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Good grief!
I've watched the Blades for 43 years and never seen any player better than TC.
The comparison with Kevin McDonald doesn't stand up to any form of scrutiny.

TC is in the top 50 out-field players I've ever seen: I've seen thousands

Please don't confuse Mr McDonald with the real thing
 



1971/2

Great Thread - Great Memories & Happy Days. Currie, Woodward, Salmons, Billy Dearden, Len Badger - 1971/2 - Top of 1st Division for about 6 weeks or so - ACE

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Great Thread - Great Memories & Happy Days. Currie, Woodward, Salmons, Billy Dearden, Len Badger - 1971/2 - Top of 1st Division for about 6 weeks or so - ACE

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God. Them games. I was at the Leeds one (was it this one where TC beat Sprake with a 30 yarder?) The Hudds Town one and the Spurs one. Remember the 0-2 with Man U with Bests superb run on our team to score past John Hope and Flynny. Seem to remember a Man City game at BDTBL where Franny Lee got sent off as well.

This is what made me a Blade.

And Woodward was, for me, my all-time hero, marginally above TC.

pommpey
 
Yeah, now yer talking. Saw Woodward score twice direct from the corner kick. Once at the lane and once at Leicester. Only ever seen it done once since then.
 
I've been thinking about this and I think TC would struggle in the current day with the new pitches - too dry.
TC walked on water.
 
woodward was better than tony currie

ooooh controversial

best striker of a dead ball Ive ever seen
remember the one at coventry ,40 yards from a standing position , how he hit it that hard Ill never know, and him ripping the net out at west ham
and 4 goal hauls from a winger , v ipswich h and portsmouth a

Gil Reece was very much under rated at the time , him and Dearden were my real heroes, the bread and butter type
 
ooooh controversial

best striker of a dead ball Ive ever seen
remember the one at coventry ,40 yards from a standing position , how he hit it that hard Ill never know, and him ripping the net out at west ham
and 4 goal hauls from a winger , v ipswich h and portsmouth a

Gil Reece was very much under rated at the time , him and Dearden were my real heroes, the bread and butter type

Gil Reece is my all time hero along with Stuart Adamson. My daughter is called Olivia Reece after 2 of the great icons of my youth.
 
Has anyone noticed the similarities between Flynn and Messi?

UTB
 
what a fookin team we had ...TC,Woody,Gil,Ted,Len,Hodgy,Eddie....................... an yer know what sum Blades were even moanin then ! :D
 
Gil Reece, God rest his soul, was an outstanding winger and for such a small bloke I once saw him score one of the most magnificent headed goals ever at the kop end. I also remember TC sending a long ball into the right channel. Bill Dearden was running towards the penalty area of the opposition and as as the ball dropped over his right shoulder he volleyed it into the opposite corner. Can anyone remember it? It was stunning.
 
the night we tonked Cardiff ,promotion decider, 40 odd thousand rising as one as goal Reece hit a banana hot, never seen a man bend a ball like Reece could, funnily enough his best ever goal was in a pre season friendly win at Aston Villa
we were the big top division club helping out the struggling 2nd division midlands team then
 



The only similarity between the two is that they both played in midfield. People say that Currie wouldn't cope in the modern game. I'll tell you what, stick McDonald in the top division in the early 70s and see how he coped with the tackling that was allowed then.

As has been mentioned, most teams had a midfield maestro type in the Currie mould, but alongside them there was also a snarling, aggressive enforcer type whose job was to stop the opposition maestro playing and get the ball to their own maestro so he could play. One tackle from Bremner, Storey, Hockey et al and McDonald would crawl off the pitch whimpering like a scalded puppy!
 
Yes , you knew every team had a hatchet man ,chopper harris nobby stiles Tommy Smith bobby giles Maurice Setters , coventrys George Curtis and there was the occasional surprise , package
like Willie Carlin who I saw break Alan Balls leg from close up on the terrace, in retaliation to a Ball tackle
 
Watching him last night was a mixture of appreciation and absolute irritation at his laziness. First time passing, switching the play, unflustered when on the ball to 'oh he is 1 meter away I will let him run with the ball and take a breather' 'I am not going to tackle and get my knees dirty.
What I was thinking though is how similar is he too Currie, who I never saw play? Would Currie do any tackling, chase back and how would he survive in the modern game or was he like McDonald? (BTW I am not saying that McDonald is as good as Currie just that they are similar in their style).

