CONFIRMED Aaron Ramsdale sold to Arsenal

[mancunianblade]

Dieng for £6m is a pipe dream.

Imagine we let Ramsdale go for the £20m quoted as acceptable by some on here and then QPR turn round and go £20m or nah

 

[Scarebus]

Imagine we let Ramsdale go for the £20m quoted as acceptable by some on here and then QPR turn round and go £20m or nah

He might be the difference between them going up or not. Well within their rights to ask for £20m.

 

[ancientblade]

Based on what? A newspaper journalist claiming he's "considering handing in a transfer request"? Has Ramsdale exclusively told that paper what his intentions are? And how come everytime this rumour resurfaces the fee is either less or the exact same? We've told arsenal his price, they've not met it.

if your talking about the 32.5m that was quoted last week theres no way arsenal will pay that but if they put a deal in place adding up to 25m i think we will sell after viera and davies we still need another 3 to come in

 

[FinBlade]

Ramsdale had clean sheet yesterday, that would be something new to Arsenal

 

[BridBladesman]

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[albinonick]

We love Sheffield United for personal reasons, usually it's handed down by our parents and we're from the area.

For Ramsdale, this is his career. He's not a Blade, he's got no reason to be particularly loyal to us
A lot of you giving it the big'n saying "why don't you go support Arsenal then..." etc.
Why don't you offer a decent argument rather than that nonsense?

It's incredibly obvious why the lad would want to go to Arsenal & I'd be very surprised if all of these stories about transfer requests and how gutted he is aren't being leaked by his camp.

You obviously know Nothing of Ramsdale,or his"camp"
There is no transfer request,there has been no interviews, as of last night in Swansea where his family watched him play as with every game his family go he was in good fettle and happy.
As for being a blade maybe if you could be bothered you may find out the back story of Ramsdales journey to Sheffield and his return to the city.
Dont think facts are a strong point.

 

[Silent Blade]

You obviously know Nothing of Ramsdale,or his"camp"
There is no transfer request,there has been no interviews, as of last night in Swansea where his family watched him play as with every game his family go he was in good fettle and happy.
As for being a blade maybe if you could be bothered you may find out the back story of Ramsdales journey to Sheffield and his return to the city.
Dont think facts are a strong point.

There you go CaptainMorgans , ATL Recs , FallowfieldBlade

 

[CaptainMorgans]

You obviously know Nothing of Ramsdale,or his"camp"
There is no transfer request,there has been no interviews, as of last night in Swansea where his family watched him play as with every game his family go he was in good fettle and happy.
As for being a blade maybe if you could be bothered you may find out the back story of Ramsdales journey to Sheffield and his return to the city.
Dont think facts are a strong point.

Managed to say a lot, without actually saying anything. Nobody has claimed that there has been a transfer request, nor that he's given any interviews. My guess would be that his Agent is planting stories on behalf of his client to keep the interest coming. Fairly normal football stuff

Can you clarify as to whether or not Ramsdale would rather move to Arsenal, or stay at Sheffield United?
If not, I'm not sure what your insider knowledge is offering to the conversation.

Ramsdale played at Swansea and his family were there watching. Ramsdale was in good spirits....

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

There you go CaptainMorgans , ATL Recs , FallowfieldBlade

Ive never said he’s handed in a transfer request I merely said that we are deluded as fans to not think a player would jump at a chance to join a club like arsenal from a club like ours

Any blades thinking ramsdale would rather be playing for us than arsenal are deluded

That doesn’t mean ramsdale doesn’t want to play for us he does he’d just rather play for arsenal

He has to and will carry on playing for us because arsenal won’t pay what we want

Ramadale isn’t staying because he’s a big blade

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Managed to say a lot, without actually saying anything. Nobody has claimed that there has been a transfer request, nor that he's given any interviews. My guess would be that his Agent is planting stories on behalf of his client to keep the interest coming. Fairly normal football stuff

Can you clarify as to whether or not Ramsdale would rather move to Arsenal, or stay at Sheffield United?
If not, I'm not sure what your insider knowledge is offering to the conversation.

Ramsdale played at Swansea and his family were there watching. Ramsdale was in good spirits....

