CONFIRMED Aaron Ramsdale sold to Arsenal

[CPB]

I'm not one who's desperate to see him go or one who doesn't rate him but the argument for selling him is quite strong if the bid is over 20-22m.

• He didn't cost 18.75m to us last season so it would still be a profit.
• It would presumably increase the possibility to keep Berge.
• It would presumably mean bringing in players is made that bit easier.
• A chunk of the fanbase still have big doubts or don't rate him.
• At this level you don't necessarily need a £20m keeper.

The argument for keeping him of course is that you have a young keeper who if he continues to develop could be part of a successful journey with us.
Whilst it may be admirable to stick to our guns, if it's holding up bringing players in I'm not sure it's the best tactic.

Whilst in the Championship and League1 even in recent times we've sold to re-enforce.
We sold Brooks to bring in Egan and Norwood for instance.

 

[ancientblade]

I'm not one who's desperate to see him go or one who doesn't rate him but the argument for selling him is quite strong if the bid is over 20-22m.

• He didn't cost 18.75m to us last season so it would still be a profit.
• It would presumably increase the possibility to keep Berge.
• It would presumably mean bringing in players is made that bit easier.
• A chunk of the fanbase still have big doubts or don't rate him.
• At this level you don't necessarily need a £20m keeper.

The argument for keeping him of course is that you have a young keeper who if he continues to develop could be part of a successful journey with us.
Whilst it may be admirable to stick to our guns, if it's holding up bringing players in I'm not sure it's the best tactic.

Whilst in the Championship and League1 even in recent times we've sold to re-enforce.
We sold Brooks to bring in Egan and Norwood for instance.

i agree with what your saying if by selling rammy it frees up more money to get at least 2 more in besides davies viera and garner i think its worth it and still wouldnt suprise me if slav brought another striker in weve plenty of em but their all firing blanks

 

[Scarebus]

If homegrown is the direction they want to go in then yes. But with homegrown you're paying 25% more. They could get a half decent foreign keeper for £10-15m as they've always done. Martinez, Leno etc etc.

They don't need to go home grown they have a squad full of them.

Martinez was 'Home Grown'. But this is about squad maximisation. 17 none home grown players max in 25 man squad, plus unlimited u21s.

Runarsson takes a non home grown player spot in that quota, if they want to make a foreign outfield signing (Ødegaard) they need, ideally, to sign Ramsdale as #2 and move Runarsson off the books.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Martinez was 'Home Grown'. But this is about squad maximisation. 17 none home grown players max in 25 man squad, plus unlimited u21s.

Runarsson takes a non home grown player spot in that quota, if they want to make a foreign signing (Ødegaard) they need, ideally, to sign Ramsdale and move Runarsson off the books.

But they've surely got a lot more home grown players then most in the premiership I counted 10 in their squad from Friday and I'm no arsenal expert.

I think we’re getting an unbelievable deal at £25m plus for Ramsdale while we're a championship club. My worry is I have absolutely no confidence we’ll replace him or use the money to strengthen. I think you'll see a few loan signings come in and Verrips in goal for a while.

 

[Scarebus]

But they've surely got a lot more home grown players then most in the premiership I counted 10 in their squad from Friday and I'm no arsenal expert.

I think we’re getting an unbelievable deal at £25m plus for Ramsdale while we're a championship club. My worry is I have absolutely no confidence we’ll replace him or use the money to strengthen. I think you'll see a few loan signings come in and Verrips in goal for a while.

It's not about home grown quota, it's about none home grown quota. They are maxed out at 17 And they want Ødegaard. They free up a non home grown place by signing Ramsdale and removing Runarsson.

 

[albinonick]

You're doing an excellent impersonation of a barrister.
The irony in you not even acknowledging my question whilst simultaneously accusing me of dodging yours...

