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[247Blade]

What Blades bones have been picked to finance 'no marks' in "Princeys big game" ? How much of the Blades money has been invested in this "big game"? Any evidence ?

United World share the money so what's the point?

 

[Grappler]

Keep picking Blades bones to finance other no marks in Princeys big game .... sick of this nonsense we need owners who put this club first!

 

[Brewster Cost £70 million]

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Hes very good to those customers

 

[Karaoke Blade]

I wish I was tbh. It's like being stuck in Eeyore's head being on this forum.

We could be bought out by Elon Musk and there'd 100% be a thread started called "Yeh, but his cars are shit"

No chance. I hear Elon Musk ls actually buying out the club in Sheffield 6. He wants to pursue his ventures into outer space and he's heard Swillsborough would be ideal for training. There's absolutely no atmosphere.



......OK, I've already got mi coat

 

[Myleftpeg]

God help us

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[Myleftpeg]

God help us

Where going to need more then him

 

[247Blade]

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Nope

 

[bartman]

United World share the money so what's the point?

Share what money and with who ? What income that the football club earns goes to United World ? Can you direct to the bit in the accounts where it confirms this please ?

 

[SB_90]

well we are going to find if wilder was right to be a bit hesitant to foreign signings or if Prince was right to take the risk. because that Mexican stand off is a big contributor to the poor season we had

as prince wanted foreign signings but wilder didnt trust them if things got tough & prince couldnt afford domestic signings. so we got the worst of both worlds

 

[robbiez666]

I get that we are all a bunch of misanthropic bastards but does everything have to have a negative spin on it?

We spent ages complaining about Wilder's lack of overseas interest but the minute we start looking overseas.... "Nah, don't like it, probably going to be shit"

yeah, I don't get it either. I'd rather we were able to scout every league in the world and pick up the best bargains that just shop in the same window. A window the same people aren't happy about as the players aren't 'good enough'.

 

[robbiez666]

well we are going to find if wilder was right to be a bit hesitant to foreign signings

This whole foreign signings lark is ridiculous. Sure, they have to be the right signings, but it's 2022 and the leagues are full of foreign signings!

 

[247Blade]

Share what money and with who ? What income that the football club earns goes to United World ? Can you direct to the bit in the accounts where it confirms this please ?

Been on here for ages ... numerous people have commentedon it .... im not ITK just thought it was common knowledge ..obviously you have your own agenda so I will leave it there .... The future is shit The future unfortunately is United World!!

 

[Champagneblade]

Can’t wait for the longwinded pursuit of Sri Lanka’s second choice U21 goalkeeper, which inevitably fails at 23.59 after we realise he wouldn’t get a work permit.

What Nuwan Gimhana? Always rated him

 

[bartman]

Been on here for ages ... numerous people have commentedon it .... im not ITK just thought it was common knowledge ..obviously you have your own agenda so I will leave it there .... The future is shit The future unfortunately is United World!!

I haven't got any agenda. You have confirmed you actually don't know any facts about the financial affairs about the club and United World which is similar to myself. What this common knowledge bit is i am unsure.
The only agenda seems to be between you and the Prince/UnitedWorld but wouldn't it be best to find out the facts first before making assumptions ? All because people have commented on something on a forum or social media doesn't make it true. They may well have agendas themselves

 

[Champagneblade]

Who spent last week briefing that United had no say over Olsen, before Hecky revealed they did.

Didn't Hecky also reveal that he wouldn't be let go until we had a replacement in?

Hecky wanted him to stay until he had someone else in the building. Yet Roma and the player wanted him to move and he has in fact moved and a replacement has yet to arrive.

Doesn't exactly disprove Darren's point. Actions speaking louder than words and all that...

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

This whole foreign signings lark is ridiculous. Sure, they have to be the right signings, but it's 2022 and the leagues are full of foreign signings!

But, hasn't Brexit changed the landscape on foreign signings? When we were in the EU, and during the interim arrangements, it was easy to sign both established players & potential players who were nationals from an EU country. Now, it remains possible to sign established foreign players from a top foreign league. But, it's much harder to sign budget hidden gems from foreign leagues.
The English leagues are full of foreign signings who came here under Freedom Of Movement, or came here more recently as established stars easily meeting the post Brexit requirements.
Any English club whose recruitment strategy requires the scouting & signing of foreign, value for money, hidden gems is fucked. Aren't they?

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

I mean, let's have it simple. If/when Beerschot are relegated there is NO route for ANY player from ANY United World club to a UK (Governing Body Endorsement) Work Permit.

 

[robbiez666]

But, hasn't Brexit changed the landscape on foreign signings? When we were in the EU, and during the interim arrangements, it was easy to sign both established players & potential players who were nationals from an EU country. Now, it remains possible to sign established foreign players from a top foreign league. But, it's much harder to sign budget hidden gems from foreign leagues.
The leagues are full of foreign signings who came here under Freedom Of Movement, or came here more recently as established stars easily meeting the post Brexit requirements.
Any English club whose recruitment strategy requires the scouting & signing of foreign, value for money, hidden gems is fucked. Aren't they?

There's still plenty of players out there in top leagues who will qualify. It's obviously not as easy now but given Coulibaly would have qualified last year then it's still possible to pick up players from Europe that won't break the bank. You need a decent scouting network and using ones already there in Belgium and France will give us an edge.

