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This season is all about light and shade, isn't it? The dazzling brilliance of us smashing Swansea and Middlesbrough at Bramall Lane, the abject surrender to Coventry and the 'never even turned up-ness' of Millwall and todays very poor showing. Across the pitch, this afternoon is an example to everyone who deigns to own a negative point of view as vindication and a further example of the bald fact that is we fluke a promotion, or even if we stay in this division, any further progress cannot be with at least 60% of the current squad. We can't be dealing with inconsistency and matches where we turn up and play poor sides and simply give the game to them. Even if we have ground out a 0-0 draw today and their goal hadn't flukishly gone past Fodders, we were ineffective, negative and unconfident to even get the basics of football right. As much as it pains me to say, we deserved to lose. Hate myself for saying that, but we did.

The usual first ten minute flurry was expected and as much as we pressured Stoke, really we aren't going anywhere. If you've played football at any level and you have the upper hand in any phase of the game and keep plugging and keep plugging and fail to score, one of the worst psychological things to happen is to hear their defence say to each other 'keep your shape, they're going nowhere this lot' because if you have no plan B (and we haven't) it's a case of huffing and puffing until they finally break out and score. And that is exactly what happened. Even boxing ... you have your opponent on the ropes but every punch you throw is hitting arms, gloves, shoulders, arms again ... and you are losing energy with every punch you give fails to score points and drains your resolve. It's not as though Stoke today were a slugging opponent who wouldn't go down. They were as profligate as we were with possession and tended to lump it up the pitch but as much as we cam e back at them, they knew we wouldn't even dent their paintwork. And what is it about something happening in the match - in this case the ref getting boffed by the ball in the gob - which suddenly switches us off and into 'we don't know what we are doing' mode? After that happened suddenly we are a different side, struggling to keep the ball, faffing about trying to find the perfect pass, afraid to go past players and even shoot. Does anyone seriously think we have the horsepower to firstly secure a playoff position, then take a team on over two legs then go to our killing field of a playoff final and actually win? Based on today?

Hecky has worked wonders with this lot so far. But to me it is clear we still have the stubborn stains of Wilderball firmly farted into the fabric and given as we still play the same old 5-3-2 and have the same players, when we 'hold it up to the light, we still see the shite'. We still have quite a few tagnuts, whinnets and dangleberries caught fast in our pump-pubes and for me, we need to wire brush the fuckers out. The midfield today, as much as we chant and mantra that Fleck is somehow 'good', Norwood 'makes us tick' and the expensive flop that is Sander Berge who can't turn it on every third game, never mine every other game, showed where our problems lie. They were ineffective, left to right, front to back. They sat isolated from defence and isolated from attack, trying their best to simply play fucking football and failing dismally. At the back, yeah, we had Furious back to add some rigidity (if not silly machismo) but on the other side the flagging RND screamed 'sub the cunt for Osborn' from about the tenth minute. And the only player worth anything - and he's not even ours - trolled a lonely path trying to 'create' (a word alien to our players) and find Jebbison who looked forlorn and Sharp like up front chasing shadows and looking like he'd rather be back at Burton where someone can find him with a through ball or a cross.

Foderingham 6/10: Hardly troubled much and mainly in the right place at the right time. No chance with their goal.
Baldock 5/10: Nice to see him back and maybe a couple of games to get him back into the swing of things. But for fucks sake George, there's 'passion' and then there's being a dick. Discover the difference between the two please.
Davies 5/10: Barely gets that because of his key interception but today looked well behind that game in many areas
Egan 6/10: No effect shown in all of his international outings and propping the back three up at times. But he still has a fifty pee head
Robinson 5/10: Looked nervy and unsupported at times leading to some threepio moments
RND 2/10: Poor outing. Was being run ragged and a bit wasteful in attack. Can't cross to save his fucking life
Norwood (the usual) 4/10: Back to his expected fancy-dan passing which often doesn't find its target and puts us on the back foot and when given a chance on a plate, finds the keeper with a backpass. He was poor and pointy today. Again.
Berge 3/10: Wasteful, laconic and unproductive. One good game in four isn't good enough
Fleck 3/10: Jimmy Fleck today.
MGW 7.5/10: Tried vainly to spark some fucking movement forward, to no real effect. Often leading up blind alleys or ending in failure, but at least he is fucking trying. We are gonna miss this bloke when we eventually fail to pay for him. Often moves past people but seems to not trust the shower of lavatory bowls around him in red and white
Jebbison 2/10: Poor kid

Ndaiye 4/10: No real effect, even when linking with others. I hope he hasn't suddenly turned into shite
Osborn 4/10: No idea why he replaced MGW. Unlucky with the shot
Osula - never noticed him on TBH

I now don't think we will be promoted, or deserve to be in fact with that performance. We are like a slowly deflating balloon, whilst others seem to be able to retain their filling. Injuries? Not really an excuse. We have seven or eight PL level players playing today and they all looked Division One. Depressing stuff. HJ&SM need to sort this shit out by Tuesday because QPR will mow us down if not.

pommpey

pommpey
 



This season is all about light and shade, isn't it? The dazzling brilliance of us smashing Swansea and Middlesbrough at Bramall Lane, the abject surrender to Coventry and the 'never even turned up-ness' of Millwall and todays very poor showing. Across the pitch, this afternoon is an example to everyone who deigns to own a negative point of view as vindication and a further example of the bald fact that is we fluke a promotion, or even if we stay in this division, any further progress cannot be with at least 60% of the current squad. We can't be dealing with inconsistency and matches where we turn up and play poor sides and simply give the game to them. Even if we have ground out a 0-0 draw today and their goal hadn't flukishly gone past Fodders, we were ineffective, negative and unconfident to even get the basics of football right. As much as it pains me to say, we deserved to lose. Hate myself for saying that, but we did.

