connell
Robinson
Anel
Bogle
Lowe
RND
Fleck
Doyle
Couilbaly
Berge
Brewster
McBurnie
Jebbison

The magical 13. Who's making first game after WC then?

Anel
Bogle
Lowe
Fleck
Doyle
Couilbaly
Berge
McBurnie

Wouldn't that be a brucy bonus, 6 first choice players back in contention and rested

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Clark isn’t our player though is he? so perhaps his parent club had a say

He's out of contract at the end of the season. They have no vested interest in Clark's future.

 

[SwissBlade]

He's out of contract at the end of the season. They have no vested interest in Clark's future.

But he’s still their player not ours.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

But he’s still their player not ours.

Well yes, but they have zero reason to be an over-involved parent club... it's quite clearly a PH decision, not a Newcastle one.
Clark's 32/33 and leaving at the end of the season. Our loan arrangement is just to offset some of his wages in his final year.

 

[SwissBlade]

Well yes, but they have zero reason to be an over-involved parent club... it's quite clearly a PH decision, not a Newcastle one.
Clark's 32/33 and leaving at the end of the season. Our loan arrangement is just to offset some of his wages in his final year.

Insurance, contractual, medical care…. But yeah no reason at all.

You and I have no idea on whether it’s a Newcastle or a PH decision…

And perhaps the decision at SUFC comes from above PH…

We also have a duty of care to all players

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Insurance, contractual, medical care…. But yeah no reason at all.

You and I have no idea on whether it’s a Newcastle or a PH decision…

And perhaps the decision at SUFC comes from above PH…

We also have a duty of care to all players

Although I still find it unlikely, fair play. Some points I'd not considered.

 

[finlaytheblade]

I think you are barking mad to accept the fact we are permanently decimated by largely non contact injuries and any questions directed to the manager as to why are met by abrasive non comments.

Woof ! Woof is that OK?
Nightsweats

 

[Iffy Onuora's Shiny Head]

We've not had an update on JOC for a long time which I'm assuming means it could well be game over... he's doing lots of gym work based in social media but I wonder if this is working towards a qualification?

 

[Bladesman]

We've not had an update on JOC for a long time which I'm assuming means it could well be game over... he's doing lots of gym work based in social media but I wonder if this is working towards a qualification?

Word on the street is he is back in January but will be loaned out to test his fitness.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

Word on the street is he is back in January but will be loaned out to test his fitness.

Be a nice bit of a news to us fans hearing this confirmed surely?

 

[robbiez666]

Be a nice bit of a news to us fans hearing this confirmed surely?

Why would anyone confirm it 2 months ahead of time? This is a plan. He can easily have a setback. It puts unnecessary pressure on JOC. They're human beings, not cattle. Some fans seem to have a strange idea of what they're entitled to know.

Not a dig at you N'Diayewillalwaysloveyou but some of the comments on here around injuries are baffling.

 

[Champagneblade]

Anel
Bogle
Lowe
Fleck
Doyle
Couilbaly
Berge
McBurnie

Wouldn't that be a brucy bonus, 6 first choice players back in contention and rested

Makes you realise how unlucky some of the players have been with the timing.

Clarke has been out just at a time when we've been mending and making do. Would have been a good chance to establish himself. Same could have been said for Robinson.

Coulibaly's op came at s time when we've been shoving Osborn all over the place, had McAtee having to play CM and having Arblaster and Brooks occasionally on the bench. He could have had a good run at nailing a spot too.

Likewise with Brewster injured, Jebbo might have been afforded more game time too.

All feels a bit like Luke Freeman's time so far. Pretty much whenever he was needed, post lockdown, for example, he was injured.

Hopefully we get a clean run and have options to rotate to keep them that way.

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Makes you realise how unlucky some of the players have been with the timing.

Clarke has been out just at a time when we've been mending and making do. Would have been a good chance to establish himself. Same could have been said for Robinson.

