Jonathan Moss

[Foxy]

"It was announced on 20 June 2011 that Moss had been promoted to the Select Group of Referees and will officiate Premier League matches more regularly."

Erm... yeah.

Couldn't tell he lives in Leeds either.

 

[bricktop]

He is a grade one bell end.

I wouldn't put him in charge of a wank, never mind a football match

 

[ZoneManWilf]

The only real complaint we can have is Lowton's first booking. Quite what their twat of a #18 was doing I have no idea. He was on the wind up all game and should have been booked in the first half himself when he kicked the ball back after he conceded a free kick, which would have seen that yellow he got with Lowton a red.

 

[Foxy]

The only real complaint we can have is Lowton's first booking. Quite what their twat of a #18 was doing I have no idea. He was on the wind up all game and should have been booked in the first half himself when he kicked the ball back after he conceded a free kick, which would have seen that yellow he got with Lowton a red.

Far more to complain about than that, he was woefully, woefully inconsistent.

The lino on the John Street side stole a wage and wants demoting for completely ignoring Doyle getting took out off the ball right in front of him alone.

Still, we can't blame them for the result.

 

[Deadbat]

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[/COLOR]Not sure what Taylor did wrong on the goal.? They scored and he tried to get the ball back. Sure there was argy bargy but what was he doing wrong by trying to get the ball back. If our player had not grabbed it and kept hold of it and then chucked it away he would not have reacted. Lowton was idiotic.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

United fans need to take off their red and white spectacles at times though. He was poor and very inconsistent but make no mistake both WERE red cards and were stupid from our players.

When they scored Lowton was idiotic to hold the ball and then throw it away. His tackles when he overan the ball was a shocker and could have been a straight red.

Sure Taylor was annoying and maybe he could have gone off for persistent fouling but nothing he did was as obvious as those Lowton did.

The Maguire one was a regulation red and stupid again due to his complete lack of pace and inability to turn and run against any players with a semblance of speed.

My full rport to come but it was a game we should have cruised. Lets be honest though if there had not been a red card for Scunthorpe in the week we may not have won? It was our turn today.

For all those callling the ref, does anyone actually bellieve he completely cost us the game. I don't. It was our sloppiness and ill discipline. Gutted tonight not so much for the result but the way we chucked it away and also the red cards/injuries means we could conceivably not have a defence for the next few weeks and with 3 away games to come today might be a turning point.

Agree with most of that. Lowton was stupid, Maguire's lack of pace is a real problem - also, what was Cress doing for the own goal? Really fed up - we could have been well clear in the table tonight. What I would say though is that the ref was incredibly one sided. How did their number 6 stay on after he fouled on the edge of the area when already on a booking at 2-2? And the booking for Ched was a joke.

 

[Foxy]

Not sure what Taylor did wrong on the goal.? They scored and he tried to get the ball back. Sure there was argy bargy but what was he doing wrong by trying to get the ball back. If our player had not grabbed it and kept hold of it and then chucked it away he would not have reacted. Lowton was idiotic.

He'd been a nob all the game, just like he's been in the past. It's not like we were wasting time with it either, unlike he did before that point.

It's not his place to get the ball back, it's in our possession, with us taking it towards the center.

Lowton took it closer to where it needed to be, did he deserve a yellow for that? certainly with all the potential yellows he'd ignored previously.

Chris Taylor also then proceeded to take the ball further away when they scored and get away with it.

It's not just the few most controversial incidents I'm moaning about, thought it was poor officiating throughout.

 

[Deadbat]

You cant send someone off for being a nob!

I am sorry but Lowton was idiotic and compounded holding the ball by chucking it away. Whatever we think of the ref and he was poor; this was a certain yellow.

The one after might have been a straight red anyway which everyone seems to be forgetting.

I grant you he was poor and the one where the no 6 stayed on was another yellow I agree with. However out two reds were red cards.

 

[ZoneManWilf]

You cant send someone off for being a nob!

I am sorry but Lowton was idiotic and compounded holding the ball by chucking it away. Whatever we think of the ref and he was poor; this was a certain yellow.

The one after might have been a straight red anyway which everyone seems to be forgetting.

I grant you he was poor and the one where the no 6 stayed on was another yellow I agree with. However out two reds were red cards.

He "chucked it away" to the centre spot! Never a yellow.

 

[bartman]

You cant send someone off for being a nob!