The usual first ten minute flurry was expected and as much as we pressured Stoke, really we aren't going anywhere. If you've played football at any level and you have the upper hand in any phase of the game and keep plugging and keep plugging and fail to score, one of the worst psychological things to happen is to hear their defence say to each other 'keep your shape, they're going nowhere this lot' because if you have no plan B (and we haven't) it's a case of huffing and puffing until they finally break out and score. And that is exactly what happened. Even boxing ... you have your opponent on the ropes but every punch you throw is hitting arms, gloves, shoulders, arms again ... and you are losing energy with every punch you give fails to score points and drains your resolve. It's not as though Stoke today were a slugging opponent who wouldn't go down. They were as profligate as we were with possession and tended to lump it up the pitch but as much as we cam e back at them, they knew we wouldn't even dent their paintwork. And what is it about something happening in the match - in this case the ref getting boffed by the ball in the gob - which suddenly switches us off and into 'we don't know what we are doing' mode? After that happened suddenly we are a different side, struggling to keep the ball, faffing about trying to find the perfect pass, afraid to go past players and even shoot. Does anyone seriously think we have the horsepower to firstly secure a playoff position, then take a team on over two legs then go to our killing field of a playoff final and actually win? Based on today?

Hecky has worked wonders with this lot so far. But to me it is clear we still have the stubborn stains of Wilderball firmly farted into the fabric and given as we still play the same old 5-3-2 and have the same players, when we 'hold it up to the light, we still see the shite'. We still have quite a few tagnuts, whinnets and dangleberries caught fast in our pump-pubes and for me, we need to wire brush the fuckers out. The midfield today, as much as we chant and mantra that Fleck is somehow 'good', Norwood 'makes us tick' and the expensive flop that is Sander Berge who can't turn it on every third game, never mine every other game, showed where our problems lie. They were ineffective, left to right, front to back. They sat isolated from defence and isolated from attack, trying their best to simply play fucking football and failing dismally. At the back, yeah, we had Furious back to add some rigidity (if not silly machismo) but on the other side the flagging RND screamed 'sub the cunt for Osborn' from about the tenth minute. And the only player worth anything - and he's not even ours - trolled a lonely path trying to 'create' (a word alien to our players) and find Jebbison who looked forlorn and Sharp like up front chasing shadows and looking like he'd rather be back at Burton where someone can find him with a through ball or a cross.

Foderingham 6/10: Hardly troubled much and mainly in the right place at the right time. No chance with their goal.
Baldock 5/10: Nice to see him back and maybe a couple of games to get him back into the swing of things. But for fucks sake George, there's 'passion' and then there's being a dick. Discover the difference between the two please.
Davies 5/10: Barely gets that because of his key interception but today looked well behind that game in many areas
Egan 6/10: No effect shown in all of his international outings and propping the back three up at times. But he still has a fifty pee head
Robinson 5/10: Looked nervy and unsupported at times leading to some threepio moments
RND 2/10: Poor outing. Was being run ragged and a bit wasteful in attack. Can't cross to save his fucking life
Norwood (the usual) 4/10: Back to his expected fancy-dan passing which often doesn't find its target and puts us on the back foot and when given a chance on a plate, finds the keeper with a backpass. He was poor and pointy today. Again.
Berge 3/10: Wasteful, laconic and unproductive. One good game in four isn't good enough
Fleck 3/10: Jimmy Fleck today.
MGW 7.5/10: Tried vainly to spark some fucking movement forward, to no real effect. Often leading up blind alleys or ending in failure, but at least he is fucking trying. We are gonna miss this bloke when we eventually fail to pay for him. Often moves past people but seems to not trust the shower of lavatory bowls around him in red and white
Jebbison 2/10: Poor kid

Ndaiye 4/10: No real effect, even when linking with others. I hope he hasn't suddenly turned into shite
Osborn 4/10: No idea why he replaced MGW. Unlucky with the shot
Osula - never noticed him on TBH

I now don't think we will be promoted, or deserve to be in fact with that performance. We are like a slowly deflating balloon, whilst others seem to be able to retain their filling. Injuries? Not really an excuse. We have seven or eight PL level players playing today and they all looked Division One. Depressing stuff. HJ&SM need to sort this shit out by Tuesday because QPR will mow us down if not.

pommpey

pommpey
Seventh. That’s a riproaringly good report from you.
 