You think it’s more likely Rammers is planting these stories rather than Arsenal putting them out?
That’s really questioning his professionalism and obviously totally ignores those with links to him who say it simply isn’t true as well as his performances of course.

 

[Yogi]

Was out in town with berge last night taking pictures with blades fans neither lad seemed uncomfortable or unsettled. Obviously both discussing sharing a flat in north London

 

[ancientblade]

Ive never said he’s handed in a transfer request I merely said that we are deluded as fans to not think a player would jump at a chance to join a club like arsenal from a club like ours

Any blades thinking ramsdale would rather be playing for us than arsenal are deluded

That doesn’t mean ramsdale doesn’t want to play for us he does he’d just rather play for arsenal

He has to and will carry on playing for us because arsenal won’t pay what we want

Ramadale isn’t staying because he’s a big blade

arsenal wont pay what were asking for thats for sure but it doesnt mean we wont accept some kind of offer from them if they increase their bid nearer to our valuation

 

[Snowflake]

Ive never said he’s handed in a transfer request I merely said that we are deluded as fans to not think a player would jump at a chance to join a club like arsenal from a club like ours

Any blades thinking ramsdale would rather be playing for us than arsenal are deluded

That doesn’t mean ramsdale doesn’t want to play for us he does he’d just rather play for arsenal

He has to and will carry on playing for us because arsenal won’t pay what we want

Ramadale isn’t staying because he’s a big blade

....but would he want to go to Arsenal if he wasn’t first choice ?

 

[CaptainMorgans]

You think it’s more likely Rammers is planting these stories rather than Arsenal putting them out?
That’s really questioning his professionalism and obviously totally ignores those with links to him who say it simply isn’t true as well as his performances of course.

I don't think it is questioning his professionalism. I firmly believe this is how football transfers work. Arsenal will have been in touch with Ramsdale's representatives and received encouragement. They would not be persisting like this otherwise.

 

[Inter_blade83]

Sooner this is over the better. He's not that great. If Arsenal meet our valuation he can go. If they can't, sod em. He can rot in the reserves if he gets the hump (I don't think he would btw).

Liking the stubbornness of the board. Makes a bloody change!

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I don't think it is questioning his professionalism. I firmly believe this is how football transfers work. Arsenal will have been in touch with Ramsdale's representatives and received encouragement. They would not be persisting like this otherwise.

Of course it is. You are saying he is deliberately feeding journalists stories that he is unhappy in order to facilitate a move away from the club.
That's questioning his professionalism.
No one is doubting that Rammers would talk to them if they want to sign him, but you are saying he's now agitating for a move and deliberately undermining the club to try and force it.

I will ask the question again as you ducked it. Do you believe this is more likely to be Rammers rather than Arsenal putting out these stories in order to force a low ball offer through?

 

[ancientblade]

Of course it is. You are saying he is deliberately feeding journalists stories that he is unhappy in order to facilitate a move away from the club.
That's questioning his professionalism.
No one is doubting that Rammers would talk to them if they want to sign him, but you are saying he's now agitating for a move and deliberately undermining the club to try and force it.

I will ask the question again as you ducked it. Do you believe this is more likely to be Rammers rather than Arsenal putting out these stories in order to force a low ball offer through?

just out of interest bob what figure do you think our board would accept for rammy ?

 

[Oreyt]

Was out in town with berge last night taking pictures with blades fans neither lad seemed uncomfortable or unsettled. Obviously both discussing sharing a flat in north London

Might just about be able to afford the rent between them.

 

[SouthportBlade]

Of course it is. You are saying he is deliberately feeding journalists stories that he is unhappy in order to facilitate a move away from the club.
That's questioning his professionalism.
No one is doubting that Rammers would talk to them if they want to sign him, but you are saying he's now agitating for a move and deliberately undermining the club to try and force it.

I will ask the question again as you ducked it. Do you believe this is more likely to be Rammers rather than Arsenal putting out these stories in order to force a low ball offer through?

No real idea the ins and out of transfers in general, and this one in particular. So not claiming to be right.

But I'd say an agents job is nearly always financially motivated, and at the very least to provide options to his client. A move to Arsenal is a big payday for Agent and Client. Whether these stories come from Ramsdale, Arsenal, Agents or United I've no idea. My hunch however, is that there remains a possibility of a deal and if Ramsdale was completely against it the story wouldn't be rumbling on - hence some involvement from an agent. Maybe not in the leaks as such, but I'd be surprised if conversations weren't still ongoing behind the scenes.