I am sorry but Lowton was idiotic and compounded holding the ball by chucking it away. Whatever we think of the ref and he was poor; this was a certain yellow.

The one after might have been a straight red anyway which everyone seems to be forgetting.

I grant you he was poor and the one where the no 6 stayed on was another yellow I agree with. However out two reds were red cards.

Sorry.DB I can't agree re Lowton's 1st yellow. He was walking to the centre circle and holding the ball.Then he threw it to Maguire who was walking forward. What law did he break. Also,why did he book their player at the same time ?

Irrelevant now anyway. The only pleasing thing for me today is that we created a lot of chances....we should have been 4 or 5 up before they scored. Keep creating these chances and tighten up at the back and we will be fine. Loan centre half anyone ?

 

[Guesty]

Blaming the ref is ludicrous, if any one person can be blamed it's Lowton. Even at 2-1 we should have had that in the bag but he flew in like a madman barely a minute after his first yellow and rightly walked. They equalised almost immediately and the loss of a point (and vitally Maguire on Tuesday) can be attributed to being over committed and undermanned, thanks entirely to Lowton's absence.

 

[Foxy]

You cant send someone off for being a nob!

No, but you can for repeated yellow card offenses.

Whatever we think of the ref and he was poor; this was a certain yellow.

I don't think it was, but if so, again shows the inconsistencies and had he reffed the same for both sides Chris Taylor would have walked.

Absolutely no problems with Lowton's second yellow or Harry's red. My annoyance was the performance over 90 minutes.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

The ref was shit ...& biased...but the fact remains our stupidity and poor play cost u in a game that was there for the taking. Oldham are a poor team & to let a 2 goal lead slip against them is hard to take.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

It's always pathetic when people blame the referee for a defeat.

We lost because we were shit and conceded three goals.

 

[Guesty]

It's always pathetic when people blame the referee for a defeat.

We lost because we were shit and conceded three goals.

Don't forget stupid!

 

[oldblade]

It's always pathetic when people blame the referee for a defeat.

We lost because we were shit and conceded three goals.

I don't think anyone is blaming him for the defeat. Not in this thread anyway. They are complaining at his performance, but if I have read the posts correctly, they are not blaming him for the loss.

 

[Foxy]

No, I didn't create the thread to blame the ref, the result is our own fault.

I created the thread to highlight how poorly I thought a supposed premier league referee and his assistants performed.

 

[Ballinpigpubs13]

Let me get this right, our own player is booked for walking back to the half way line to take a kick-off holding the ball. In my view at a normal pace.
Yet.........
How many times do we see opposition players walk at a snails pace when substituted to waste time ? Or opposition goalkeepers taking several hours to take a goal kick by moving the ball or digging their studs into the turf just to waste time?

 

[Deadbat]

Lowton chucked the ball away after he had held it walking very slowly back to the centre circle. It was the sort of timewasting we slammed in the week when the boot was on the other boot. I think 90% of refs would have booked him. If players stop the ball going back to the centre circle they usally get booked. You see it every week. Lowton should have left well alone.

What people keep forgetting is the second only a minute after was an wful challenge (worst of the game) and could easily have been a straight red.

Idiotic. I like the gyy/rate him as a player but that 2 minute madness could be a huge dent in our season.

 

[silverfox]

I remember a player kicking the ball over a stand when they scored with no action taken. How can Halsy give the one today at Liverpool and ignore the ones at S6?

All (some) people want is consistency.

 

[Deadbat]

As I say the Lowton tackle alone was a red in my eyes. The minutes Lowton gets involved in the first incident and pushes as Taylor does (both raised their hands btw in the same incident) they are both regulation bookings. so in short he held the ball pushed someone and thre the ball in the air (all delaying the game). If it had been an opponent we would have gone crazy if they had not been booked. I am surprised people are defending Lowton? The ref was awful but today we lost out discipline completely against a poor side.

We have had some shocking refs this year I agree but we have to kind of raise above it. You could argue we had the decision in the week with the red card going for us. We have to be better than that. Yes they scored to make 2-1 but we could have scored again to win but for the 5 minute spell of madness from Lowton and United.

 

[boo radley]

As I say the Lowton tackle alone was a red in my eyes. The minutes Lowton gets involved in the first incident and pushes as Taylor does (both raised their hands btw in the same incident) they are both regulation bookings. so in short he held the ball pushed someone and thre the ball in the air (all delaying the game). If it had been an opponent we would have gone crazy if they had not been booked. I am surprised people are defending Lowton? The ref was awful but today we lost out discipline completely against a poor side.

