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Are so many of you wishing to hang out our players over 1 defeat. You've enjoyed the season so far and surely you're not going to give up on OUR team just after this?
So some got it wrong and had an off day. These are the same guys who've given us so much to be proud of so far. I'm sure they will again if we stay behind them.

COYRAWW
 



Apart from we look like a much more organised team with some confidence probably 2 of the most important things in football
 
Are so many of you wishing to hang out our players over 1 defeat. You've enjoyed the season so far and surely you're not going to give up on OUR team just after this?
So some got it wrong and had an off day. These are the same guys who've given us so much to be proud of so far. I'm sure they will again if we stay behind them.

COYRAWW

Here here. Possibly the best post in the last 24 hrs
 
For me, the concern is that our approach seems to have changed following the injury to one key individual. As he'll possibly be out for a while, there is uncertainty whether we'll be able to return to our success formula. Please try to understand that the concerns voiced are not because people like being critical, but because they think adjustments and tweaks are requied from what we've seen vs Preston and Wednesday.

Having said that, we remain in a great position and have some decent options within the squad to replace McDonald.
 
Because nothing has changed since we was relegated.

should have gone to specsavers
blinkered crap like this isa playing into pig fans hands, get a grip man

come saturday night we might be 8 points clear , perhaps then you can call for his head
we lost 1-0 away to wednesday so f,,king what, its 1 game out of 46
 
Are so many of you wishing to hang out our players over 1 defeat. You've enjoyed the season so far and surely you're not going to give up on OUR team just after this?
So some got it wrong and had an off day. These are the same guys who've given us so much to be proud of so far. I'm sure they will again if we stay behind them.

COYRAWW

Well said.
 
Are so many of you wishing to hang out our players over 1 defeat. You've enjoyed the season so far and surely you're not going to give up on OUR team just after this?
So some got it wrong and had an off day. These are the same guys who've given us so much to be proud of so far. I'm sure they will again if we stay behind them.

COYRAWW
totally agree mate,we was,nt embarrased by the massive, what would the moaners be like if it had been like the manchester derby a few months ago ?
 
Because nothing has changed since we was relegated.

Sweet shit man, get thi sen back to S6.

Mickerz - I completely see your point and some people are going over the top, but sometimes the odd tinker to freshen things up isn't a bad thing. I don't think calling Flynn to replace Monty and Beats/Hoskins to be given a start is going overboard. I think the majority of fans would be happy with this reaction, it's not going over the top and gives us a more attacking threat, which at home, is essential.

With McDonald back we will piss this automatic promotion lark. I'm still confident. I still have faith in Danny and yesterday has not changed that one iota.

Wizards.
 
its 1 game out of 46
Exactly what I've been saying.
For me, the concern is that our approach seems to have changed following the injury to one key individual. As he'll possibly be out for a while, there is uncertainty whether we'll be able to return to our success formula. Please try to understand that the concerns voiced are not because people like being critical, but because they think adjustments and tweaks are requied from what we've seen vs Preston and Wednesday.

Having said that, we remain in a great position and have some decent options within the squad to replace McDonald.
You're basing this on one and a half games? Seriously? :confused:
 
Exactly what I've been saying.

You're basing this on one and a half games? Seriously? :confused:

It was a comment on the balance of our team in the last couple of games, with the suggestion that we could well be able to put it right. What do you disagree with?
 
Having said that, we remain in a great position and have some decent options within the squad to replace McDonald.

Who? He's the only play maker we have in the squad. I just hope he's back soon. Anyone know how long he's likely to be out?
 
It was a comment on the balance of our team in the last couple of games, with the suggestion that we could well be able to put it right. What do you disagree with?

I think your concern about the pne game are unfounded as we continued to try to play the same way as we had with mcdonald. pne tried to rough us up and it did not work the passing when attacking was still good but with slightly less outlet due to their play.
 
I think your concern about the pne game are unfounded as we continued to try to play the same way as we had with mcdonald. pne tried to rough us up and it did not work the passing when attacking was still good but with slightly less outlet due to their play.