Fair analysis on the game, I don’t agree with the scoring but that’s your opinion. MGW was just as wasteful as the rest is probably have his score more in line with the rest

This 5-3-1-1 system just doesn’t work for me, leaves the striker so isolated & the only creativity comes from the wingback who as you said can’t cross
 
This season is all about light and shade, isn't it? The dazzling brilliance of us smashing Swansea and Middlesbrough at Bramall Lane, the abject surrender to Coventry and the 'never even turned up-ness' of Millwall and todays very poor showing. Across the pitch, this afternoon is an example to everyone who deigns to own a negative point of view as vindication and a further example of the bald fact that is we fluke a promotion, or even if we stay in this division, any further progress cannot be with at least 60% of the current squad. We can't be dealing with inconsistency and matches where we turn up and play poor sides and simply give the game to them. Even if we have ground out a 0-0 draw today and their goal hadn't flukishly gone past Fodders, we were ineffective, negative and unconfident to even get the basics of football right. As much as it pains me to say, we deserved to lose. Hate myself for saying that, but we did.

The usual first ten minute flurry was expected and as much as we pressured Stoke, really we aren't going anywhere. If you've played football at any level and you have the upper hand in any phase of the game and keep plugging and keep plugging and fail to score, one of the worst psychological things to happen is to hear their defence say to each other 'keep your shape, they're going nowhere this lot' because if you have no plan B (and we haven't) it's a case of huffing and puffing until they finally break out and score. And that is exactly what happened. Even boxing ... you have your opponent on the ropes but every punch you throw is hitting arms, gloves, shoulders, arms again ... and you are losing energy with every punch you give fails to score points and drains your resolve. It's not as though Stoke today were a slugging opponent who wouldn't go down. They were as profligate as we were with possession and tended to lump it up the pitch but as much as we cam e back at them, they knew we wouldn't even dent their paintwork. And what is it about something happening in the match - in this case the ref getting boffed by the ball in the gob - which suddenly switches us off and into 'we don't know what we are doing' mode? After that happened suddenly we are a different side, struggling to keep the ball, faffing about trying to find the perfect pass, afraid to go past players and even shoot. Does anyone seriously think we have the horsepower to firstly secure a playoff position, then take a team on over two legs then go to our killing field of a playoff final and actually win? Based on today?

Hecky has worked wonders with this lot so far. But to me it is clear we still have the stubborn stains of Wilderball firmly farted into the fabric and given as we still play the same old 5-3-2 and have the same players, when we 'hold it up to the light, we still see the shite'. We still have quite a few tagnuts, whinnets and dangleberries caught fast in our pump-pubes and for me, we need to wire brush the fuckers out. The midfield today, as much as we chant and mantra that Fleck is somehow 'good', Norwood 'makes us tick' and the expensive flop that is Sander Berge who can't turn it on every third game, never mine every other game, showed where our problems lie. They were ineffective, left to right, front to back. They sat isolated from defence and isolated from attack, trying their best to simply play fucking football and failing dismally. At the back, yeah, we had Furious back to add some rigidity (if not silly machismo) but on the other side the flagging RND screamed 'sub the cunt for Osborn' from about the tenth minute. And the only player worth anything - and he's not even ours - trolled a lonely path trying to 'create' (a word alien to our players) and find Jebbison who looked forlorn and Sharp like up front chasing shadows and looking like he'd rather be back at Burton where someone can find him with a through ball or a cross.

Foderingham 6/10: Hardly troubled much and mainly in the right place at the right time. No chance with their goal.
Baldock 5/10: Nice to see him back and maybe a couple of games to get him back into the swing of things. But for fucks sake George, there's 'passion' and then there's being a dick. Discover the difference between the two please.
Davies 5/10: Barely gets that because of his key interception but today looked well behind that game in many areas
Egan 6/10: No effect shown in all of his international outings and propping the back three up at times. But he still has a fifty pee head
Robinson 5/10: Looked nervy and unsupported at times leading to some threepio moments
RND 2/10: Poor outing. Was being run ragged and a bit wasteful in attack. Can't cross to save his fucking life
Norwood (the usual) 4/10: Back to his expected fancy-dan passing which often doesn't find its target and puts us on the back foot and when given a chance on a plate, finds the keeper with a backpass. He was poor and pointy today. Again.
Berge 3/10: Wasteful, laconic and unproductive. One good game in four isn't good enough
Fleck 3/10: Jimmy Fleck today.
MGW 7.5/10: Tried vainly to spark some fucking movement forward, to no real effect. Often leading up blind alleys or ending in failure, but at least he is fucking trying. We are gonna miss this bloke when we eventually fail to pay for him. Often moves past people but seems to not trust the shower of lavatory bowls around him in red and white
Jebbison 2/10: Poor kid

Ndaiye 4/10: No real effect, even when linking with others. I hope he hasn't suddenly turned into shite
Osborn 4/10: No idea why he replaced MGW. Unlucky with the shot
Osula - never noticed him on TBH

I now don't think we will be promoted, or deserve to be in fact with that performance. We are like a slowly deflating balloon, whilst others seem to be able to retain their filling. Injuries? Not really an excuse. We have seven or eight PL level players playing today and they all looked Division One. Depressing stuff. HJ&SM need to sort this shit out by Tuesday because QPR will mow us down if not.

pommpey

pommpey
Ca t disagree with most of that( still a bit harsh as although the balloon is deflating we are still in with good chance if we maintain our home form )
Just think where we might be if the Serb had been left in charge for most of the season.
Any team being chopped and changed due to injuries would suffer a drop in form,Hecki doing a great job holding it together.
 