We have had some shocking refs this year I agree but we have to kind of raise above it. You could argue we had the decision in the week with the red card going for us. We have to be better than that. Yes they scored to make 2-1 but we could have scored again to win but for the 5 minute spell of madness from Lowton and United.

So you praise the ref for doing his job properly on one incident but dont slam him when he doesn't on the other?
About as consistant as the ref we had today then.

 

[Webding]

The ref was abysmal, but the real reason we lost is because we sat back in the second half, then slipped into the usual panic once we conceded. The only directly game-changing decision I can argue with is Lowton's first booking, but even that is a bit 50/50.

 

[mickerz-blade]

Why did 18 Taylor not get booked in the 1st half. the ref had a word with him following a bad challenge on Quinn? then he retreated and threw the ball away.

 

[stannyblade]

Why did 18 Taylor not get booked in the 1st half. the ref had a word with him following a bad challenge on Quinn? then he retreated and threw the ball away.

think thats Foxy point of this thread. Taylor did enough at 0-0 to have been sent off. The keeper was wasting time as well. If Lowton did do anything wrong for the first one why did he then book Taylor as well (thats how DW saw it as well).
On his second yellow the ref was not going to do owt until Taylor and Piggy bastard surrounded him demanding a second yellow. How their no6 then stayed on is a joke.

 

[super_pig]

>They scored and he tried to get the ball back
but you can't do that.. it is our kick off.. it is always the attacking team player who is booked in those circumstances..

 

[JohnDenver]

The ref was irritating, but we had enough to win that game easily regardless of his decisions. I'm more annoyed by that than the ropey officiating.

 

[The One]

Lowton chucked the ball away after he had held it walking very slowly back to the centre circle. It was the sort of timewasting we slammed in the week when the boot was on the other boot. I think 90% of refs would have booked him. If players stop the ball going back to the centre circle they usally get booked. You see it every week. Lowton should have left well alone.

What people keep forgetting is the second only a minute after was an wful challenge (worst of the game) and could easily have been a straight red.

Idiotic. I like the gyy/rate him as a player but that 2 minute madness could be a huge dent in our season.

Time wasting? How is it time wasting when their player was pressuring him. Plus not many noticed that Kuqi was even further back. Absolutely no time wasting involved. They had scored...the watch stopped.

 

[Compound_Legend]

A little bit of digging has found a few bits out re our Mr Moss..

To today,he's given 88 yellows and 9 reds - http://www.soccerbase.com/referees/referee.sd?referee_id=986

https://www.facebook.com/groups/87376754487/ - "I am not going to be abusive or in any way threatening or disrespectful but that was the worst referring performance I have seen in 53 years of watching LCFC. You should give it up NOW!"

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/west-brom-albion/news/mcauley-slams-ref-moss_15696.html

http://kumb.com/report.php?id=101175 - "Things weren’t helped by the antics of select group referee Jon Moss who seemed to take great delight in giving perverse decisions for the sake of it. Yellow cards for Lansbury and O’Brien for fouls were one thing – though strangely Moss didn’t feel the need to punish similar home fouls in similar vein. However the yellows for Tomkins, Reid and Cole for dissent each followed decisions that the official must surely have known were 100% wrong. The fact that Moss made the select group this year caused more than a few raised eyebrows in refereeing circles and on this performance it’s not hard to see why."

This tosser had previous form before he arrived today. That,and the fact he's on the Premiership elite list show that refereeing at the top level in this country is a fucking disgrace.

 

[Cool Clint]

As I say the Lowton tackle alone was a red in my eyes. The minutes Lowton gets involved in the first incident and pushes as Taylor does (both raised their hands btw in the same incident) they are both regulation bookings. so in short he held the ball pushed someone and thre the ball in the air (all delaying the game). If it had been an opponent we would have gone crazy if they had not been booked. I am surprised people are defending Lowton? The ref was awful but today we lost out discipline completely against a poor side.

We have had some shocking refs this year I agree but we have to kind of raise above it. You could argue we had the decision in the week with the red card going for us. We have to be better than that. Yes they scored to make 2-1 but we could have scored again to win but for the 5 minute spell of madness from Lowton and United.

And the ref lost his. totally inconsistent and naive.
You could also argue that Carlisle should have been down to 10. so it makes up for nothing.