I don't agree with that. In the second half we saw next to no playmaking/creative distribution from central midfield. I don't think it's fair on Monty and Doyle to expect it from them either. We don't have to make this too much about individuals though. We should aim to get the balance exactly right, and when a key player is out I'd like us to try to pick a team that enables us to maintain our playing style.
 



It was a comment on the balance of our team in the last couple of games, with the suggestion that we could well be able to put it right. What do you disagree with?
Your comment on our approach seeming to have changed. We didn't change the way we played against Preston (although I admit we weren't as good without McDonald) and we went on to win the game. Against Wednesday we also played football in the first half and then it all went to pot in the 2nd half, we just panicked and hoofed it.

I think its unfair to say we've changed our approach based on that. It doesn't appear we have IMO but I think we'll have a better idea when we look at the Scunthorpe game.
 
Who? He's the only play maker we have in the squad. I just hope he's back soon. Anyone know how long he's likely to be out?

I've said before that I think McDonald is the best playmaker in the division. A fit and motivated Williamson could well be the second best.

Stephen Quinn would also offer more going forward, as would Matt Lowton, or a recalled David McAllister. In the future Eliott Whitehouse and Matt Harriott could also be options.
 
Your comment on our approach seeming to have changed. We didn't change the way we played against Preston (although I admit we weren't as good without McDonald) and we went on to win the game. Against Wednesday we also played football in the first half and then it all went to pot in the 2nd half, we just panicked and hoofed it.

I think its unfair to say we've changed our approach based on that. It doesn't appear we have IMO but I think we'll have a better idea when we look at the Scunthorpe game.

I would agree with you and mickerz on that. I have the same view that we did not change our style drastically and we did just kick it in the 2nd half only against wendy
 
Your comment on our approach seeming to have changed. We didn't change the way we played against Preston (although I admit we weren't as good without McDonald) and we went on to win the game. Against Wednesday we also played football in the first half and then it all went to pot in the 2nd half, we just panicked and hoofed it.

I think its unfair to say we've changed our approach based on that. It doesn't appear we have IMO but I think we'll have a better idea when we look at the Scunthorpe game.

With McDonald and Doyle we had a classic partnership of one playmaker and one holding midfielder/ball winner.

We then had the option of keeping that set up, by playing Lee Williamson, a very good playmaker at this level, in central midfield. As mentioned in my last post, there were also other options available, that would have seen us maintaining some sort of playmaking/creative distribution, or attacking threat from central midfield.

We are extremely lucky to have a squad that enables us to do that, I don't think any other team in this division have such strong options for this key position.

What we chose instead was to go with two holding midfielders/ball winners, neither of whom carry an attacking threat nor is playmaking/creative distribution their natural game. We chose to change our approach, making it our priority to have a tenacious, aggressive midfield and hoping we would create from wide.

Sometimes it's enough at this level, we have good quality out wide. But McDonald finding form has added an extra dimension to our play and it has seen us finding more space and often made the opposition chase shadows. I think it's important that we acknowledge that, and try to maintain it, even if McDonald is out.

Sorry, but against Preston North End and Sheffield Wednesday, we chose to prioritise differently.
 
Because nothing has changed since we was relegated.

Thought I back up my claim. This is not the first defeat we have lost to a top 6 team, and it's not the first game we have played were we were terrible. So we're quite right to "hang out our players" since it's not the first time. If we are promoted, can we really look another team fan from this league in the eye and say we really deserve it? If we are promoted in 2nd, it will feel quite hollow since we could hardly beat the better teams in the division. In regards to nothing has changed, basically, we are still a team who bottles under pressure, we still don't have any pace, we still have the majority of players who got us relegated last season, we still don't have any money. I'm afraid that if we go up, we will come straight back down.
 
If we are promoted, can we really look another team fan from this league in the eye and say we really deserve it? If we are promoted in 2nd, it will feel quite hollow since we could hardly beat the better teams in the division.