This season is all about light and shade, isn't it? The dazzling brilliance of us smashing Swansea and Middlesbrough at Bramall Lane, the abject surrender to Coventry and the 'never even turned up-ness' of Millwall and todays very poor showing. Across the pitch, this afternoon is an example to everyone who deigns to own a negative point of view as vindication and a further example of the bald fact that is we fluke a promotion, or even if we stay in this division, any further progress cannot be with at least 60% of the current squad. We can't be dealing with inconsistency and matches where we turn up and play poor sides and simply give the game to them. Even if we have ground out a 0-0 draw today and their goal hadn't flukishly gone past Fodders, we were ineffective, negative and unconfident to even get the basics of football right. As much as it pains me to say, we deserved to lose. Hate myself for saying that, but we did.

The usual first ten minute flurry was expected and as much as we pressured Stoke, really we aren't going anywhere. If you've played football at any level and you have the upper hand in any phase of the game and keep plugging and keep plugging and fail to score, one of the worst psychological things to happen is to hear their defence say to each other 'keep your shape, they're going nowhere this lot' because if you have no plan B (and we haven't) it's a case of huffing and puffing until they finally break out and score. And that is exactly what happened. Even boxing ... you have your opponent on the ropes but every punch you throw is hitting arms, gloves, shoulders, arms again ... and you are losing energy with every punch you give fails to score points and drains your resolve. It's not as though Stoke today were a slugging opponent who wouldn't go down. They were as profligate as we were with possession and tended to lump it up the pitch but as much as we cam e back at them, they knew we wouldn't even dent their paintwork. And what is it about something happening in the match - in this case the ref getting boffed by the ball in the gob - which suddenly switches us off and into 'we don't know what we are doing' mode? After that happened suddenly we are a different side, struggling to keep the ball, faffing about trying to find the perfect pass, afraid to go past players and even shoot. Does anyone seriously think we have the horsepower to firstly secure a playoff position, then take a team on over two legs then go to our killing field of a playoff final and actually win? Based on today?

Hecky has worked wonders with this lot so far. But to me it is clear we still have the stubborn stains of Wilderball firmly farted into the fabric and given as we still play the same old 5-3-2 and have the same players, when we 'hold it up to the light, we still see the shite'. We still have quite a few tagnuts, whinnets and dangleberries caught fast in our pump-pubes and for me, we need to wire brush the fuckers out. The midfield today, as much as we chant and mantra that Fleck is somehow 'good', Norwood 'makes us tick' and the expensive flop that is Sander Berge who can't turn it on every third game, never mine every other game, showed where our problems lie. They were ineffective, left to right, front to back. They sat isolated from defence and isolated from attack, trying their best to simply play fucking football and failing dismally. At the back, yeah, we had Furious back to add some rigidity (if not silly machismo) but on the other side the flagging RND screamed 'sub the cunt for Osborn' from about the tenth minute. And the only player worth anything - and he's not even ours - trolled a lonely path trying to 'create' (a word alien to our players) and find Jebbison who looked forlorn and Sharp like up front chasing shadows and looking like he'd rather be back at Burton where someone can find him with a through ball or a cross.

Foderingham 6/10: Hardly troubled much and mainly in the right place at the right time. No chance with their goal.
Baldock 5/10: Nice to see him back and maybe a couple of games to get him back into the swing of things. But for fucks sake George, there's 'passion' and then there's being a dick. Discover the difference between the two please.
Davies 5/10: Barely gets that because of his key interception but today looked well behind that game in many areas
Egan 6/10: No effect shown in all of his international outings and propping the back three up at times. But he still has a fifty pee head
Robinson 5/10: Looked nervy and unsupported at times leading to some threepio moments
RND 2/10: Poor outing. Was being run ragged and a bit wasteful in attack. Can't cross to save his fucking life
Norwood (the usual) 4/10: Back to his expected fancy-dan passing which often doesn't find its target and puts us on the back foot and when given a chance on a plate, finds the keeper with a backpass. He was poor and pointy today. Again.
Berge 3/10: Wasteful, laconic and unproductive. One good game in four isn't good enough
Fleck 3/10: Jimmy Fleck today.
MGW 7.5/10: Tried vainly to spark some fucking movement forward, to no real effect. Often leading up blind alleys or ending in failure, but at least he is fucking trying. We are gonna miss this bloke when we eventually fail to pay for him. Often moves past people but seems to not trust the shower of lavatory bowls around him in red and white
Jebbison 2/10: Poor kid

Ndaiye 4/10: No real effect, even when linking with others. I hope he hasn't suddenly turned into shite
Osborn 4/10: No idea why he replaced MGW. Unlucky with the shot
Osula - never noticed him on TBH