I think both sides will have leaked / planted the story. Ramsdale's agent will have asked Aaron how he feels. Once he has advised he'd rather move to Arsenal than stay here, the rest is in his hands. Do I think his agent then called a couple of Journalists to plant the story? Yes. Do I think Arsenal's people will have done the same thing? Yes.

I'm not sure what you think you're catching me out on? I don't believe Ramsdale is calling up the editor at The Sun personally & saying, "please could you put a story out that I want out of this shithole. I'm miserable." I doubt he's unhappy at Sheff Utd, but his heads probably been turned by one of the biggest clubs in the country. A higher level of football. A higher pay packet. London. With some of his England team mates.

Funny how u mention a Barrister! Your type of question was outlawed in court!! "Have you stopped beating your wife?
Or as you ask Your question about Aaron, sheffield and Arsenal!! Totally unfair.
However i will answer it for you!!
See you at the Hawthorns wednesday we can have a chat and i will tell you what Aaron said!

 

[CaptainMorgans]

There's no irony. If you simply won't answer my query I will not entertain an attempt to derail the discussion by answering a totally irrelevant question to be the matter we're discussing.
Now you've at least addressed the question, even if you've sat on the fence and softened your original position, Thank you.
I believe you are wrong and it's entirely from the Arsenal side, and I don't think he's trying to weaken our hand or force the deal through. If Arsenal meet our terms he'll happily talk to them, but he won't cause a fuss to get the move and if need be will happily stay.

I answered pretty consistently. I think Ramsdale would probably favour a move to Arsenal over staying here with us.
His agent will know his feelings. A combination of his agent & Arsenal will have leaked stories to the press in an attempt to make it happen. I don't think that makes Ramsdale a bad lad, I'm pretty sure all transfers these days are engineered in a similar fashion.

Funny how u mention a Barrister! Your type of question was outlawed in court!! "Have you stopped beating your wife?
Or as you ask Your question about Aaron, sheffield and Arsenal!! Totally unfair.
However i will answer it for you!!
See you at the Hawthorns wednesday we can have a chat and i will tell you what Aaron said!

I'm not really sure what this is. I asked a direct question to Flatulent_Bob :
Do you think Ramsdale would rather stay here, or move to Arsenal?

Its totally relevant to this thread, so unclear what is wrong about it or illegal(?!). The wife beating reference... Odd. Very odd.

Not sure why you'd only want to tell me your thoughts in person. Presume you're trying to act a bit of an online hard man. Bit embarrassing playing those games, so I'll swerve being drawn in to your weird antics. Thanks though.

 

[Withington Blade]

They’re in a lot of trouble and are a long way from building back up. Currently I’d only say they have saka who looks like a building block type play for a top 4 side. Maybe white and martinelli if they pan out. Others than that they’re recruitment has been appalling

Appreciate this isn’t a discussion about Arsenal and their woes, but they are an absolute shambles! Miles off the pace and will be for years. They used to be well run for the first 10-15 years of wenger’s management and then it all seemed to fall apart when Dein left his role. I thought after Ozil had rinsed them for £350k per week they might have learned their lesson but apparently Aubamyeng signed a similar deal last year and has been garbage ever since.

No wonder we’re standing firm on Ramsdale’s fee. Arsenal will probably be stupid enough to pay it when they get desperate enough.

 

[ancientblade]

Appreciate this isn’t a discussion about Arsenal and their woes, but they are an absolute shambles! Miles off the pace and will be for years. They used to be well run for the first 10-15 years of wenger’s management and then it all seemed to fall apart when Dein left his role. I thought after Ozil had rinsed them for £350k per week they might have learned their lesson but apparently Aubamyeng signed a similar deal last year and has been garbage ever since.