I don't think this is unprofessional or untoward, it's just part and parcel of the modern game and an agent doing his job.

Ramsdale can both be happy to stay and play for united, and be open to a move to Arsenal at the same time - its not linear, or mutually exclusive.

 

[ancientblade]

although weve put a 32.5m price on rammys head i think if arsenal up their offer to 25m and maybe add ons we would accept

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

If the Ramsdale sale is holding us up being able to get 4/5 better attacking creative players then we need to sell him.

Providing we get a good fee and possibly more importantly we've got a replacement lined up immediately.

£30m for a championship goalkeeper who's been relegated twice is a very decent fee. He may or may not be a £50m keeper in the future but he's unlikely to be that with us.

 

[Balham]

If the Ramsdale sale is holding us up being able to get 4/5 better attacking creative players then we need to sell him.

Providing we get a good fee and possibly more importantly we've got a replacement lined up immediately.

£30m for a championship goalkeeper who's been relegated twice is a very decent fee. He may or may not be a £50m keeper in the future but he's unlikely to be that with us.

We don't "need" to sell Ramsdale. We will sell him if we receive a bid which meets our asking price but at the moment Arsenal are trying to get him on the cheap - rumours that they're talking £20m including add-ons suggest that they're miles away at the moment.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Of course it is. You are saying he is deliberately feeding journalists stories that he is unhappy in order to facilitate a move away from the club.
That's questioning his professionalism.
No one is doubting that Rammers would talk to them if they want to sign him, but you are saying he's now agitating for a move and deliberately undermining the club to try and force it.

I will ask the question again as you ducked it. Do you believe this is more likely to be Rammers rather than Arsenal putting out these stories in order to force a low ball offer through?

No real idea the ins and out of transfers in general, and this one in particular. So not claiming to be right.

But I'd say an agents job is nearly always financially motivated, and at the very least to provide options to his client. A move to Arsenal is a big payday for Agent and Client. Whether these stories come from Ramsdale, Arsenal, Agents or United I've no idea. My hunch however, is that there remains a possibility of a deal and if Ramsdale was completely against it the story wouldn't be rumbling on - hence some involvement from an agent. Maybe not in the leaks as such, but I'd be surprised if conversations weren't still ongoing behind the scenes.

I don't think this is unprofessional or untoward, it's just part and parcel of the modern game and an agent doing his job.

Ramsdale can both be happy to stay and play for united, and be open to a move to Arsenal at the same time - its not linear, or mutually exclusive.

Pretty much what he said. I don't think it's unprofessional, or undermining the club.

I just know that this is how modern day transfers work. Club reps talk to player reps and feelings are made clear.
Whether it's the club, or the player's camp I don't think it makes any difference. They'll be conveying the same message from the same source.

Just for clarity, do you think Ramsdale would rather stay at Sheffield United than move to Arsenal?

 

[Kop sufferer]

I think the writing is on the wall with this, Arsenal, like us are a club, with a long and proud history, although in these times that counts for nowt.
Any decent up and coming player would be mad not to jump at the chance they offer.
Rammers has played this cool and by the book if he's leaving and good on him for doing so, just needs to be aware the current manager is walking on thin ice at the moment.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

just out of interest bob what figure do you think our board would accept for rammy ?

It's difficult because I don't know where we are in terms of a replacement and the costs involved. I'd say £25-30M sounds in the ball park.
Obviously there will be the questions around payment options, how long they have to pay it, how much upfront, and how much based on appearances.
I don't get the impression there is any wish to keep him against his will, but I don't see anything to suggest he's agitating for a move either.
He's being the perfect pro just as he has always been while he's been here, which is why I find The Captains comments so unfair and in keeping with his previous criticisms of him.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Pretty much what he said. I don't think it's unprofessional, or undermining the club.

I just know that this is how modern day transfers work. Club reps talk to player reps and feelings are made clear.
Whether it's the club, or the player's camp I don't think it makes any difference. They'll be conveying the same message from the same source.

Just for clarity, do you think Ramsdale would rather stay at Sheffield United than move to Arsenal?

