Simmo.....is he a liability?

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Discuss.

I think he is.

Two quality shots stopped.
Then ...........well I thought he could have done much better with both goals....and he almost gifted them an equaliser!!!!

Not good enough if we are going to go up automatically.
 



Discuss.

I think he is.

Two quality shots stopped.
Then ...........well I thought he could have done much better with both goals....and he almost gifted them an equaliser!!!!

Not good enough if we are going to go up automatically.

Without a doubt. Good shot stoppers come cheap. He can't be trusted and we need rid. Sadly, another vastly overpaid liability that we can't shift.

UTB
 
To be fair I thought that Maguire was just as much to blame for the chance to equalise. Having said that the first looked his fault although there has been the suggestion it deflected, and I thought he was very weak when coming for the second but some said it looked a foul.
 
This is a tough one. First half he kept us level with a world class save. He seemed assured and did a good job while some around him were poor. Second half, while I don't blame him directly for the goals he seemed to get sucked in to the 10 minutes of madness along with the back 4. As a seasoned pro, I expect leadership and a calming influence from him. What capped it for me was when 10 minutes from time and 3-2 up he came belting out of his goal for a ball he could never have got to and (I still don't know how) we should have conceded.

We need some proper competition and I think that actually is where the problem lies. He is a shoe in every week and doesn't have a good keeper breathing down his neck.
 
This is the most urgent situation that needs to be sorted at BDTBL.
 
the frustrating thing about Simmo is he'll pull of a worldclass save and from the resulting corner flap like a seal at it.
i'm not too worried yet as at this level we will get away with it alot more than we did last season.

Teams are gonna come at us like Walsall did and credit to them they deserved more out of the game, we just have to soak it up and then hit them
when they tire.

us as fans have to play our part and not get on the backs of players as soon as they make a mistake.

in the end we won and simmo has got out of jail as its the 3 point at the end of the day that are most important how we get the doesn't matter
 
the frustrating thing about Simmo is he'll pull of a worldclass save and from the resulting corner flap like a seal at it.
i'm not too worried yet as at this level we will get away with it alot more than we did last season.

Teams are gonna come at us like Walsall did and credit to them they deserved more out of the game, we just have to soak it up and then hit them
when they tire.

us as fans have to play our part and not get on the backs of players as soon as they make a mistake.

in the end we won and simmo has got out of jail as its the 3 point at the end of the day that are most important how we get the doesn't matter

Don't agree there Iggle, you see a lot more "bombs" coming into the box at this level, I watched the L1 goals this morning and particularly from corners they are taken very aggresively, (like Walsalls second last night) with the sole objective of getting as many big lads as possible charging the back 4 and keeper and just watch how many goals are "bundled" in as a result.

I was going to post the same about Simmo this morning, there was the slightest of deflections for the first and he flapped at the second. Liability for sure.
 
Simmo was a liabilty last night although he did keep us in it.
That said I think equally liable was Lowton he was caught out loads and his passing? People slag Montys passing but Lowtons was worse last night
 
Keepers make mistakes, it's going to happen whoever we have in there. He's has a good start to the season but as was bound to happen, as soon as an error occurs, the old doubts come back. Having said that, as I posted elsewhere, the defence we have at the mo, LJF, Maguire, Collins (I'm leaving out the new Jags in this one ;)) all have mistakes in them so these kind of things are going to happen. As iggle says above, with the general lack of quality in this division, we might get away with it more often than not, either with the strikers missing chances or the 'us scoring more than them' approach as it was last night.

DW knows we have a potential problem and wants competition for him so I'm not too worried at this stage even though the obvious frailties will only be a cross or corner away.
 
Seen the goals, both he could have done better. First - was there a deflection because he seems wrong footed. The second, well, we saw this alot last season, corner put right under the crossbar and he isdrawn to it like a moth to a flame. I hope teams havent sussed this one out already!
 
Echo what Jim has said, he's had a decent start to this season, and made some good saves, mistakes will happen.