I now don't think we will be promoted, or deserve to be in fact with that performance. We are like a slowly deflating balloon, whilst others seem to be able to retain their filling. Injuries? Not really an excuse. We have seven or eight PL level players playing today and they all looked Division One. Depressing stuff. HJ&SM need to sort this shit out by Tuesday because QPR will mow us down if not.

pommpey

pommpey
Spot on report.
The only thing to ask really is 'where was the desire'? But then when you think about it how many of this lot could you take to the Premier League with any confidence?
Foderingham ........ Championship Wes
Baldock ......... might do a job as a full back in a 4
Davies .......... the only games he will play for Liverpool will be early rounds of the League cup
Egan ........... not good enough without JOC to help him out
Robinson ......... Championship at best
RND ............ Lower Championship at best should have sent him to Forest rather than Lowe
Berge .......... I give up he has the talent just a shame he has no fucking desire
Norwood ........... Struggles even at this level and that is years after other clubs deemed him not good enough for the top tier.
Fleck ......... think the guy has found his level unless Jimmy shows up.
MGW .......... the only one who has a Premier League future
Jebbison ........... Yeah Poor kid living off a goal at Everton way too much expected of him

Ndaiye ........... seems to have regressed to another poor kid who isn't ready
Osborn ........... effort will only get him so far this is his level
Osula ............ another poor kid not ready.

Grim reading but it is worse when you factor in the injured players Moose , Burke are done at this club probably McBurnie too, would any of Bash, McGoldrick or Sharp get a new contract for a higher level? I think not.
JOC may never be back to the level he was. Maybe only Brewster and Bogle are the only ones who could step up.
Most of these players would be out of the door if we went up or we'd set a new all time low points score, maybe that explains their lack of desire, mid table Championship is their comfort zone.
Typical Sheffield United build you up only to fail once again it goes on and on and on and on again. Fucking load of shite 💩
 
What a load of bollocks - you've clearly not been to the match!??
Baldock was piss poor (everytime we gave him in oceans of space he just cut inside into traffic - plus he's labouring for their goal).
The mark for RND is bang out order - you clearly have an agenda?............yes, his final ball is poor (but add Enda/Ozzy/JLT into that too) - he was our best outlet 2nd half - its not his fault our midfield cannot see a pass).
& how can you see you didn't see Osula - he was a breath of fucking fresh air!
Am I missing something here?
 
What a load of bollocks - you've clearly not been to the match!??
Baldock was piss poor (everytime we gave him in oceans of space he just cut inside into traffic - plus he's labouring for their goal).
The mark for RND is bang out order - you clearly have an agenda?............yes, his final ball is poor (but add Enda/Ozzy/JLT into that too) - he was our best outlet 2nd half - its not his fault our midfield cannot see a pass).
& how can you see you didn't see Osula - he was a breath of fucking fresh air!
Am I missing something here?

Yeah, plenty. The fact that everyone has a point of view and it might not necessarily agree with yours. And maybe if you disagree, why not do it so you retain some dignity and kudos? Clearly not been to the match? Well, no. A bit of a long shot really but to satisfy your anger I did shell out a tenner to watch it on SUTV. That okay? Also, I don't usually do 'My takes ... ' on games I didn't watch. A bit daft really, y'think?

So yeah, I did call it as I saw it. And that means I though Baldock was better than RND, who I though wasteful and outpaced by his wingback marker. And as you say, his final ball - for a wingback - is shite. He didn't exactly find much attacking purchase even in that second half and save for a disputed penalty appeal, failed to make an impact.

And no, for all his 'breath of fresh air', Osula didn't exactly set a poor Stoke backline on fire.

pommpey
 
Spot on analysis, not just of this game but the whole season, we really need to rebuild, and we have players who are more than enough for this league, but also have players that are dragging us down and living off past performances/ glory of 3/4 seasons ago. I rate hecky and just hope he is backed to not only cull the dead wood but also bring in the players who can lift us and take into where we belong
 
I agree with 95% and an excellent intro to the marks. RND for me was/ is poor but it was a 5.

Midfield today appalling - lack of ideas, always taking the easy option, no drive, hiding - If I was anyone one of these Midfielders I'd be upset and embarrassed by that performance, Stoke were atrocious there just was zero drive and desire from all 3- downright annoying.
 



"But to me it is clear we still have the stubborn stains of Wilderball firmly farted into the fabric and given as we still play the same old 5-3-2 and have the same players, when we 'hold it up to the light, we still see the shite'. We still have quite a few tagnuts, whinnets and dangleberries caught fast in our pump-pubes and for me, we need to wire brush the fuckers out."

