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Tezza1889 said:
When you want to sell the oranges, you put the big juicy looking ones in the front window..

Hope this helps with everybody's questions on the questionable substitutions and team selections today..
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No - but it's helped with my grocery shop!
 

Blacksea said:
If we don't get in the play offs,or at least get the dead wood out in this window,we will have wasted more than a whole calendar year,going nowhere,doing nothing,and the recruitment to replace the dead wood has still not even begun.Even a team like Huddersfield are in better shape than us because they have got players in who are taking them forward,seem to have a recruitment policy run by people who can spot a player,and those players will have resale value if they continue to develop.
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Can't we replace the wood in the window with the juicy oranges?
 
Berge was our only player to show any real quality. He’s wasted the way we play him though - he should be further forward as he glides past players at times.

I’m no fan of Burke but he was better than most when he came on.

We are not good enough to continually miss sitters and get away with it. Thanks for the memories Didzy but time to move on.
 
pommpey said:
Okay. So he got his shirt pulled, v Arsenal, scored v Bristol Rovers, scored v Man U and ran down the wing today and crossed it.

Great player

pommpey
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No, definitely not great or even good, but on this particular match I thought he was better than your mark.
Will go halves on his taxi fare with you ?
 
Snowflake said:
No, definitely not great or even good, but on this particular match I thought he was better than your mark.
Will go halves on his taxi fare with you ?
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It's a deal.

I acknowledge, he ran around a bit. But he isn't anything of a great addition to our matchday setup. I know we are talking a different class, but Wolves brought on Jimenez and Trincao three minutes after Burke and they just looked supremely more capable. The Wolves defence must have been:

* snigger * "Daft cunts have took McGoldrick off and put Burke on"

"Yep. If he's on the ball, just drop off him and give him room to fuck it up."

Works every time.

That backheel was Sunday League shit. Might help if out of your peripheral vision, you clock the recipient moving into space. I could collectively hear thousands of United fans watching it either in Molynueax or on a stream go, "Oh, for fuck's sake, Burke!"

pommpey
 
pommpey said:
It's a deal.

I acknowledge, he ran around a bit. But he isn't anything of a great addition to our matchday setup. I know we are talking a different class, but Wolves brought on Jimenez and Trincao three minutes after Burke and they just looked supremely more capable. The Wolves defence must have been:

* snigger * "Daft cunts have took McGoldrick off and put Burke on"

"Yep. If he's on the ball, just drop off him and give him room to fuck it up."

Works every time.

That backheel was Sunday League shit. Might help if out of your peripheral vision, you clock the recipient moving into space. I could collectively hear thousands of United fans watching it either in Molynueax or on a stream go, "Oh, for fuck's sake, Burke!"

pommpey
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That backheel was mystifying. Great when it comes off but the awareness clearly wasn't there.
 
Strikers score. Mcgoldrick...... well, not so much. Time to go.
Can't believe anyone can be arsed to talk about Burke.
Berge bingo going on on here - 'only class player', saleable asset', 'in the shop window' blah blah. But really just an anonymous performance from the useless lump yet again. Never mind though, 'cos Napoli, Inter etc are just waiting to snap him up for £30m.......
 
derekacorah said:
I thought you were spot on about Berge, he looks like he should be really good on a football pitch and occasionally plays like it. But he’s powderpuff and seemed to pass the responsibility a hell of a lot today, like he was scared of the big bad Wolves.
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I think he's frightened to damage his hamstring again after an injury like that I can well imagine the way he feels
 
Deano said:
Berge was our only player to show any real quality. He’s wasted the way we play him though - he should be further forward as he glides past players at times.

I’m no fan of Burke but he was better than most when he came on.

