CONFIRMED Aaron Ramsdale sold to Arsenal

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Guesty said:
Aye, when he was at Palace. Being a young'un, I had to ask my Dad why our fans were all cheering for someone I didn't think had ever played for us!
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That's the one! I can't remember if he waved back/laughed etc?! I'm asking a lot for anyone to remember this I know!
 

ElephantBlade said:
Arsenal fans are a very, very, very strange breed. If you look up Ramsdale on Twitter its absolutely mental.
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Well personally I can understand where they're coming from. If I was an Arsenal fan I don't think I'd be too happy either. Not to say Rammers is not a solid enough keeper, just thought they would be looking at champions league goalies.
 
Barney said:
Well personally I can understand where they're coming from. If I was an Arsenal fan I don't think I'd be too happy either. Not to say Rammers is not a solid enough keeper, just thought they would be looking at champions league goalies.
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Only issue is the champs league goalies like to play in the champions League lmaooo
 
Ramsdale is 23, he doesn't want to be sat warming Arsenal's bench. I think if Arsenal had offloaded Leno, he may have been more keen to go.

Rammers seems like a grounded lad and knows he needs to be playing regular football not the odd cup match.
 
Bladesman said:
Ramsdale is 23, he doesn't want to be sat warming Arsenal's bench. I think if Arsenal had offloaded Leno, he may have been more keen to go.

Rammers seems like a grounded lad and knows he needs to be playing regular football not the odd cup match.
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Players now enjoy the lifestyle and title. Arsenal footballer sounds better than Sheffield United. Living in London on £70-80k a week sounds better than living in Sheffield on £30-40k (these are guesstimates but he will get a huge pay rise should he move). I'm not sure being a number 2 concerns them too much anymore regardless of their attitude.
 
Yogi said:
I’m not sure the me trying to buy something I can’t afford then finding out I can’t can’t afford it and being told that therefore I can’t have it counts as me telling the salesman to jog on.
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"I like your car. I want to buy your car"

"I don't want to sell my car. I like my car too. And it's my car"

"But I want to buy your car. How much for it?"

"It'd take £30k for me to even consider selling my car. It's really great for what I need so I'd rather keep it."

"But it's only worth £15k according to Autotrader!"

"Maybe, but I don't want to sell my car. I'd rather keep it"

"I'll give you £18k for it."

"No thank you."

"£20K max offer take it or leave it"

"I'll leave it"

"WELL F*** OFF THEN"

"I did tell you I didn't want to sell my car"

"IT'S A SHITE CAR ANYWAY AND YOU'RE A PUSSYHOLE BLUD"

"Ok...."

"YOUR CAR IS GUTTED AND WANTS TO BE WITH ME"

"...????"
 
beatific blade said:
"I like your car. I want to buy your car"

"I don't want to sell my car. I like my car too. And it's my car"

"But I want to buy your car. How much for it?"

"It'd take £30k for me to even consider selling my car. It's really great for what I need so I'd rather keep it."

"But it's only worth £15k according to Autotrader!"

"Maybe, but I don't want to sell my car. I'd rather keep it"

"I'll give you £18k for it."

"No thank you."

"£20K max offer take it or leave it"

"I'll leave it"

"WELL F*** OFF THEN"

"I did tell you I didn't want to sell my car"

"IT'S A SHITE CAR ANYWAY AND YOU'RE A PUSSYHOLE BLUD"

"Ok...."

"YOUR CAR IS GUTTED AND WANTS TO BE WITH ME"

"...????"
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This is spot on !
 
I don't see the need to put a spin on it. Seems pretty reasonable at face value if Ramsdale is worth more to us than Arsenal want to pay. Alright it took some injuries but Ramsdale has just been with the England squad while they made a final. We'd need to go out and spend money on a replacement. He's a developing player, plenty good for us now, but may be worth more later.

Meanwhile Arsenal are looking primarily for backup with the chance of future appearances should he fulfil his potential.

I can't speak to how Ramsdale feels but I doubt either club is particularly disappointed. We still have the player and they still have their money. Nobody's lost anything aside from the time spent on negotiations, but that's how buying and selling for millions goes sometimes. In spite of what Twitter might tell you there's no shame in walking away from a deal like this.
 