Tell me honestly, do you think these up in advance or does it kind of flow naturally as you type? 😂
 
Pommpey - to be honest pal, I respect your views & opinions as a whole..........I too don't attend every game so I enjoy your reports normally, But today I thought you have it wrong..........it was there for the taking today, as Stoke were poor/flat (especially after the Forest 4-01 win at Blackpool - which surely our lads knew?).............but the our attitude & ethos today was piss poor............ie, not really bothered attitude. Baldock clearly isn't fit (I like him, but he was piss poor today), Fleck might as well have sat with me first half, Berge was on his daddy's yacht, and MGW not at the races (maybe ill as some have reported). JLT got caught in possession early and seem to knock his confidence (he's been good too recently), Ben Davies is a square peg in a round hole (as their goal illustrated). So that just leaves Wes (nowt to do really) Egan (meh), RND - I actually thought he was our MOM (& deffo pen), and Jebbo who ran his arse off with no support. Yes, that just leaves Norwood..............so, in the pre match analysis of Stoke............didn't anyone pick up on Joe Allen being their best player?..............fuck me, he could have tied his shoe laces during the game he had that much room...........does Oli think he's above doing a job on someone like this?
I think we need to get used to Illiman, Jebbo, RND, Osula, and a few other young uns- cus they will be the main stay next season! - maybe not a bad thing?
 
"But to me it is clear we still have the stubborn stains of Wilderball firmly farted into the fabric and given as we still play the same old 5-3-2 and have the same players, when we 'hold it up to the light, we still see the shite'. We still have quite a few tagnuts, whinnets and dangleberries caught fast in our pump-pubes and for me, we need to wire brush the fuckers out."

Tell me honestly, do you think these up in advance or does it kind of flow naturally as you type? 😂

It just flows.

:)

pommpey
 
This season is all about light and shade, isn't it? The dazzling brilliance of us smashing Swansea and Middlesbrough at Bramall Lane, the abject surrender to Coventry and the 'never even turned up-ness' of Millwall and todays very poor showing. Across the pitch, this afternoon is an example to everyone who deigns to own a negative point of view as vindication and a further example of the bald fact that is we fluke a promotion, or even if we stay in this division, any further progress cannot be with at least 60% of the current squad. We can't be dealing with inconsistency and matches where we turn up and play poor sides and simply give the game to them. Even if we have ground out a 0-0 draw today and their goal hadn't flukishly gone past Fodders, we were ineffective, negative and unconfident to even get the basics of football right. As much as it pains me to say, we deserved to lose. Hate myself for saying that, but we did.

The usual first ten minute flurry was expected and as much as we pressured Stoke, really we aren't going anywhere. If you've played football at any level and you have the upper hand in any phase of the game and keep plugging and keep plugging and fail to score, one of the worst psychological things to happen is to hear their defence say to each other 'keep your shape, they're going nowhere this lot' because if you have no plan B (and we haven't) it's a case of huffing and puffing until they finally break out and score. And that is exactly what happened. Even boxing ... you have your opponent on the ropes but every punch you throw is hitting arms, gloves, shoulders, arms again ... and you are losing energy with every punch you give fails to score points and drains your resolve. It's not as though Stoke today were a slugging opponent who wouldn't go down. They were as profligate as we were with possession and tended to lump it up the pitch but as much as we cam e back at them, they knew we wouldn't even dent their paintwork. And what is it about something happening in the match - in this case the ref getting boffed by the ball in the gob - which suddenly switches us off and into 'we don't know what we are doing' mode? After that happened suddenly we are a different side, struggling to keep the ball, faffing about trying to find the perfect pass, afraid to go past players and even shoot. Does anyone seriously think we have the horsepower to firstly secure a playoff position, then take a team on over two legs then go to our killing field of a playoff final and actually win? Based on today?

Hecky has worked wonders with this lot so far. But to me it is clear we still have the stubborn stains of Wilderball firmly farted into the fabric and given as we still play the same old 5-3-2 and have the same players, when we 'hold it up to the light, we still see the shite'. We still have quite a few tagnuts, whinnets and dangleberries caught fast in our pump-pubes and for me, we need to wire brush the fuckers out. The midfield today, as much as we chant and mantra that Fleck is somehow 'good', Norwood 'makes us tick' and the expensive flop that is Sander Berge who can't turn it on every third game, never mine every other game, showed where our problems lie. They were ineffective, left to right, front to back. They sat isolated from defence and isolated from attack, trying their best to simply play fucking football and failing dismally. At the back, yeah, we had Furious back to add some rigidity (if not silly machismo) but on the other side the flagging RND screamed 'sub the cunt for Osborn' from about the tenth minute. And the only player worth anything - and he's not even ours - trolled a lonely path trying to 'create' (a word alien to our players) and find Jebbison who looked forlorn and Sharp like up front chasing shadows and looking like he'd rather be back at Burton where someone can find him with a through ball or a cross.

Foderingham 6/10: Hardly troubled much and mainly in the right place at the right time. No chance with their goal.
Baldock 5/10: Nice to see him back and maybe a couple of games to get him back into the swing of things. But for fucks sake George, there's 'passion' and then there's being a dick. Discover the difference between the two please.
Davies 5/10: Barely gets that because of his key interception but today looked well behind that game in many areas
Egan 6/10: No effect shown in all of his international outings and propping the back three up at times. But he still has a fifty pee head
Robinson 5/10: Looked nervy and unsupported at times leading to some threepio moments
RND 2/10: Poor outing. Was being run ragged and a bit wasteful in attack. Can't cross to save his fucking life
Norwood (the usual) 4/10: Back to his expected fancy-dan passing which often doesn't find its target and puts us on the back foot and when given a chance on a plate, finds the keeper with a backpass. He was poor and pointy today. Again.
Berge 3/10: Wasteful, laconic and unproductive. One good game in four isn't good enough
Fleck 3/10: Jimmy Fleck today.
MGW 7.5/10: Tried vainly to spark some fucking movement forward, to no real effect. Often leading up blind alleys or ending in failure, but at least he is fucking trying. We are gonna miss this bloke when we eventually fail to pay for him. Often moves past people but seems to not trust the shower of lavatory bowls around him in red and white
Jebbison 2/10: Poor kid