No wonder we’re standing firm on Ramsdale’s fee. Arsenal will probably be stupid enough to pay it when they get desperate enough.

oh they will definetly up their offer and like i said earlier if they offer 25m i very much doubt we will turn that down and maybe theres some truth in the robin olsen rumours from roma

 

[Yogi]

Appreciate this isn’t a discussion about Arsenal and their woes, but they are an absolute shambles! Miles off the pace and will be for years. They used to be well run for the first 10-15 years of wenger’s management and then it all seemed to fall apart when Dein left his role. I thought after Ozil had rinsed them for £350k per week they might have learned their lesson but apparently Aubamyeng signed a similar deal last year and has been garbage ever since.

No wonder we’re standing firm on Ramsdale’s fee. Arsenal will probably be stupid enough to pay it when they get desperate enough.

The rot starts at the top and there seems to be no desire to address it until that happens they’re screwed

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

It's not about home grown quota, it's about none home grown quota. They are maxed out at 17 And they want Ødegaard. They free up a non home grown place by signing Ramsdale and removing Runarsson.

Thanks, I don't fullyget it at all but you seem to so I'll agree there's clearly method behind their madness. £25-30m is silly money for Ramsdale.

I know fans on here want even more than that but that's not realistic either. Great shot stopper, distribution can be poor. Crossing worries me, when he cleaned out Egan? (possibly wrong) at the weekend for no reason because he was panicking over a cross.

 

[ancientblade]

Thanks, I don't fullyget it at all but you seem to so I'll agree there's clearly method behind their madness. £25-30m is silly money for Ramsdale.

I know fans on here want even more than that but that's not realistic either. Great shot stopper, distribution can be poor. Crossing worries me, when he cleaned out Egan? (possibly wrong) at the weekend for no reason because he was panicking over a cross.

if the arse offer 25m we will snatch their hands off

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

if the arse offer 25m we will snatch their hands off

Yep and so they should. It's just what we do with the money if anything! That money reimburse what we paid plus profit for him.

I have absolutely no faith that the prince can fund us if we fail to bounce back after our parachute payments. Suppose that's another debate, new thread!

 

[chesblade]

I answered pretty consistently. I think Ramsdale would probably favour a move to Arsenal over staying here with us.
His agent will know his feelings. A combination of his agent & Arsenal will have leaked stories to the press in an attempt to make it happen. I don't think that makes Ramsdale a bad lad, I'm pretty sure all transfers these days are engineered in a similar fashion.



I'm not really sure what this is. I asked a direct question to Flatulent_Bob :
Do you think Ramsdale would rather stay here, or move to Arsenal?

Its totally relevant to this thread, so unclear what is wrong about it or illegal(?!). The wife beating reference... Odd. Very odd.

Not sure why you'd only want to tell me your thoughts in person. Presume you're trying to act a bit of an online hard man. Bit embarrassing playing those games, so I'll swerve being drawn in to your weird antics. Thanks though.

Thought I had read on here that albionnick is related to rammers

 

[robbiez666]

if the arse offer 25m we will snatch their hands off

I'd take £20 million with a large sell-on clause tbh. If we can get 15-20% then that would hopefully be about the same.

 

[Grizzly blade]

I'd take £20 million with a large sell-on clause tbh. If we can get 15-20% then that would hopefully be about the same.

So…your suggestion is accept only £2m more than we allegedly paid…despite him now having 2 years prem experience and showing enough ability in the second half of the season to be considered good enough to sit on the bench for England while they made it to the final of a major tournament? All the while knowing he’s still very young and only going to get better and better with age?

Furthermore, you Chuck in the sell on clause knowing that he’s going to go up in value…then what you fail to take into account is that he’s going to a club that will probably hang on to him for a VERY long time given his age and potential. There’s a reason why Arsenal want him, they (and Spurs maybe) have seen the chance to get a possible England keeper for relative peanuts.

So with the greatest of respect, you’re nuts. £20m is nowhere near enough, and Akin to flogging Kyle Walker to Spurs all those years ago.

 

[RMBlade]

I'd take £20 million with a large sell-on clause tbh. If we can get 15-20% then that would hopefully be about the same.