Copes, I'm surprised how many people have leapt at your throat without reading/understanding your question! TC seems to inspire this strange behaviour when people ask a reasonable comparison question, some of the replies you've received are undeserved.
My opinion for what it's worth - In MacDonalds early days before everyone turned on him, I compared him (on here) to Keith Eddy, mainly due to his stature and playing style. Having had a more rounded look at him, he can't do what Eddy did so well in the defensive side of of a midfielders game. He certainly strokes the ball around very well and would be able to do this in whatever division or era he was playing in. However, its obvious why KM has been passed over by Burnley and better teams than SUFC, he doesn't work quite as hard as he should off the ball.
On that last point, I'll mention that neither did TC when the mood took him, he was a moody player and when he wasn't in the right frame of mind, he could look like he didn't want to be on the field, let alone contribute! But when he was on his game, he was phenomenal, inconsistency was his biggest enemy. He could tackle with the best of them and was a nasty b*astard at times (nothing wrong there!), he had everything except the mental strength to turn it on week in, week out. Thats why he remained at SUFC for 7 or 8 years and only won a handful of caps, had he had the mindset and consistency to go with his incredible ability, he'd have played for Man U, Liverpool etc.. (the Leeds team he joined was going downhill and not the force it had been). The reason we laud him and Jimy Hagan so much is because we've had so much mediocrity over the years.

As for Puppet's opinion - Woody was a different sort of player, lacked TC's all round game and couldn't tackle to save his life. However, his explosive skills were second to none and his work on dead balls were a rare commodity in those days. He never played for England and spent his entire career in the UK at BDTBL, in our history he is up there with the best, in the history of the game as a whole, people might say - Alan Who?
 
Well, both are footballers. but that's as far as it goes. Brian Deane was the best striker we've ever had. Chris Porter isn't even the best Chris Porter we've ever had.

Whilst his was crap and over the hill when he was with us Ian Rush must have been our best?

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McDonalds and curries ? might give that a go.

Only way they can be in the same sentence

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woodward was better than tony currie

Kids who are reading this have no idea how good we were in 71.

On their day Salmons, Woody and Reece could all be viewed as better than TC, god we were spoiled.
 
Watching him last night was a mixture of appreciation and absolute irritation at his laziness. First time passing, switching the play, unflustered when on the ball to 'oh he is 1 meter away I will let him run with the ball and take a breather' 'I am not going to tackle and get my knees dirty.
What I was thinking though is how similar is he too Currie, who I never saw play? Would Currie do any tackling, chase back and how would he survive in the modern game or was he like McDonald? (BTW I am not saying that McDonald is as good as Currie just that they are similar in their style).

Copes, I'm surprised how many people have leapt at your throat without reading/understanding your question! TC seems to inspire this strange behaviour when people ask a reasonable comparison question, some of the replies you've received are undeserved.
My opinion for what it's worth - In MacDonalds early days before everyone turned on him, I compared him (on here) to Keith Eddy, mainly due to his stature and playing style. Having had a more rounded look at him, he can't do what Eddy did so well in the defensive side of of a midfielders game. He certainly strokes the ball around very well and would be able to do this in whatever division or era he was playing in. However, its obvious why KM has been passed over by Burnley and better teams than SUFC, he doesn't work quite as hard as he should off the ball.
On that last point, I'll mention that neither did TC when the mood took him, he was a moody player and when he wasn't in the right frame of mind, he could look like he didn't want to be on the field, let alone contribute! But when he was on his game, he was phenomenal, inconsistency was his biggest enemy. He could tackle with the best of them and was a nasty b*astard at times (nothing wrong there!), he had everything except the mental strength to turn it on week in, week out. Thats why he remained at SUFC for 7 or 8 years and only won a handful of caps, had he had the mindset and consistency to go with his incredible ability, he'd have played for Man U, Liverpool etc.. (the Leeds team he joined was going downhill and not the force it had been). The reason we laud him and Jimy Hagan so much is because we've had so much mediocrity over the years.

As for Puppet's opinion - Woody was a different sort of player, lacked TC's all round game and couldn't tackle to save his life. However, his explosive skills were second to none and his work on dead balls were a rare commodity in those days. He never played for England and spent his entire career in the UK at BDTBL, in our history he is up there with the best, in the history of the game as a whole, people might say - Alan Who?

Didn't Woody get called up to play for a football league side? Not the same as a cap of course.
 
Currie was football remember many things from him his goal against Liverpool, and a narrow angle hammer against Stoke at the cop end.
 
Watching him last night was a mixture of appreciation and absolute irritation at his laziness. First time passing, switching the play, unflustered when on the ball to 'oh he is 1 meter away I will let him run with the ball and take a breather' 'I am not going to tackle and get my knees dirty.
What I was thinking though is how similar is he too Currie, who I never saw play? Would Currie do any tackling, chase back and how would he survive in the modern game or was he like McDonald? (BTW I am not saying that McDonald is as good as Currie just that they are similar in their style).