Ndaiye 4/10: No real effect, even when linking with others. I hope he hasn't suddenly turned into shite
Osborn 4/10: No idea why he replaced MGW. Unlucky with the shot
Osula - never noticed him on TBH

I now don't think we will be promoted, or deserve to be in fact with that performance. We are like a slowly deflating balloon, whilst others seem to be able to retain their filling. Injuries? Not really an excuse. We have seven or eight PL level players playing today and they all looked Division One. Depressing stuff. HJ&SM need to sort this shit out by Tuesday because QPR will mow us down if not.

pommpey

pommpey
Said it how it is pal bit harsh on RND he had a decent 2nd half 5/10
But we are struggling on the road and a million miles from being survivors in the prem.
 
It's a funny old game as they say, I thought RND was absolute fucking gash, I'd give him a 1 out of sympathy, and that's it. Can't beat a man, can't cross, can't pick a pass and his defending is pub league standard. Thank God we've got Enda recovering........oh fucking hell 😱😱😱

So we're weak at left back, or whatever you call it these days, and while Davis is tidy when we're on top, he's a soft touch under pressure, as are Egan and Robinson, who despite his recent flukishly good form, reverted to type today. All the back 5 were fucking dodgy against one of the shittest, most lightweight sides we've played all season.

Midfield was fucking dire. Norwood pointing, posing and doing fuck all. Fleck played two lovely passes late on, shame about the previous 319,000 and fucking Berge? Tell you what kid, next time you can't be arsed, let the gaffer know beforehand and you can go clothes shopping and play a youngster because you can guarantee he'll put more fucking effort in than you did today.

MGW tried to make things happen, must be soul destroying when all around are walking, pointing and not looking bothered. Jebbison got fuck all to work with and the young 'un who came on had a similar amount of service, although he tried to put himself about I felt sorry for him because no one else fucking cared.

Overreaction? Not really, some fucker needs to sit this lot down and explain the expectation, we know we won't win every game but laying down and dying against that fucking shower? They should be ashamed.
 
wonder if Liverpool would be chasing down man city if they were missing alexander Arnold jota mane salah milner robertson van dyke minamino
fabinho Matip Henderson and Gomez all out injured


like we are missing 12 first choice players. it's really put a spanner in our engine room
 
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wonder if Liverpool would be chasing down man city if they were missing alexander Arnold jota mane salah milner robertson van dyke minamino
fabinho Matip Henderson and Gomez all out injured


like we are missing 12 first choice players. it's really put a spanner in our engine room
I know it's late but how is it possible to be missing 12 first choice players?
 
wonder if Liverpool would be chasing down man city if they were missing alexander Arnold jota mane salah milner robertson van dyke minamino
fabinho Matip Henderson and Gomez all out injured


like we are missing 12 first choice players. it's really put a spanner in our engine room
Possibly not, but one thing that's 100% certain is they would give it a good go and definitely play with more desire than we did today.
 
"...Osula - never noticed him on TBH..."

He put more effort in, in the last 10 minutes, than some of the team did all game. He's younger than Jebbo, which is maybe why he started on the bench, but he is bigger, faster and stronger and his first charge forward, he shouldered their defender off the ball, in fact he did the same again, not long after.

While I won't slate Jebbo, there was that moment where the ball landed at his feet, in the box, and he froze and sort of stared at the ball for a second, before kicking it, if that ball lands at Billy's feet, it's in the back of the net. Like I said, I won't slate him, he is still young and learning.
 
Hecky comes over to me a like a caretaker manager - yeah I’m doing a professional job with what I’ve got but don’t ask me for passion or inspirational leadership. We badly need some of that. So many changes every match and so little cohesiveness and understanding between the players leading to shambolic low key team performances As confidence and adrenaline leaks away. As usual we are crap after an international break and looked like an underprepared team, particularly the kids. Wouldn’t surprise me if we are suddenly better against qpr but we need some momentum and quickly. At least there is some interest going into last few games. If we were In a position like stoke which could easily have happened Blade misery would be overwhelming instead of just a bit depressing which is what we have to put up with tonight.
 
The writing was on the wall when i went to chemist at Manor Top and shutters were down with a message saying we are closed because all our pharmasist's have covid,i knew then it was going to be one of those days.
 
