So, next season ...

[pommpey]

Let's assume (in a worst case scenario) this is the state of play:

Berge gone - £20m
McBurnie loaned out with option to buy
Brewster and Bogle fit and playable
Moussett, Burke, Freeman, Lowe all gone. Sunk cost.
Billy fit and playable but with kid gloves. See also Bash.
MGW and the rest of the loanees gone back

Baldock and Egan having had enquiries.
O'Connell official announcement he is retiring.

From this, who are our targets (given we've possible got about £15m available - if that - to spend)? Permanents, loans and frees?

What will our team look like with these targets?

pommpey

 

[Geordie Blade]

Let's assume (in a worst case scenario) this is the state of play:

Berge gone - £20m
McBurnie loaned out with option to buy
Brewster and Bogle fit and playable
Moussett, Burke, Freeman, Lowe all gone. Sunk cost.
Billy fit and playable but with kid gloves. See also Bash.
MGW and the rest of the loanees gone back

Baldock and Egan having had enquiries.
O'Connell official announcement he is retiring.

From this, who are our targets (given we've possible got about £15m available - if that - to spend)? Permanents, loans and frees?

What will our team look like with these targets?

pommpey

How does McBurnie leaving end up in the 'worst case' scenario?

For me, the priority absolutely HAS to be a MGW-type replacement. Someone that has a bit of magic about them to open up defences. Three years ago, I would have said that Luke Freeman was exactly that type of player, so the irony isn't really lost there.

I'd be happy with our forward line as it is, but that would depend on Sharp's fitness. If Jebbison and Osula develop, we don't need to invest any further there.

Ideally, it would be nice to have a right-sided centre back to sit in for Basham when he's injured. That's the area that we really lack cover.

And finally, we are desperate for a hard tackling midfielder. Not to use in every game, but to dig out for the cold Tuesdays at Blackpool, etc.

 

[Flumps]

How does McBurnie leaving end up in the 'worst case' scenario?

Less back up when things get naughty between players and fans

 

[pommpey]

How does McBurnie leaving end up in the 'worst case' scenario?

In that we can't do anything with him but sideline him to another club with an option to buy.

As I have said - there's a player in Oliver McBurnie. Just not in the stripes we wear.

pommpey

 

[Nelson1889]

In that we can't do anything with him but sideline him to another club with an option to buy.

As I have said - there's a player in Oliver McBurnie. Just not in the stripes we wear.

pommpey

If he goes out on loan he's basically a free transfer because his contract is up at the end of next season.

 

[PaulHalfway]

I very much doubt any money available to buy players, will be loans and picking up a few out of contract players, look at a few of the academy players, can they step up
20 million income reduction from sky has to be covered probably by the sale of Berge I would have thought

 

[Nick Jansky]

How does McBurnie leaving end up in the 'worst case' scenario?

For me, the priority absolutely HAS to be a MGW-type replacement. Someone that has a bit of magic about them to open up defences. Three years ago, I would have said that Luke Freeman was exactly that type of player, so the irony isn't really lost there.

I'd be happy with our forward line as it is, but that would depend on Sharp's fitness. If Jebbison and Osula develop, we don't need to invest any further there.

Ideally, it would be nice to have a right-sided centre back to sit in for Basham when he's injured. That's the area that we really lack cover.

And finally, we are desperate for a hard tackling midfielder. Not to use in every game, but to dig out for the cold Tuesdays at Blackpool, etc.

Kyron Gordon will be developed over the next 2 years to replace bash.

Ndiyae will continue to improve to at least partially fill the flair void.

 

[S64 Blade]

How does McBurnie leaving end up in the 'worst case' scenario?

For me, the priority absolutely HAS to be a MGW-type replacement. Someone that has a bit of magic about them to open up defences. Three years ago, I would have said that Luke Freeman was exactly that type of player, so the irony isn't really lost there.

I'd be happy with our forward line as it is, but that would depend on Sharp's fitness. If Jebbison and Osula develop, we don't need to invest any further there.

Ideally, it would be nice to have a right-sided centre back to sit in for Basham when he's injured. That's the area that we really lack cover.

And finally, we are desperate for a hard tackling midfielder. Not to use in every game, but to dig out for the cold Tuesdays at Blackpool, etc.

Scott Twine would be the ideal replacement. But I’m not sure we’d get him if a bidding war ensues (likely).

 

[bertieblade]

Money has to be available to finance either

Loans

Purchases

Signing on fees for out of contract players

They all cost money, it is up to our management team to see where they get the best value

 

[Dark muffy]

As an attacking threat, unpredictable, skilful type of player that could possibly play where MGW was playing I really liked that Domingos Quina who was on loan at Barnsley from Watford. I know we were in for him once before but he's a bit older and more experienced now. Watford would probably want to keep him for the championship though. Also I'd love that Keanen Davies instead of Mcburnie, he's a right handful, if he isn't going to get premier league football I'd like to see us go in for him. Whether we could afford a fee or wages for either of these is another question though.