I agree it would be a foolish strategy alone but it expands our horizons, not the opposite.

And we can loan from European top divisions, which largely have lower wages, fairly easily.

 

[robbiez666]

I mean, let's have it simple. If/when Beerschot are relegated there is NO route for ANY player from ANY United World club to a UK (Governing Body Endorsement) Work Permit.

The thing is, we have their scouting network. They'll have extensive knowledge of the Belgium leagues. Ditto to France. And, if they do go down, we'll have no competition from anyone else in UW for the better signings.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

I have ONE piece of itk information about United World & movement between clubs. When it became clear Sheffield United were releasing Stephen Mallon, United World wanted him to sign as a free agent for Al Hilal United. He didn't. And subsequently signed for Bohemians in Dublin.

 

[Yogi]

The thing is, we have their scouting network. They'll have extensive knowledge of the Belgium leagues. Ditto to France. And, if they do go down, we'll have no competition from anyone else in UW for the better signings.

Beerschot’s recruitment rivals ours for shiteness and we’ve had all the premier signings anyway Berge,Brewster,Mcburnie, Mousset they knock every other clubs signings into a cocked hat. When Beerschot go down we are cut off from United world for all the good it does.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

The thing is, we have their scouting network. They'll have extensive knowledge of the Belgium leagues. Ditto to France. And, if they do go down, we'll have no competition from anyone else in UW for the better signings.

Help me out with understanding that please. Is it United World's knowledge & scouting network that we'd be tapping into. Or is it the Beerschot & La Berrichonne knowledge & scouting networks we'd be tapping into. Or isn't there a difference?

 

[Yogi]

I have ONE piece of itk information about United World & movement between clubs. When it became clear Sheffield United were releasing Stephen Mallon, United World wanted him to sign as a free agent for Al Hilal United. He didn't. And subsequently signed for Bohemians in Dublin.

Al Hilal United seem to be the focus of the United World Academy or that’s the way it seems when you look at the website

 

[robbiez666]

Beerschot’s recruitment rivals ours for shiteness and we’ve had all the premier signings anyway Berge,Brewster,Mcburnie, Mousset they knock every other clubs signings into a cocked hat. When Beerschot go down we are cut off from United world for all the good it does.

Doesn't mean they're scouting is bad though, does it?
I assume it will be Mitchell talking to his equivalents and not through Van Winkle

 

[robbiez666]

Help me out with understanding that please. Is it United World's knowledge & scouting network that we'd be tapping into. Or is it the Beerschot & La Berrichonne knowledge & scouting networks we'd be tapping into. Or isn't there a difference?

I assumed it was the same thing? Beerschot will have scouts lists. I assume those feed into a central pot, but I'd also assume that scout would talk to scout and not through some central functionary. It makes no sense otherwise.

I'm obviously guessing here, so who knows how this weird organisation is set-up. They have 2598872 staff though, so you would think quite a few scouts in there!

 

[Yogi]

Doesn't mean they're scouting is bad though, does it?
I assume it will be Mitchell talking to his equivalents and not through Van Winkle

You’d have to talk to PurpleRain about the ins and outs of their scouting but the impression seems to be that it’s all being run through Van Winkle remotely from Dubai.

As to how the central United World system works who knows it’s amazing that at no point has a clear structure for the enterprise been set out. We have a United world chairman but as to where he sits in the chain of command your guess is as good as mine.

 

[Nick Jansky]

United World share the money so what's the point?

No they don’t. You’ve got that wrong. Maybe have a look at the published accounts?

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

I assumed it was the same thing? Beerschot will have scouts lists. I assume those feed into a central pot, but I'd also assume that scout would talk to scout and not through some central functionary. It makes no sense otherwise.

I'm interested in how people see all this working. So, thanks for answering. You'll forgive me. But I'll play it back generically.

Sheffield United cannot realistically sign players from the second tier (or below) in Belgium & France, as players will not get work permits.
Beerschot & La Berrichonne will clearly struggle to recruit players from tiers ABOVE them - that's the way it works.
Yet, scouts at Beerschot & La Berrichonne will be scouting players that they themselves couldn't hope to sign (ie from their top tiers), so that Sheffield United can sign them.
It's not a perfect plan is it?

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

It is of course worth explaining that the FA Governing Body Endorsement requirements (essentially the Work Permit rules) changed on 1 January 2022. As we can expect them to change on the opening of each & every transfer window in the future. So, any assessment of "he's eligible" (for instance Coulibaly) would now need to be done again using the new rules.

 

[robbiez666]

I'm interested in how people see all this working. So, thanks for answering. You'll forgive me. But I'll play it back generically.

Sheffield United cannot realistically sign players from the second tier (or below) in Belgium & France, as players will not get work permits.
Beerschot & La Berrichonne will clearly struggle to recruit players from tiers ABOVE them - that's the way it works.
Yet, scouts at Beerschot & La Berrichonne will be scouting players that they themselves couldn't hope to sign (ie from their top tiers), so that Sheffield United can sign them.
It's not a perfect plan is it?

But you're assuming that we wouldn't be looking to sign EPL reserves or development players? And in those games there wouldn't be other players coming back from injury and getting fitness, who might be of interest. Beerschot will be the same.

They also have 2 years records of scouting Belgium top league as well. And there will be players who they scout in the second division who go on to play in the higher division.

All I'm saying is, it's better than nothing. Worth investigating given it's free(ish).