Incoming? Ronaldo Vieira

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S6 Blade said:
Later in the thread he admits he doesn’t know anything. A week ago he was posting WhatsApp messages saying the deal for Viera is done. Just a load of attention seeking bollocks to try and make him look like he knows more than anyone else. The fact is Shields doesn’t get the info he once did from Wilders mates now CW has left the club.
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That’s a bit generous. He barely got anything while Wilder was here.
 

BrianBadonde said:
Bellends like this don’t help. ‘What I’m hearing’. Oh do fuck off. You know fuck all like rest of us. This is same bloke that ‘knows Ben Davies wants to come’

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I wouldn't listen to anything that guy says
He's one of the main reasons I deleted twitter after I pointed something out to him and he mocked how many ' followers ' I had
 
Frank the tank said:
I wouldn't listen to anything that guy says
He's one of the main reasons I deleted twitter after I pointed something out to him and he mocked how many ' followers ' I had
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All these people have always heard something and then they put a text in from a random guy.

I once heard Jokanovic catergorically wasn’t getting the job from someone who works for the club. Look how that turned out, nobody truly knows anything factual until it’s actual facts.
 
S6 Blade said:
He makes a good point. You know. The guy who works closely with the club and posts actual facts on his Twitter account.View attachment 118552
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It's like on football manager when you're chuffed after spending hours back and forth a club finally accepted your bid... only to find when you go to negotiate the players contract your wage budget isn't big enough and you've wasted all that time for nothing!
 
Frank the tank said:
I wouldn't listen to anything that guy says
He's one of the main reasons I deleted twitter after I pointed something out to him and he mocked how many ' followers ' I had
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I don't think anybody knows what goes off at any board level in any corporate company, except board members.
I would be bloody annoyed if any of my board members started leaking information about board meetings
These Twitter tweets are a load of cobblers, they know nowt
We just have to be patient, it'll happen
 
robbiez666 said:
1. Hasn't it basically been said by the club that we need to raise £40 million in player sales?
2. If Vieira has to isolate then he hasn't done e medical, but Isn't there elite athlete exclusion? Other teams are signing players from Europe.
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It was said that the club will be £40 million down in revenue because of relegation from the Premier League. That is a big difference to having to sell £40 million of players. Without knowing what the wage bill is because of relegation, there is no saying what the shortfall will be. First season in Prem we made £19 million profit. We don't know last years figures yet.
 
MobileBlade said:
It was said that the club will be £40 million down in revenue because of relegation from the Premier League. That is a big difference to having to sell £40 million of players. Without knowing what the wage bill is because of relegation, there is no saying what the shortfall will be. First season in Prem we made £19 million profit. We don't know last years figures yet.
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There’ll be relegation clauses in most contracts won’t there?
 

MobileBlade said:
It was said that the club will be £40 million down in revenue because of relegation from the Premier League. That is a big difference to having to sell £40 million of players. Without knowing what the wage bill is because of relegation, there is no saying what the shortfall will be. First season in Prem we made £19 million profit. We don't know last years figures yet.
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And that is the truth, but it gives idiots the ammunition to talk complete bollocks and spin whatever bullshit they want.
The club will earn £40 million less than last year.

It does not mean there has to be a panic fire sale to plug the gap, there isn't a gap, it just means we will earn £40 million less than last year.

It's only a problem if a club has not anticipated relegation and it's already been spent.
United have always had a relegation budget in mind, we could never be that confident or arrogant to assume we wouldn't go down.
 
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him behind you said:
Hopefully won't be doing any more if this is how he behaves....even if he's right.
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He takes a lot of flack on Twitter due to his connection to the owner. He’s a nice guy who always tries his best to reply to any genuine questions with what he’s allowed to say. I’ve no issue with him
 
SufcBilly said:
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He takes a lot of flack on Twitter due to his connection to the owner. He’s a nice guy who always tries his best to reply to any genuine questions with what he’s allowed to say. I’ve no issue with him
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Agree although he does tend to have loose lips at times. TBH if I owned or held an exec position at the club, I wouldn't want some of the info he shares being made public. I felt the same when Jim Phipps did it.

Personal opinions are fine but club info, particularly regarding yet to be completed transfers, should be kept under wraps IMHO.
 
Mouth of the South said:
Agree although he does tend to have loose lips at times. TBH if I owned or held an exec position at the club, I wouldn't want some of the info he shares being made public. I felt the same when Jim Phipps did it.

Personal opinions are fine but club info, particularly regarding yet to be completed transfers, should be kept under wraps IMHO.
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From what i gather, its not frowned upon, they like the direct communication between someone who knows enough and the fans. If it wasn't in their best interests it wouldn't happen and would've ended a while ago. He isn't doing it behind their backs, they know full well what he says.
 
Well, I was having a look here to see what the fuss was about, and apparently we're signing a player that's "not match fit yet" who we need urgently.

Forgive me for not getting excited about this till I see the green confirmed banner..

Ps, I think its funny that Alan Nixon knows nothing about our plans to get Mitrovic from Fulham..
 

JJBlade said:
And that is the truth, but it gives idiots the ammunition to talk complete bollocks and spin whatever bullshit they want.
The club will earn £40 million less than last year.

It does not mean there has to be a panic fire sale to plug the gap, there isn't a gap, it just means we will earn £40 million less than last year.

It's only a problem if a club has not anticipated relegation and it's already been spent.
United have always had a relegation budget in mind, we could never be that confident or arrogant to assume we wouldn't go down.
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While there are some idiots who don't understand that the revenue drop and player sales don't need to necessarily net one another out, it's not that difficult to do back of fag packet maths and realise that the £21m revenue from the promotion season + the parachute money of around £45m = £66m.

Wages in the promotion season (including bonuses) were £40m, in the first PL season they were £78m. Some have left and (hopefully) all will have a relegation reduction. That would leave the wage bill somewhere in the £45m-£50m region.

The amortisation of the players bought since promotion of Berge, Mousset, Ramsdale, Brewster, Freeman and McBurnie will be around £25m this financial year (I've assumed that we paid £97m for these players and that on average their contracts are for 4 years, I know some are longer and some shorter). This doesn't include amortisation for other players we already had prior to the PL as this will be miniscule in comparison.

Before we've paid for anything else that's a loss of £4m just with amortisation and wages. Other running costs in the promotion season were just under £11m, that's a £15m loss.

If I were Abdullah I'd sell a couple of players to a) reduce the wage bill a bit more b) reduce the amortisation a bit c) get some cash into the club instead of having to pay more out in transfer instalments.

Ultimately we don't have to sell but we're reliant on Abdullah's benevolence if we don't and I can't see him sanctioning transfer spend when the current outgoings are going to lead a loss of £15m+.

His train of thought might be to throw the kitchen sink at it this year with the high parachute payments and then drastically scale back if we fail, but that would be second guessing him.
 
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