 

[dc_blade]

I think a £15m transfer budget is better than the best case scenario under the current owner, pommpey and I think the worst case scenario is a lot, lot bleaker!

I've got nothing against the guy but so far the evidence suggests that with him in charge we will be struggling financially from here on out.

 

[CopenhagenBlade]

It will be really interesting to see how the summer pans out. It could be said that if we were promoted, Prince, would have kept us and we would also have kept Berge and probably extended with MGW. I doubt the budget would have been over 30m, which is nowhere near enough.
Not going up leads to the potential of a new owner but we can also wave goodbye to Berge and MGW. if Prince stays I would be surprised if the budget is more than £10m and that depends on what we get for Berge. Would Egan go?
Which of the kids are really ready to step up, maybe we are forced to throw 1 or 2 in and we could be pleasantly surprised but we obviously need at least 1 experienced player in defence, midfield and attack and a bit of flair unless Ndiaye really steps up.
With current expectations I can’t see anything above mid table next season, without any risk of troubling either end

 

[Mojo]

Let's assume (in a worst case scenario) this is the state of play:

Berge gone - £20m
McBurnie loaned out with option to buy
Brewster and Bogle fit and playable
Moussett, Burke, Freeman, Lowe all gone. Sunk cost.
Billy fit and playable but with kid gloves. See also Bash.
MGW and the rest of the loanees gone back

Baldock and Egan having had enquiries.
O'Connell official announcement he is retiring.

From this, who are our targets (given we've possible got about £15m available - if that - to spend)? Permanents, loans and frees?

What will our team look like with these targets?

pommpey

Think 15mill to spend is wishful thinking. Youths and free transfers only

 

[Snowflake]

Let's assume (in a worst case scenario) this is the state of play:

Berge gone - £20m
McBurnie loaned out with option to buy
Brewster and Bogle fit and playable
Moussett, Burke, Freeman, Lowe all gone. Sunk cost.
Billy fit and playable but with kid gloves. See also Bash.
MGW and the rest of the loanees gone back

Baldock and Egan having had enquiries.
O'Connell official announcement he is retiring.

From this, who are our targets (given we've possible got about £15m available - if that - to spend)? Permanents, loans and frees?

What will our team look like with these targets?

pommpey

Why only £15m if we sell Berge ? Lowe would generate a fee and not all the parachute money is charged (is it ?).
We need another MGW type and a tall strong midfielder.
Hecky wants 6 or 7, so I assume another RWB if Bogle pushes forward.
Don’t we need an experienced striker ?

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Why only £15m if we sell Berge ? Lowe would generate a fee and not all the parachute money is charged (is it ?).
We need another MGW type and a tall strong midfielder.
Hecky wants 6 or 7, so I assume another RWB if Bogle pushes forward.
Don’t we need an experienced striker ?

Where has Hecky said he wants 6 or 7

I just think for a kick off we need to assess why we as a club had so many injuries through last season and get our targets in early, not fucking about on the last day of the transfer window.

 

[mancunianblade]

Feel like I’m on every thread saying the same thing but we have been told what told what to expect

Promote from within
Recruit young players with potential and develop.

In an ideal world it’s a great plan, in reality it’s a major challenge.

I don’t see who is coming through who is ready come august. Maybe a surprise one like Arblaster. We should really push Jebbison and Osula out on loan or risk hindering their development.

Incomings are a must however expect players under 25 with potential.

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

How does McBurnie leaving end up in the 'worst case' scenario?

For me, the priority absolutely HAS to be a MGW-type replacement. Someone that has a bit of magic about them to open up defences. Three years ago, I would have said that Luke Freeman was exactly that type of player, so the irony isn't really lost there.

I'd be happy with our forward line as it is, but that would depend on Sharp's fitness. If Jebbison and Osula develop, we don't need to invest any further there.

Ideally, it would be nice to have a right-sided centre back to sit in for Basham when he's injured. That's the area that we really lack cover.

And finally, we are desperate for a hard tackling midfielder. Not to use in every game, but to dig out for the cold Tuesdays at Blackpool, etc.

I think we would need an experienced forward to add some know how to this area. Apart from Sharp they are all young.

 

[Maidenhead]

I think a £15m transfer budget is better than the best case scenario under the current owner, pommpey and I think the worst case scenario is a lot, lot bleaker!

I've got nothing against the guy but so far the evidence suggests that with him in charge we will be struggling financially from here on out.

Think 15mill to spend is wishful thinking. Youths and free transfers only

Size of transfer fee budget is irrelevant.

There will be a lot of decent players looking for new employers this summer as clubs all over are looking to trim their budgets.

It's far more important that we are competitive on the wages front than we have money to give away to other clubs in return for just a signature.