Coulibaly's op came at s time when we've been shoving Osborn all over the place, had McAtee having to play CM and having Arblaster and Brooks occasionally on the bench. He could have had a good run at nailing a spot too.

Likewise with Brewster injured, Jebbo might have been afforded more game time too.

All feels a bit like Luke Freeman's time so far. Pretty much whenever he was needed, post lockdown, for example, he was injured.

Hopefully we get a clean run and have options to rotate to keep them that way.

Owd Luke Freeman at Luton has been involved in all their games either playing or coming on from bench,except for two games Hull and Huddersfield.

 

[Torrix1889]

We had an incredibly good run of injury free seasons under Wilder from the L1 promotion year, 2 seasons in the Champ and then the 2 years in the Prem, very few players were crocked long term, (other than JOC obviously) and I cannot remember any hamstrings going at all....

Was this

1 - luck?
2 - the training pitch? (was the same then as now),
3 - fewer games in the Prem?
4 - more physicality in the Championship?
5 - higher frequency of games this season cramming more in before the World Cup?
6 - different coaching/training tactics?
7 - different fitness, strength and conditioning coaches?

It can only be a combination of 6 & 7 surely? So the "blame" for these non-contact injuries can only fall with Hecky and his staff and it needs sorting.

 

[Roygbiv]

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

- - - - - - -Foderingham - - - - -

- - - -Anel - - Egan - - RND - - -

Bogle - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lowe

- - - - - - - Norwood - - - - - - -

- - - - -Berge - - - Doyle - - - - -

- - - - - - Ndiaye - - McB - - - - -

Will we ever get to see this line up?

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

No way this is surely a joke?

 

[CrookesBlade]

We had an incredibly good run of injury free seasons under Wilder from the L1 promotion year, 2 seasons in the Champ and then the 2 years in the Prem, very few players were crocked long term, (other than JOC obviously) and I cannot remember any hamstrings going at all....

Was this

1 - luck?
2 - the training pitch? (was the same then as now),
3 - fewer games in the Prem?
4 - more physicality in the Championship?
5 - higher frequency of games this season cramming more in before the World Cup?
6 - different coaching/training tactics?
7 - different fitness, strength and conditioning coaches?

It can only be a combination of 6 & 7 surely? So the "blame" for these non-contact injuries can only fall with Hecky and his staff and it needs sorting.

2nd season in the Prem we were picking up injuries all the time and very often couldn't name a full bench.

 

[Argentinemanager]

- - - - - - -Foderingham - - - - -

- - - -Anel - - Egan - - RND - - -

Bogle - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lowe

- - - - - - - Norwood - - - - - - -

- - - - -Berge - - - Doyle - - - - -

- - - - - - Ndiaye - - McB - - - - -

Will we ever get to see this line up?

Not if fallowfields picks the team

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Glenn Maxwell (Australian cricketer) has broken his leg at a friend’s birthday party. Hope none of our squad have friends with birthdays coming up during the World Cup…

 

[CrookesBlade]

Glenn Maxwell (Australian cricketer) has broken his leg at a friend’s birthday party. Hope none of our squad have friends with birthdays coming up during the World Cup…

Tony Adams had to pull out of the dance off in Strictly last night with what looked like a hamstring problem. Didn't realise Hecky ran a dance school.

 

[Ndiayewillalwaysloveyou]

2nd season in the Prem we were picking up injuries all the time and very often couldn't name a full bench.

Don't ever remember counting 13 injuries every other week?

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Feels like injuries have a pretty solid chance of being the thing that derails our season completely.

But genuinely the medical staff couldn’t really have done a worse job. Every game someone new is injured and hecky doesn’t seem interested in blaming anything other than bad luck.

Root and branch review needed because something is clearly rotten with the methods being employed. I’d certainly look into replacing the medical staff or at least bringing someone that knows how to properly manage the squad and oversea our approach . It’s been 2 years of near constant injuries and shows zero sign of getting any better.