PokerBlade said:
I don't see the need to put a spin on it. Seems pretty reasonable at face value if Ramsdale is worth more to us than Arsenal want to pay. Alright it took some injuries but Ramsdale has just been with the England squad while they made a final. We'd need to go out and spend money on a replacement. He's a developing player, plenty good for us now, but may be worth more later.

Meanwhile Arsenal are looking primarily for backup with the chance of future appearances should he fulfil his potential.

I can't speak to how Ramsdale feels but I doubt either club is particularly disappointed. We still have the player and they still have their money. Nobody's lost anything aside from the time spent on negotiations, but that's how buying and selling for millions goes sometimes. In spite of what Twitter might tell you there's no shame in walking away from a deal like this.
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In isolation certainly not but in the context of the general malaise at arsenal of missing out on targets to other clubs, selling great young prospects and fringe players criminally cheap and signing older over the hill tosh on big wages it fits in nicely to a concerning recruitment pattern for them.
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
Players now enjoy the lifestyle and title. Arsenal footballer sounds better than Sheffield United. Living in London on £70-80k a week sounds better than living in Sheffield on £30-40k (these are guesstimates but he will get a huge pay rise should he move). I'm not sure being a number 2 concerns them too much anymore regardless of their attitude.
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Does it fuck sound better. London is a stabby shit hole full of miserable cunts.
 
beatific blade said:
"I like your car. I want to buy your car"

"I don't want to sell my car. I like my car too. And it's my car"

"But I want to buy your car. How much for it?"

"It'd take £30k for me to even consider selling my car. It's really great for what I need so I'd rather keep it."

"But it's only worth £15k according to Autotrader!"

"Maybe, but I don't want to sell my car. I'd rather keep it"

"I'll give you £18k for it."

"No thank you."

"£20K max offer take it or leave it"

"I'll leave it"

"WELL F*** OFF THEN"

"I did tell you I didn't want to sell my car"

"IT'S A SHITE CAR ANYWAY AND YOU'RE A PUSSYHOLE BLUD"

"Ok...."

"YOUR CAR IS GUTTED AND WANTS TO BE WITH ME"

"...????"
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Someone put this on the arsenal twitter feed please 😂
 
Yogi said:
In isolation certainly not but in the context of the general malaise at arsenal of missing out on targets to other clubs, selling great young prospects and fringe players criminally cheap and signing older over the hill tosh on big wages it fits in nicely to a concerning recruitment pattern for them.
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Oh yeah, they're not exactly the Arsenal of the Invincibles era right now, it's just the spin some fans and journos put on it that Arsenal's negotiators have somehow won a great victory by saying "That's more than we're willing to spend", or that United are greedy or whatever.

In a different context I heard this old story recently about an explorer who offered to trade the locals two bushels of tobacco for one sheep. And then the explorer says "I'll give you four bushels for two sheep" and the local refuses. He then goes away and comments on that the locals don't understand basic maths, of course missing that your last sheep might be worth a lot more than the one you're selling.

If we sell Ramsdale we're trading down. We need to go out and spend part of the fee on a new keeper, either one not as good or one a lot less experienced or both. And we still want that keeper to be capable of winning promotion this season. Perfectly reasonable for the board to say that the amount they'd need to see in the bank has to be pretty tasty before we sell. Perfectly reasonable for Arsenal's board to look at that figure and say they can get similar for less elsewhere.

If I do put a positive spin on it though, if this really has fallen through then I can't think of a time where we've so publicly put our foot down on selling players. Whether it turns out to be the right move or not, credit to them for not diagnosing him with sunstroke and giving us a speech on "cutting our cloth accordingly".
 
PokerBlade said:
Oh yeah, they're not exactly the Arsenal of the Invincibles era right now, it's just the spin some fans and journos put on it that Arsenal's negotiators have somehow won a great victory by saying "That's more than we're willing to spend", or that United are greedy or whatever.

In a different context I heard this old story recently about an explorer who offered to trade the locals two bushels of tobacco for one sheep. And then the explorer says "I'll give you four bushels for two sheep" and the local refuses. He then goes away and comments on that the locals don't understand basic maths, of course missing that your last sheep might be worth a lot more than the one you're selling.