Well we can look them in the eye, and say "well at least we didn't lose to <InsertShitTeamNameHere>". If we are promoted in second then of course we will have deserved it. If we get promoted through the play-offs after finishing 6th, then it's slightly less deserved, but if we get promoted through the playoffs, then by definition we will have had to have beaten the division's better clubs in order to do so.

Your statement makes no sense whatsoever.
 
Echoing Bergen's point: against Wednesday it seems that Wilson and his coaching staff were afraid that playing Williamson in the centre of the park wouldn't protect the back four enough, hence playing Montgomery and Doyle in an attempt to inject solidity. To my mind, that was the wrong call as the Wednesday central midfield is not creative enough at all to warrant that selection.

If McDonald isn't fit again for the Scunthorpe game, it should be Doyle and Williamson in the middle. We need to take the game to Scunthorpe and banish the memories of Sunday's defeat. If we win this by 2 or 3 goals - which we can - then it'll send a message to the rest of the top sides that losing the derby was just a blip.

@mpjacko: let's deal with the Championship and whether we'll come straight down when we get there and when we see who joins and leaves in the summer. I think Wilson knows that he's got some severe financial restraints at the moment (hence I think Simonsen will leave in the summer when his contract is up and I'd be amazed if Montgomery stays) but there should be more room for manoeuvre in the summer.
 
If McDonald isn't fit against for the Scunthorpe game, it should be Doyle and Williamson in the middle. We need to take the game to Scunthorpe and banish the memories of Sunday's defeat. If we win this by 2 or 3 goals - which we can - then it'll send a message to the rest of the top sides that losing the derby was just a blip.

Christ almighty, Wednesday night is a huge game. Must win, not so much in terms of the league position, but definitely so in terms of confidence.
 
Christ almighty, Wednesday night is a huge game. Must win, not so much in terms of the league position, but definitely so in terms of confidence.

It's important from the league perspective too - we're currently only 2 points above Wednesday. If that increases to 5 and we've still got a game in hand then suddenly we'll look much, much further away.

That said, when did we last beat Scunthorpe at home?!
 
It's important from the league perspective too - we're currently only 2 points above Wednesday. If that increases to 5 and we've still got a game in hand then suddenly we'll look much, much further away.

That said, when did we last beat Scunthorpe at home?!

1st November 1983 - 5-3 (Philliskirk 2, Brazil, Morris, Edwards). That was also last time we scored a goal against them at home. Mind you, we have only played them 3 times since then

9/2/08 D0-0
28/3/10 L0-1
14/9/10 L0-4
 
>These are the same guys
actually they aren't and you are conveniently missing the point.. the player who has come in for the most criticism has not been in the team.. by coincidence we've been playing much better.. that is the whole point of the criticism
when this player plays we resort to hoof.. we got sucked into this 'battle' bollocks.. we have to earn the right to play and stick to our game and football teams to death.. noone can live with us at this level when we play proper football
 
If we are promoted, can we really look another team fan from this league in the eye and say we really deserve it? If we are promoted in 2nd, it will feel quite hollow since we could hardly beat the better teams in the division.

Really? If we get promoted, I really couldn't give the proverbial tinker's cuss as to how many of the top teams we had beaten and what other teams' fans might say about us "deserving" it.

I suspect I speak for 99.9999999999% of other United fans.
 
Christ almighty, Wednesday night is a huge game. Must win, not so much in terms of the league position, but definitely so in terms of confidence.

It's a must win for the following reasons IMO

- Confidence
- It's one of our Games in hand
- It's one of 2 home games before a run of 3 away games

Given the teams we have to play in the run in, all our Home games (with teh possible exception of Stevenage) are must win games. Win them all and thats 21 points, we'd probably only need 9 points away from home if we do that...

---------- Post added at 10:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:33 AM ----------

1st November 1983 - 5-3 (Philliskirk 2, Brazil, Morris, Edwards). That was also last time we scored a goal against them at home. Mind you, we have only played them 3 times since then

9/2/08 D0-0
28/3/10 L0-1
14/9/10 L0-4

I remember this one, didn`t we pound them and yet still managed to lose 4-0????
 



biggest game of the season so far.. it's not the losing .. it is the bouncing back that counts
 

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