Copes, I'm surprised how many people have leapt at your throat without reading/understanding your question! TC seems to inspire this strange behaviour when people ask a reasonable comparison question, some of the replies you've received are undeserved.
My opinion for what it's worth - In MacDonalds early days before everyone turned on him, I compared him (on here) to Keith Eddy, mainly due to his stature and playing style. Having had a more rounded look at him, he can't do what Eddy did so well in the defensive side of of a midfielders game. He certainly strokes the ball around very well and would be able to do this in whatever division or era he was playing in. However, its obvious why KM has been passed over by Burnley and better teams than SUFC, he doesn't work quite as hard as he should off the ball.
On that last point, I'll mention that neither did TC when the mood took him, he was a moody player and when he wasn't in the right frame of mind, he could look like he didn't want to be on the field, let alone contribute! But when he was on his game, he was phenomenal, inconsistency was his biggest enemy. He could tackle with the best of them and was a nasty b*astard at times (nothing wrong there!), he had everything except the mental strength to turn it on week in, week out. Thats why he remained at SUFC for 7 or 8 years and only won a handful of caps, had he had the mindset and consistency to go with his incredible ability, he'd have played for Man U, Liverpool etc.. (the Leeds team he joined was going downhill and not the force it had been). The reason we laud him and Jimy Hagan so much is because we've had so much mediocrity over the years.

As for Puppet's opinion - Woody was a different sort of player, lacked TC's all round game and couldn't tackle to save his life. However, his explosive skills were second to none and his work on dead balls were a rare commodity in those days. He never played for England and spent his entire career in the UK at BDTBL, in our history he is up there with the best, in the history of the game as a whole, people might say - Alan Who?

Except in the mid 70s Man Utd were a declining force like Leeds and got relegated. Having said that Currie was wanted by Busby as the replacement for the ageing Charlton, but TC didn't fancy it. The relegation sort of proved him right, but then again had he signed would they have gone down?
 
Great Thread - Great Memories & Happy Days. Currie, Woodward, Salmons, Billy Dearden, Len Badger - 1971/2 - Top of 1st Division for about 6 weeks or so - ACE View attachment 4599

A question for those old enough to remember that season.
What went wrong after we lost to Man Utd? How come we ended up losing the next three also and only finished ninth?
Did we sell anyone? Or get injuries to key players? Or did other teams work out how to counteract us?
Were we a team who played better on good pitches and didn't do so well in winter conditions?
Or were we just over-achieving when we were top for six weeks? Was ninth about our level really?
Could the board at the time have invested in a couple of players to keep the momentum going?

http://www.statto.com/football/teams/sheffield-united/1971-1972/results
 
A question for those old enough to remember that season.
What went wrong after we lost to Man Utd? How come we ended up losing the next three also and only finished ninth?
Did we sell anyone? Or get injuries to key players? Or did other teams work out how to counteract us?
Were we a team who played better on good pitches and didn't do so well in winter conditions?
Or were we just over-achieving when we were top for six weeks? Was ninth about our level really?
Could the board at the time have invested in a couple of players to keep the momentum going?

http://www.statto.com/football/teams/sheffield-united/1971-1972/results

I remember seeing that team but too young to remember the league and the overall perspective around how the decline happened.
One thing I can tell is that the SUFC board in those days was as tight as a knackers arse so there was no chance of adding a couple of players to change things around no matter what injuries or loss of form there was. Many people bang on about McCabe but in those days they were typical old school and cared little for speculating on players to win honours.

Heard Alan Hodgkinson on his radio interview on RS recently state that when the maximum wage was scrapped and the best players in the London clubs got pay rises, Hodgey was told by Derrick Wragg (then chairman) something like - and I am paraphrasing here, "don't worry about that maximum wage lad, we're a team here and all get paid the same."

Yet antother example of "Change is not good."
 
>Or were we just over-achieving when we were top for six weeks? Was ninth about our level really?
probably.. FWIR (i was about 9 years old) we caught everyone on the hop because we went and attacked them.. a bit like blackpool did last year.. after about ten games people started to take us more seriously.. only ninth?? thats a pretty fair result in your first promoted season i reckon..

>what a fookin team we had ...TC,Woody,Gil,Ted,Len,Hodgy,Eddie
i think hope was in goal by then (hopeless my mum used to call him).. OTOMH the team was
1. hope
2. badger
3. hemsley
4. flynn
5. colquhoun
6. hockey
7. woodward
8. salmons
9. dearden
10. currie
11. reece
although i could be wrong about salmons.. he left and came back so i could be mixed up.. the fact that i can remember the lineup 40 years later says a lot about that team
 
what went wrong in the 70's ? ........... same owd ...same owd ! :eek:

mind yer if yer never saw TC yer've never lived as a Blade ............. fookin awesum !
 
It was like taking the engine out of a car and still expecting it to run when he left us. as usual money was offered and we took it, but why did he go to le ds of all places,
because they reckon Sunderland offered more for him at the time? Black day when he went. Then did'nt Hockey go to Norwich in exchange for Jim Bone or was that befor that? Memory not what it was, to much of watching the Blades I think lol.
 



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