They would have to sell him for £45m for us to see £5m with a 20% sell on clause

 

[Bladesman]

They would have to sell him for £45m for us to see £5m with a 20% sell on clause

Exactly, they have the money. They need to pay up or piss off.

 

[Le Cynique]

If we sell Rammers at this stage of the window we’re going to need to invest in attacking players as we’ll have to score three or four goals a game just to stay level.

 

[Grizzly blade]

The club should have come out and publicly said….”if our valuation is not met by 7th August the player will not be sold under any circumstances. So don’t bother calling to waste our time”

 

[albinonick]

I answered pretty consistently. I think Ramsdale would probably favour a move to Arsenal over staying here with us.
His agent will know his feelings. A combination of his agent & Arsenal will have leaked stories to the press in an attempt to make it happen. I don't think that makes Ramsdale a bad lad, I'm pretty sure all transfers these days are engineered in a similar fashion.



I'm not really sure what this is. I asked a direct question to Flatulent_Bob :
Do you think Ramsdale would rather stay here, or move to Arsenal?

Its totally relevant to this thread, so unclear what is wrong about it or illegal(?!). The wife beating reference... Odd. Very odd.

Not sure why you'd only want to tell me your thoughts in person. Presume you're trying to act a bit of an online hard man. Bit embarrassing playing those games, so I'll swerve being drawn in to your weird antics. Thanks though.

You asked me the same question!!
Never mind i see your play, think we will end it here, you probably dont go to games.
Enjoy!!

 

[robbiez666]

So…your suggestion is accept only £2m more than we allegedly paid…despite him now having 2 years prem experience and showing enough ability in the second half of the season to be considered good enough to sit on the bench for England while they made it to the final of a major tournament? All the while knowing he’s still very young and only going to get better and better with age?

Furthermore, you Chuck in the sell on clause knowing that he’s going to go up in value…then what you fail to take into account is that he’s going to a club that will probably hang on to him for a VERY long time given his age and potential. There’s a reason why Arsenal want him, they (and Spurs maybe) have seen the chance to get a possible England keeper for relative peanuts.

So with the greatest of respect, you’re nuts. £20m is nowhere near enough, and Akin to flogging Kyle Walker to Spurs all those years ago.

They would have to sell him for £45m for us to see £5m with a 20% sell on clause

For some reason I thought this was the Berge thread, so I agree with you!

 

[ancientblade]

dont think slav or the club are stupid enough not to have another keeper lined up if arsenal come in with a late acceptable bid think there could be somat in this link with olsen at roma but if not bringing davies and viera in will make us stronger defensively anyway so maybe verrips may be given a chance

 

[Ricardo Mantelban]

Just been watching the Blades Way podcast about the Davies signing. They discussed Rammers and they clearly know something they didn’t want to say. Thumb screws for YorkBlade anyone.

 

[mancunianblade]

He’s not big, not the fastest or strongest, and he’s not that tricky. As he gets older, I’m not sure what he can do to stay at a big side, other than be an extraordinary poacher.

maybe they should sell him to Blackburn for £1.1m and just watch from afar as he season by season drops further and further down the leagues

 

[jono_t2000]

You obviously know Nothing of Ramsdale,or his"camp"
There is no transfer request,there has been no interviews, as of last night in Swansea where his family watched him play as with every game his family go he was in good fettle and happy.
As for being a blade maybe if you could be bothered you may find out the back story of Ramsdales journey to Sheffield and his return to the city.
Dont think facts are a strong point.

I'm not saying he's unhappy or demanding to leave. But curious if any of his friends/family contacts you know actually said he was staying?

I was coming around to the idea that Rammers was staying but now convinced he's on his way.

Those who have said he's happy and no issues to you are playing innocent I think and saying what needs to be said not to ruffle feathers while things tick along behind the scenes.

 

[acko17]

hes staying

 

[Bladesman]

hes staying

Says who?

 

[BrianBadonde]

Says who?

Me

 

[Bladesman]

Me

I don't know who to believe.