Manager win percentage

[oldblade]

Was John Harris really in charge for what 1,300 + games?? !!

I must admit that I didn't notice those figures initially. I've now looked it up and the stats are for John Nicholson, but the 1970 date makes no sense. Also, whoever compiled the list has missed out Teddy Davidson, Reg Freeman, Joe Mercer, John Harris (X2) and Arthur Rowley. In other words everyone in between John Nicholson and Ken Furphy.

Harris was in charge for over 600 games during his two spells and had an overall win rate of slightly better than 42% which is actually more than 10% better than Haslam's not the 8.5% I quoted in my last post.

 

[oldblade]

We did have a John Nicholson,surely can't be right 30 years without a proper manager View attachment 123490

Initially all football decisions were taken by a committee. Nicholson was the secretary who carried out the decisions made by the committee. He remained in that post from 1899 until his death in 1932 which I believe came about as a result of some sort of road accident. I think he got knocked down by a car or some other motorised vehicle.

Believe it or not, road deaths were far higher in the 1930s than they are now. I think many of them were pedestrian casualties, probably because many people simply weren't used to the ever growing volume of motorised road traffic.

 

[SUFC Handsworth]

I must admit that I didn't notice those figures initially. I've now looked it up and the stats are for John Nicholson, but the 1970 date makes no sense. Also, whoever compiled the list has missed out Teddy Davidson, Reg Freeman, Joe Mercer, John Harris (X2) and Arthur Rowley. In other words everyone in between John Nicholson and Ken Furphy.

Harris was in charge for over 600 games during his two spells and had an overall win rate of slightly better than 42% which is actually more than 10% better than Haslam's not the 8.5% I quoted in my last post.

I tried to do a quick tot up in my head on the number of games Harris would have been in charge and had it around the 600 mark. I guess most of JHs games would have been in the top flight, ditto Bassett. In comparison Clough and Wilson's would have been in the third tier. I think most fans know who the best managers at the Lane have been (in more modern times Harris, Bassett, Wilder, with Warnock and Porterfield not far behind). The stats do make interesting reading though.

 

[oldblade]

I tried to do a quick tot up in my head on the number of games Harris would have been in charge and had it around the 600 mark. I guess most of JHs games would have been in the top flight, ditto Bassett. In comparison Clough and Wilson's would have been in the third tier. I think most fans know who the best managers at the Lane have been (in more modern times Harris, Bassett, Wilder, with Warnock and Porterfield not far behind). The stats do make interesting reading though.

I agree, they are quite interesting but win rate comparisons can meaningless if the people being compared were managing in different divisions. Wilson's 52% win rate is impressive, but can't really be compared with the 42% of Harris who was in charge for a far higher number of games, most of which took place two leagues higher up the tree.

 

[Revolution]

Initially all football decisions were taken by a committee. Nicholson was the secretary who carried out the decisions made by the committee. He remained in that post from 1899 until his death in 1932 which I believe came about as a result of some sort of road accident. I think he got knocked down by a car or some other motorised vehicle.

Believe it or not, road deaths were far higher in the 1930s than they are now. I think many of them were pedestrian casualties, probably because many people simply weren't used to the ever growing volume of motorised road traffic.

He was hit by a lorry outside Midland Station, en route to an away match.

 

[JJBlade]

Bring Danny Wilson back

Fantastic record, only spoiled a bit at the end when the club sold everything from under him

His face in the last couple of months reminded me of Wilders

 

[Silent Blade]

He was hit by a lorry outside Midland Station, en route to an away match.

The players were already in the Midland station when the accident happened. Then they took the train to Aston Villa. No surprise we lost 5-0

 

[Brewster Cost £70 million]

I do think in time slav will have a higher win percentage I've got faith in the guy

 

[Hagan's boot]

Initially all football decisions were taken by a committee. Nicholson was the secretary who carried out the decisions made by the committee. He remained in that post from 1899 until his death in 1932 which I believe came about as a result of some sort of road accident. I think he got knocked down by a car or some other motorised vehicle.

Believe it or not, road deaths were far higher in the 1930s than they are now. I think many of them were pedestrian casualties, probably because many people simply weren't used to the ever growing volume of motorised road traffic.

Possibly also the speed of the vehicles, and the very poor brakes on most cars in that era.

 

[Yarrayering]

So, our best manager was a pig. Great.

So, our best manager was a pig. Great.

Agreed mate he a pig, but imo a really good manager at the time for us and what a team we had .. We all know blades have gone up that year but... (cheds cock fkd us)

 

[BigBed]

Agreed mate he a pig, but imo a really good manager at the time for us and what a team we had .. We all know blades have gone up that year but... (cheds cock fkd us)

I used to live round the corner from Wilson, used to see him regularly, decent bloke, for a pig!, but I have to agree, he was a decent gaffer, and I thought he was sacked to soon.

 

[Old Programme seller]

The table tells a story of when we had money to spend and when we were skint football has always been amount money.

 

[Chilttheblade]

What ever people on here the best manager undoubtedly has been Wilder his win ratio was excellent despite one and half seasons in the premiership. I’m not saying that it wasn’t time for a change though every manager has their sell by date .

He got most of his wins in the third tier,all downhill from there.

 

[davidblade]

He got most of his wins in the third tier,all downhill from there.

We had two excellent seasons in the championship