If we sell Ramsdale we're trading down. We need to go out and spend part of the fee on a new keeper, either one not as good or one a lot less experienced or both. And we still want that keeper to be capable of winning promotion this season. Perfectly reasonable for the board to say that the amount they'd need to see in the bank has to be pretty tasty before we sell. Perfectly reasonable for Arsenal's board to look at that figure and say they can get similar for less elsewhere.

If I do put a positive spin on it though, if this really has fallen through then I can't think of a time where we've so publicly put our foot down on selling players. Whether it turns out to be the right move or not, credit to them for not diagnosing him with sunstroke and giving us a speech on "cutting our cloth accordingly".
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I makes sense arsenal have to be very very PR conscious at the moment in order to keep the baying masses on side it won’t take much for them to turn again now they’re a decent way into the arteta experiment and going nowhere. This doesn’t bother ownership but they need to keep the fans placated to keep the cash rolling in.

Yes to make selling ramsdale worth it to us the fee needs to be sufficiently high to allow us to replace him, strengthen other areas of the squad and put some aside for the day to day running of the club. The fact we can hold out for that kind of fee and not just sell to find the running of the club suggests we’re in a fairly stable financial position at least for now.
 
RMBlade said:
Why they haven’t offered the £6m that Ajax have accepted from Lyon for Onana is baffling. Yes he’s got a doping ban but the length has been reduced and he is free to play in a few months. Was regarded as one of the best young goal keepers in the world 6 months ago.
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They're desperate for a home grown keeper.
 
PokerBlade as a club this could be our “epochal event“ it would suggest, to some extent, that the board are comfortable with our financial footing. Turning down £18-20 million pound is not what a club desperate for cash does, regardless of the player in questions worth. It could also be Arsenal using media channels to call our bluff.

It sends a message to other clubs looking to use the weight of their standing to pull off cheaper deals that are convenient for themselves. Make no bones about it, currently, we have bloodied the noise of club with far more clout than ourselves and that makes me proud for now. This doesn’t stop Arsenal or others coming back in for Ramsdale but he remains ours for the time being.

The board may be looking at the squad situation and surmising that, even if we don’t sell Ramsdale/Berge we can still pursue money for both in the future. The team may have a better chance of promotion with these players still at the club and if it doesn’t come off you sell further down the line. This I believe would give Slav time to establish his style of play, and potentially give him the funds he needs next year to invest if we fall short.
 
robbiez666 said:
They're desperate for a home grown keeper.
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It seems strange that they need one.
Saka
Smith-Rowe
Martinelli
Balogun
Bellerin
Chambers
White
Holding
Mainland-Niles
Willock (although looks like going to newcastle)
Nketia
Nelson

that’s 12 homegrown players, how many do they need?
 

PokerBlade said:
Oh yeah, they're not exactly the Arsenal of the Invincibles era right now, it's just the spin some fans and journos put on it that Arsenal's negotiators have somehow won a great victory by saying "That's more than we're willing to spend", or that United are greedy or whatever.

In a different context I heard this old story recently about an explorer who offered to trade the locals two bushels of tobacco for one sheep. And then the explorer says "I'll give you four bushels for two sheep" and the local refuses. He then goes away and comments on that the locals don't understand basic maths, of course missing that your last sheep might be worth a lot more than the one you're selling.

If we sell Ramsdale we're trading down. We need to go out and spend part of the fee on a new keeper, either one not as good or one a lot less experienced or both. And we still want that keeper to be capable of winning promotion this season. Perfectly reasonable for the board to say that the amount they'd need to see in the bank has to be pretty tasty before we sell. Perfectly reasonable for Arsenal's board to look at that figure and say they can get similar for less elsewhere.

If I do put a positive spin on it though, if this really has fallen through then I can't think of a time where we've so publicly put our foot down on selling players. Whether it turns out to be the right move or not, credit to them for not diagnosing him with sunstroke and giving us a speech on "cutting our cloth accordingly".
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I fully believe if McCabe was sole owner, Rammers would already be in an Arsenal kit.

Actually, if McCabe was still owner I doubt we would have bought Ramsdale back in the first place.
 
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