We are not good enough to continually miss sitters and get away with it. Thanks for the memories Didzy but time to move on.
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Berge wondered around like a great lummox ,never broke sweat ,had no impact on the game and looked about as interested as I am in stickball. Admittedly we didnt get in until about a quarter past but no one said he was any good up to that point. Im dying for him to prove me wrong but there is no sign ,just people saying he is far too good for us ,on what evidence ?
 
to be fair Burke did one good run and a cross Sharp hit well and it was well saved.

he also spent the rest of his time on the pitch doing his Roadrunner impersonation beep beep

Robinson has made a name for himself ,,,,Kryton

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Hard not to agree, regardless of the loss to Wolves and despite the disillusioned place we are in the table we will not be going up. The play offs will be WBA, Blackburn, Boro and Forest. The teams around us are strengthening as we speak yet we’ve not signed anyone. Prince does not want us to go up it’s simple. It highlights the ambition of what Prince wants us to be which is a sustainable club… not in danger of relegation but no real threat of being promoted with the desire to develop a few youngsters and sell them on for profit. For the standard this championship campaign is terrible. We should be 3/4th. We have the same squad for 2/3 years. Hey ho…at least we get to watch Norwood, Stevens and Fleck for another season
 
I agree with your assessments mostly especially Osborne who for the life of me is so vastly overrated by many fans.
I just think he definitely puts in lots of effort but frankly his effort is so shit and un productive. His most irritating action is when he receives the ball he just checks back and mostly passes it backwards !! On top of that he is so short so adds nothing to a defensive show where the opposition are mainly tall players with more strength.
 

Can't argue much with that, Bash made a couple of howlers very similar to Robinson but got away with them, As I said elsewhere McGoldricks finishing is worse than Devon Loch (ask your elders and betters, a few didn't get the reference) and if scored as he should, with the dubious non-goal we could have had them really rattled. As you said, the difference is that bit of class and quality.
 
pommpey said:
Bit of a truncated My take as I only managed to get a stream on 35 minutes, by which time C3PO had lost his leg again and given Wolves the lead. Seems like it's his stock-in-trade doesn't it? And still players such as he are not transfer-listed.

It also seems to me that the margin between teams like us and teams like Wolves is 'class'. Whilst Wolves own players who can turn shit on and put teams like us to the sword ... or bring players on who simply go through the gears to do that, we huff and puff with players way below what their bought value was and still rely on three or so old-school evergreens - Sharp, McGoldrick and Basham mainly - to prop up a creaking setup bereft with errors and fuck ups and lapses in concentration. Don't get me wrong, I thought today we still showed we are a better prospect than Slavs shower of don't-wanna-play-like-this losers. We gave Wolves a bit of a game in periods, but we strained and we struggled, and we endeavoured to either overplay it, put in a shit cross or find row Z without their keeper being much troubled. Okay, Didsy missed a sitter and Sharps goal should have stood but we have Tierney who is basically David Ellerary's and Graham Poll's bastard lovechild. We were never gonna get a decision out of him. But for us we have ostensibly low-rent tryhards playing for us. Osborn would be fucking outstanding in Div One, Robinson possibly in the Sheffield Sunday League, players like Hourihane elsewhere but nowhere near our squad. We need a revamp and we need to start right now if we are not to be seen as a failing club again, despite recent resurgences. There's no way we should be stepping up, for example, to allow their two last goals and simply allowing them to be played onside. But we did. It's naivety and it's something we are great at. Its that stuff which remind us of what we actually are, and it sucks a satchel of big dicks.

We brought on substitutes and moved from 5-3-2 to 3-4-2-1 but we still looked vulnerable and behind the speed of play and to me it was only a matter of time before they went further ahead. It was a game that had some small plusses but really was a litmus test of our lack of strength in depth. We played our best and it wasn't good enough so any thoughts of playoffs>autos>promotion need to be tempered.

Outside of this we have a shitload of deadbeat players we now need to have a fire sale for and build the squad around the three veterans to move ahead ... then get solutions for them as they retire ... if we are to move forward. Today was a lesson where we need to be at and we are still a long way from that.

Foderingham 5/10: Fairly blame free game until his gaffe out wide in the box. Loses two points for that
RND 5/10: He's still a bit more fragile than Stevens, especially in the challenge
Robinson 2/10: We need Jack to be moved on now, bless him
Gordon 4/10: He's no Egan. There's room for development but he was caught too far up the pitch at times
Basham 6/10: Still seems to be in the right place and do the right thing, especially when we moved him into midfield
Bogle 5/10: I like Bogle. He's about the only signing Wilder made who has discharged his responsibility adequately but fuck me ... that cross in the second half
Osborn 4/10: Still Timmy Tryhard but nothing on the end of it. He is indicative of 'the gulf in class'
Hourihane 3.5/10: Cut price Norwood
Berge 4.5/10: An unremarkable outing for him
Sharp 5.5/10: Still the only player when the ball is pumped forward you can guarantee he is on the end of it or is challenging
McGoldrick 4/10: Fairly 'okay' game apart from the sitter, for which he loses a point