In my view money paid in fees is just dead money and could have been better utilised.

 

[Aston max]

We can all speculate as to what is going to happen (central midfield especially a CDM and another MGW type player) but until the official retained list comes out we don't know who hecky has his hands tied with (can anyone post a list of contracts that end June)
All we will get from the hierarchy will be prevarication and bull shit
Personally I think the take over died on MGW,s penalty (if there ever was one )
But we all agree a Cat 1 academy is the minimum we need
Frustrated, news at 10 Aston

 

[Berlin Blade]

Creative options:
Twine - £?
Chong (loan)
Swift - free

Midfield options:
Doyle - (loan)
Quina
Brannagan - free
Barkhuizen - free

Defenders:
Pedersen - free left back
Lenihan - free
Clarke salter - free
Uremovic - loan extension?

It’s possible to build a fairly decent side without much of a budget this summer.

 

[gordoncharles]

Berge gone - £20m

Is this what you think our loss on him will be, or what you think some other club will pay for him?

Because my belief is that we'll be nearer the former than the latter

 

[BushBlade]

I think a £15m transfer budget is better than the best case scenario under the current owner, pommpey and I think the worst case scenario is a lot, lot bleaker!

I've got nothing against the guy but so far the evidence suggests that with him in charge we will be struggling financially from here on out.

He said £15m to spend, which I assume includes wages and signing on fees. My own back of fag packet calculations came up with something similar but we really don’t know as there isn’t sufficient verifiable information in the public domain.

 

[Harry's Game]

Opening day side in July…….


…………………….……Wes

…….…..Bash………New CB…………..JLT

Osborn……………………………………………..RND

…………..Norwood………….New CM

…………………….Ndiaye…

………….Sharp………………Brewster


The above is assuming Egan has left, Bogle not fit until Septembish and Baldock has left, We get a younger fitter replacement for Fleck… I can see Nidaye in a version of the ’Duffy role’ now MGW has gone and hopefully a fully fit Brewster and Sharp ready to go in July.

 

[Rufus Smalls]

The thought of starting next season without MGW is frightening, let alone without Sander too.

It may take a couple of seasons to re-structure the squad but hopefully with Ndiaye, Osula, Jebbo and more academy players progressing we can hold our own in the championship until they all click.

UTB !

 

[Snowflake]

Where has Hecky said he wants 6 or 7

I just think for a kick off we need to assess why we as a club had so many injuries through last season and get our targets in early, not fucking about on the last day of the transfer window.

In his post match interview v Forest

 

[BobblesBlade]

Get a team of youngsters with a spine of experience.

 

[robbiez666]

Let's assume (in a worst case scenario) this is the state of play:

Berge gone - £20m
McBurnie loaned out with option to buy
Brewster and Bogle fit and playable
Moussett, Burke, Freeman, Lowe all gone. Sunk cost.
Billy fit and playable but with kid gloves. See also Bash.
MGW and the rest of the loanees gone back

Baldock and Egan having had enquiries.
O'Connell official announcement he is retiring.

From this, who are our targets (given we've possible got about £15m available - if that - to spend)? Permanents, loans and frees?

What will our team look like with these targets?

pommpey

£15 million? I'd be shocked if we had £1 million available.

Freeman and Mousset have already gone, haven't they?!

 

[Badger Blade]

Feels like we're going to have to throw some of the youngsters in and rightly so (in the right situations), otherwise what's the point in having an academy to start with?

Ndiaye will be better for a full season at a good level, a season that he could consider a success and is pretty much a shoo-in for the starting XI.
Gordon did ok when he came in.
RND has proven that we aren't going to miss Stevens too much when he leaves.
Lopata's the sort of big nasty lump we could do with at the back for when Egan goes. He can't turn much slower than Egan already does.
Are Harrison Neal and Zak Brunt capable of stepping in here and there because Norwood and Fleck aren't likely to improve dramatically at this point in their careers.
Jebbison did well at Burton. For what McBurnie contributes, we might as well have either of Jebbo or Osula in the team as have him in there.
Also the prospect of seeing perhaps the odd glimpse of Peck and Lankshear at some point

We're skint and don't have a lot of choice and it's a good opportunity for some of these lads to step up, step in and shine.

I'd love nothing more to see some of our youngsters play with the sort of swagger that Johnson at Forest did and really make a spot in the team their own. If any of them do anywhere near as well as Harry Maguire and Kyle Walker, then we'll be doing ok.

 

[coolasanidiot]

In that we can't do anything with him but sideline him to another club with an option to buy.

As I have said - there's a player in Oliver McBurnie. Just not in the stripes we wear.

pommpey

There isn't. Latest malfunction = perfect - gross misconduct- CLEAR OFF.

 

[robbiez666]

Worth baring in mind that the non-league loanees are likely to need a loan in League 1 or 2 before we can think about them playing regularly.