Simmo just has to try to adapt and learn from them. I really think the GK coach needs to help him, even at Simmo's age and experience you can still learn to better you're game, sadly most of his mistakes come from corners (or crosses) and trying to claim the ball in a crowd of players, he tends to fumble the ball when under pressure from oppostion players, so get a few players around him when practicing his catching of crosses.

Help him adapt to the pressure by having others around him and then have the other players up the pressure on Simmo, bit by bit, he'll develop his confidence and also more strength when claiming the ball.
(Maybe they do this but after a season and a bit of similar mistakes I'd say they don't do it enough. But in my experience they do alot of GK work just with the keepers and and GK coach.)
 
He cost us more points than any other player last season. But so far this season appears to have played a lot better. But yes, the 2nd goal last night was bad but he made up for it with 2 fantastic saves.
 
Not good enough if we are going to go up automatically.

and after winning 3 out of 3 thats what has to be our aim now, i have to agree in order to do that we can't let soft goals in like that. Had it finished 2 nil our heads would be down for the next 2 away games, but as it turns out we had some fight and will go into them on a high but we won't be able to do that every week.
 
I really don't know about Simmo, the first one I thought wasn't his fault from where I sit, it seemed to taker a bobble at the last second and went over him. However the three other incidents in the Second half, I thought he could/should have done a lot better. Good shot stopper in general, but crosses and general commanding of his area, to me leaves much to be desired. There again I couldn't be a goalkeeper!
 



thought he was fouled for their second , just my point of view
is he any worse than De Gea at man utd , he looks a bit whoopsy daisy at times
easiest targets are always the keepers, all teams concede goals, even us
 
It probably has a lot to do with a settled, solid back 4. A keeper who has confidence in his back 4 will be more confident. When that back 4 contains mostly loan players, prone to lapses of concentration or overplaying, the keeper will be much more on edge, and therefore more likely to flap about. He'll come for balls that maybe he wouldn't do if he trusted his defenders more. Hopefully, we can keep a settled back 4 this season. And when (if?) Morgs comes back, we can be pretty confident the back 4 will be more solid.
 
The 1st goal didn't take a deflection...he just mis judged the flight of the shot. He wasn't fouled on the second, we were just quicker to react. He did pull of a couple of good saves but I feel he is going to cost you more points this season than he will win you.
 
I think he's looked a lot more confident so far although he has been hit and miss at times (such as last night), we've seen how good he can be-his loan spell and a few glimpses since the permanent move. The best way forward is someone who will provide competition so keep him on his toes, what has come of the trials of Alnwick and Duke? Are they still with us? Have they gone elsewhere?
 
There were at least 3-4 times last night where he spilled and could have/should have cost us a goal.

While you are right in that we are probably good enough to get ourselves back into some games that's still too many I'm afraid.
The other problem is that we seem to have been gifted with good keepers for the past 20 years so when we have one who's just a shot stopper its a shock to us.

While Mr McCabe is feeling generous maybe he'd fund a bid for Smithies in January :D
 
I was talking with Ollie on that very subject on Saturday, Bob. When I started watching the Blades we had both Kelly and Tracey, oh for that again! Add to that Mel Rees (tragically briefly), Andy Goram on loan and then Kenny, and I've been spoilt rotten with regards to 'Keepers.
 
walsall had done their homework and realised that anything dropped right under the bar causes simmo to flap a bit.. that said i was right behind the post for the save in the first half and it was truly world class.. so i'm a bit undecided.. perhaps it is something that can be worked out in training..
as for young matt lowton.. he had a shocker.. but he will have off games at his age.. and he did score.. irony was that it was hurst (ex blade) giving him the runaround.. thought he played well actually
 
While Mr McCabe is feeling generous maybe he'd fund a bid for Smithies in January :D

That'd be nice, I don't see it as a realistic target unless Huddersfield are having a shocker of a season while we fly high. I wonder what fee he'd command?
 
I remember reading on here countless calls for us to sign him after his loan spell.
I hope and believe it may have more to do with him needing a settled back four in front of him and getting his confidence back, which seemed to be the case this season.....until last night!!
 

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