Freeman 3/10: Way past his best. Wolves bring Moutinho on, we bring Freeman on. Point made. He's like another Jose Baxter to me
Burke 2/10: Like Robinson, I sincerely hope this is his last game in an United shirt. He's fucking rubbish. His FIFA22 player is far better than him even with the settings tweaked downwards
Norwood 3/10: Came on. Started pointing. Did fuck all.
Ndaiye 5/10: At least tried to link and make openings, even though the game was done by the time he was on

No shows for Egan (off to 'Boro, I reckon) Brewster (gerrim selt) McBurnie (I think he's simply fucked off), Davies (?), Baldock (?), Fleck (?), Guediora (lol, he's just this season's Rodwell, isn't he?) and fucking sicknote Moussett.

This January Transfer Window is the best chance for us to straighten out the kinks in our squad and get us all facing the same direction.

pommpey
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No point transfer listing JR, only Luke Skywalker would buy him.

I was up in the North East taking my daughter back to University in Durham, and met up with some mates, including a couple of Boro fans who are in the early stages of Wilderlove (remember that anyone?) and Egan and Basham are done deals according to them, so let's see.
 
pommpey said:
It's a deal.

I acknowledge, he ran around a bit. But he isn't anything of a great addition to our matchday setup. I know we are talking a different class, but Wolves brought on Jimenez and Trincao three minutes after Burke and they just looked supremely more capable. The Wolves defence must have been:

* snigger * "Daft cunts have took McGoldrick off and put Burke on"

"Yep. If he's on the ball, just drop off him and give him room to fuck it up."

Works every time.

That backheel was Sunday League shit. Might help if out of your peripheral vision, you clock the recipient moving into space. I could collectively hear thousands of United fans watching it either in Molynueax or on a stream go, "Oh, for fuck's sake, Burke!"

pommpey
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I was one of them and the bloke sat next to me was another, to name two.
 
Tezza1889 said:
When you want to sell the oranges, you put the big juicy looking ones in the front window..

Hope this helps with everybody's questions on the questionable substitutions and team selections today..
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Whilst simultaneously getting them cup-tied in the process.....still, don't suppose many who will be interested in our cast-offs will still be in the FA Cup anyway!
 
Big Hitter said:
If Hecky picks McGoldrick again he wants charging with something, -not sure what
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Charged with at least picking players who try and show commitment for the cause rather than others who don’t seem to give a monkeys 🙊
 
pommpey said:
It's a deal.

I acknowledge, he ran around a bit. But he isn't anything of a great addition to our matchday setup. I know we are talking a different class, but Wolves brought on Jimenez and Trincao three minutes after Burke and they just looked supremely more capable. The Wolves defence must have been:

* snigger * "Daft cunts have took McGoldrick off and put Burke on"

"Yep. If he's on the ball, just drop off him and give him room to fuck it up."

Works every time.

That backheel was Sunday League shit. Might help if out of your peripheral vision, you clock the recipient moving into space. I could collectively hear thousands of United fans watching it either in Molynueax or on a stream go, "Oh, for fuck's sake, Burke!"

pommpey
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I'm usually quite sparing with my 'likes', but fair play, that's exactly what I said when he heeled it:

"For fucks sake."
 
pommpey said:
Had no idea on that.

Best of the best to Mrs Davies and their families.

pommpey
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Yeah by all accounts it's terminal and has been for a while but she's taken a turn for the worse recently hence Davies' omission from the matchday squads.

Really, really sad news as she can't be the sort age where that shit should be happening :(
 
pommpey said:
We brought on substitutes and moved from 5-3-2 to 3-4-2-1 but we still looked vulnerable and behind the speed of play and to me it was only a matter of time before they went further ahead. It was a game that had some small plusses but really was a litmus test of our lack of strength in depth. We played our best and it wasn't good enough so any thoughts of playoffs>autos>promotion need to be tempered.
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I'd temper this by reminding everyone a) it was our first game for a month, and b) we had a lot of players missing. We de facto can't play at our best if the team includes Gordon, Robinson and RND. It's makeshift.

A resurgent Derby away, with an eleven closer to full strength and the FA Cup minutes in the legs, will be the real test.
 

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