I think Hecky said in post match interview that mgw was ill last night, may have contributed to his second half performance?
What an amazing excuse for losing against one of the worst teams (form) In the league. Keep clapping Ching
 



This season is all about light and shade, isn't it? The dazzling brilliance of us smashing Swansea and Middlesbrough at Bramall Lane, the abject surrender to Coventry and the 'never even turned up-ness' of Millwall and todays very poor showing. Across the pitch, this afternoon is an example to everyone who deigns to own a negative point of view as vindication and a further example of the bald fact that is we fluke a promotion, or even if we stay in this division, any further progress cannot be with at least 60% of the current squad. We can't be dealing with inconsistency and matches where we turn up and play poor sides and simply give the game to them. Even if we have ground out a 0-0 draw today and their goal hadn't flukishly gone past Fodders, we were ineffective, negative and unconfident to even get the basics of football right. As much as it pains me to say, we deserved to lose. Hate myself for saying that, but we did.

The usual first ten minute flurry was expected and as much as we pressured Stoke, really we aren't going anywhere. If you've played football at any level and you have the upper hand in any phase of the game and keep plugging and keep plugging and fail to score, one of the worst psychological things to happen is to hear their defence say to each other 'keep your shape, they're going nowhere this lot' because if you have no plan B (and we haven't) it's a case of huffing and puffing until they finally break out and score. And that is exactly what happened. Even boxing ... you have your opponent on the ropes but every punch you throw is hitting arms, gloves, shoulders, arms again ... and you are losing energy with every punch you give fails to score points and drains your resolve. It's not as though Stoke today were a slugging opponent who wouldn't go down. They were as profligate as we were with possession and tended to lump it up the pitch but as much as we cam e back at them, they knew we wouldn't even dent their paintwork. And what is it about something happening in the match - in this case the ref getting boffed by the ball in the gob - which suddenly switches us off and into 'we don't know what we are doing' mode? After that happened suddenly we are a different side, struggling to keep the ball, faffing about trying to find the perfect pass, afraid to go past players and even shoot. Does anyone seriously think we have the horsepower to firstly secure a playoff position, then take a team on over two legs then go to our killing field of a playoff final and actually win? Based on today?

Hecky has worked wonders with this lot so far. But to me it is clear we still have the stubborn stains of Wilderball firmly farted into the fabric and given as we still play the same old 5-3-2 and have the same players, when we 'hold it up to the light, we still see the shite'. We still have quite a few tagnuts, whinnets and dangleberries caught fast in our pump-pubes and for me, we need to wire brush the fuckers out. The midfield today, as much as we chant and mantra that Fleck is somehow 'good', Norwood 'makes us tick' and the expensive flop that is Sander Berge who can't turn it on every third game, never mine every other game, showed where our problems lie. They were ineffective, left to right, front to back. They sat isolated from defence and isolated from attack, trying their best to simply play fucking football and failing dismally. At the back, yeah, we had Furious back to add some rigidity (if not silly machismo) but on the other side the flagging RND screamed 'sub the cunt for Osborn' from about the tenth minute. And the only player worth anything - and he's not even ours - trolled a lonely path trying to 'create' (a word alien to our players) and find Jebbison who looked forlorn and Sharp like up front chasing shadows and looking like he'd rather be back at Burton where someone can find him with a through ball or a cross.

Foderingham 6/10: Hardly troubled much and mainly in the right place at the right time. No chance with their goal.
Baldock 5/10: Nice to see him back and maybe a couple of games to get him back into the swing of things. But for fucks sake George, there's 'passion' and then there's being a dick. Discover the difference between the two please.
Davies 5/10: Barely gets that because of his key interception but today looked well behind that game in many areas
Egan 6/10: No effect shown in all of his international outings and propping the back three up at times. But he still has a fifty pee head
Robinson 5/10: Looked nervy and unsupported at times leading to some threepio moments
RND 2/10: Poor outing. Was being run ragged and a bit wasteful in attack. Can't cross to save his fucking life
Norwood (the usual) 4/10: Back to his expected fancy-dan passing which often doesn't find its target and puts us on the back foot and when given a chance on a plate, finds the keeper with a backpass. He was poor and pointy today. Again.
Berge 3/10: Wasteful, laconic and unproductive. One good game in four isn't good enough
Fleck 3/10: Jimmy Fleck today.
MGW 7.5/10: Tried vainly to spark some fucking movement forward, to no real effect. Often leading up blind alleys or ending in failure, but at least he is fucking trying. We are gonna miss this bloke when we eventually fail to pay for him. Often moves past people but seems to not trust the shower of lavatory bowls around him in red and white
Jebbison 2/10: Poor kid

Ndaiye 4/10: No real effect, even when linking with others. I hope he hasn't suddenly turned into shite
Osborn 4/10: No idea why he replaced MGW. Unlucky with the shot
Osula - never noticed him on TBH

I now don't think we will be promoted, or deserve to be in fact with that performance. We are like a slowly deflating balloon, whilst others seem to be able to retain their filling. Injuries? Not really an excuse. We have seven or eight PL level players playing today and they all looked Division One. Depressing stuff. HJ&SM need to sort this shit out by Tuesday because QPR will mow us down if not.

pommpey

pommpey

I have to say that your overall summary is probably the best piece of work you have ever produced .

Well considered , wonderfully descriptive , highly perceptive and with more than a dash of wicked humour , it made for a thoroughly enjoyable and thought provoking read .

Well done . 10/10
 

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