Is there a reason that you won't answer a simple question? It's only based on what you have posted.
Last ask; is Rammers behind the leaks to the press, or do you think it's more likely to be Arsenal?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

No real idea the ins and out of transfers in general, and this one in particular. So not claiming to be right.

But I'd say an agents job is nearly always financially motivated, and at the very least to provide options to his client. A move to Arsenal is a big payday for Agent and Client. Whether these stories come from Ramsdale, Arsenal, Agents or United I've no idea. My hunch however, is that there remains a possibility of a deal and if Ramsdale was completely against it the story wouldn't be rumbling on - hence some involvement from an agent. Maybe not in the leaks as such, but I'd be surprised if conversations weren't still ongoing behind the scenes.

I don't think this is unprofessional or untoward, it's just part and parcel of the modern game and an agent doing his job.

Ramsdale can both be happy to stay and play for united, and be open to a move to Arsenal at the same time - its not linear, or mutually exclusive.

I'd disagree with your view on agents. Their actions generally are based on what is best for their client, and a lot of the time it happens to align also with the best financial package. Any agent pimping his client around for moves against the interests of the player are highly likely to find themselves unemployed pretty quickly. I know agents get a bad press from fans, but the vast majority are looking out for their clients and trying to do the best for their careers and long term stability. They just have no loyalty to the club, and why should they have? They are also a handy deflection for any blame fans may throw at players, that it's agent led and the player was just following advice.
Don't lose track of who is the employeer and who is the employee in these circumstances. The agent is always following the wishes of his client.

We don't know the details of what is being offered by Arsenal but we can all safely assume it will be more money than here, however I don't think it's a no-brainer for him to move as he also needs to be playing. A good season in the Championship could increase his profile and have other clubs of a similar pay level to Arsenal coming in, there is also the uncertainty of the managers position to consider. Arsenal aren't great payers when compared to say what Hendo managed to secure at Man Utd, so unless he's playing there's a significant risk of damaging his career by going and sitting indefinitely on the bench. If he's going to be starting, then yes, I'd agree it's a no-brainier.

I would agree with your last line, but that isn't what The Captain is suggesting, even though he's trying to slip out of it now. He said that Rammer is openly feeding the press with stories that he is unhappy in order to force our hand to sell him cheap. I think it is evidently more likely, and in keeping with Arsenal modus operandi to try and unsettle the player to drive down the cost.

 

[Bladesman]

If the Ramsdale sale is holding us up being able to get 4/5 better attacking creative players then we need to sell him.

Providing we get a good fee and possibly more importantly we've got a replacement lined up immediately.

£30m for a championship goalkeeper who's been relegated twice is a very decent fee. He may or may not be a £50m keeper in the future but he's unlikely to be that with us.

We would have sold him already if we were eager to sell. It would have been a McCabe give us whatever you want type of deal. "Wait please don't go! Okay, we will accept 3million over 3 years. Cheers Mikel, nice haircut"

 

[ancientblade]

It's difficult because I don't know where we are in terms of a replacement and the costs involved. I'd say £25-30M sounds in the ball park.
Obviously there will be the questions around payment options, how long they have to pay it, how much upfront, and how much based on appearances.
I don't get the impression there is any wish to keep him against his will, but I don't see anything to suggest he's agitating for a move either.
He's being the perfect pro just as he has always been while he's been here, which is why I find The Captains comments so unfair and in keeping with his previous criticisms of him.

i think if they offered us 25m and maybe a 20% sell on clause in the deal we will sell and im sure rammy would go probably treble his salary as well he would be mad to turn it down plus it might just enable us to get a good creative midfielder in and a wide attacker both of which i think were desperatly in need of

 

[RMBlade]

i think if they offered us 25m and maybe a 20% sell on clause in the deal we will sell and im sure rammy would go probably treble his salary as well he would be mad to turn it down plus it might just enable us to get a good creative midfielder in and a wide attacker both of which i think were desperatly in need of

I don’t think the sell on clause is too valuable in this situation.

If arsenal sell him for a profit it would have to be as a first choice keeper at Man U, City or Chelsea. For that to happen he would have to become one of the best goal keepers in the world.

If he flops he will be sold at a loss/released so no sell on fee there.

I’d happily not have a sell on clause and have a slightly higher fee