Not Matteo or Hughton

[Rattly Noise]

Okay let's assume for the moment that it's not going to be Matteo or Hughton, which of the others mentioned can we appoint that won't lead to accusations of going for the cheap option?

Point being that whoever we appoint there's going to be loads calling for his head before he even sets foot in the door.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Its looking like we've missed the boat with Clayton Blackmore as well.

 

[Bladesway]

Well if we don't appoint Hughton or Matteo (which I think would shut many doubters like myself up sharpish) then haven't we gone for the cheap option? I know there is more to it than that but it does ring of same old SUFC if we don't actually speculate on a good Manager.

Personally I think there will be a lot of pontificating from people at SUFC, giving the good ones a chance to declare they are out and then Mark Robins will be named. There will be a lot of "We did try and get XYZ, but couldn't match their expectations" but the end result will be second best. I'm hoping to be wrong because a good appointment now would galvanise the support for next season. Imagine what a boost RDM would bring to the club and imagine the chances of retaining/obtaining quality players would be.

Get Bobbins in and imagine the collective groan.

 

[Oreyt]

Do you get a non-cheap option in the third tier?

 

[Houso]

Cheap option - not sacking Micky Adams.

Whoever we get now will not equate to the cheap option.

 

[SwissBlade]

Lets face it, whoever we get will be the cheap option!

My money is on Di Matteo on a 3 Month contract. We'll obviously promise him that there is money available to achieve success, which in reality means a 45 year loanee.

Di Matteo will leave after 2 and a half months when he gets the chance to manage Luton Town, because its his dream job. McCabe will then be happy to state that "we can't hold people back from their dreams" and "the compo will keep us afloat for another two weeks".

In the fall out, former Wednesday fullback Phil King will text McCabe about the vacant position which gets leaked by Seth Bennett on his twatter account, finally Rob Kozluk will get the job after fast tracking his UEFA Z badge whilst working at JJB sports trainers dept on weekends. Fans are ecstatic because Kozzy's kids are Blades....

 

[WhiteHawk]

Of course it'll be the cheap option. Probably Mark Robins.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

The cheap option? It's the Blades way under McCabe.

 

[Rattly Noise]

We all know it will be the cheap option (well what people call 'cheap'), but I asked for people's opinion on who won't be the cheap option (apart from Matteo or Hughton).

 

[Kev Gee]

Keith Hill?

 

[alcoblade]

All this talk about cheap options - I really don't understand it. A quick look at the books tells me that we've done very little on "the cheap". It's taking the shite option, time and time again, that's fucked us up. We threw money at Bryan Robson on popular but ridiculous signings. We took the polar opposite to "the cheap option" - and it's that legacy that precipitated where we are today.

Whatever option we now take should be part of a strategic, affordable plan. Len's not here to argue for it, but the money tree still doesn't exist.

UTB

 

[JJ Sefton]

We all know it will be the cheap option (well what people call 'cheap'), but I asked for people's opinion on who won't be the cheap option (apart from Matteo or Hughton).

Er, well, I dont imagine Guus Hiddinck would come cheap...

 

[stannyblade]

I am starting to come round to the idea of Robins. Given where we are at the minute he does know the lower league. But then again so did Adams so its just a sideways or even backward step.

Ok I've just talked myself out of Robins. Just hope its done sooner rather than later

 

[SwissBlade]

John Sheridan at Chesterfield anyone?

 

[Revolution]

John Sheridan at Chesterfield anyone?

The only place he's going is the Sty when Megson screws up next. He hates us anyway.

 

[JohnDenver]

John Sheridan at Chesterfield anyone?

The only place he's going is the Sty when Megson screws up next. He hates us anyway.

I like him for running head-long into a team mate on 17th November 1991, thus allowing Dane Whitehouse to pop one in in front of the Kop.

Never to be forgotten....

 

[BladeHearts]

If we don't get RDM, I am warming to the notion that in Pembo, the cheap option may well be the right one as well.

 

[sheffielder]

Can we rule out anyone who currently has a job like Hills, Tisdale etc; as we would have to ask for permission. Things are being kept very quiet but usually one of the clubs would have let something slip.

with RDM being my top choice because of the football he plays and the stature he would have amongst the young players at the club

Peter Reid - Blooded alot of youngsters at Plymouth due to their money problems and apparently played quite good football compared to the porkmeisters. Our youngsters are better and he will have a contact or two. Well liked within football... however would he be seen as too much like a Robson appointment

Robins - His teams seem to go through fits and starts. If he was frustrated at Barnsley the ever changing financial climate of the Lane might not suit him. Plus points for me is he appears to be single minded and won't care for reputations.

Tisdale / Hill - Plays good footballall and knows the lower leagues. Would their reputations be big enough to do this job considering we probably won't be able to get rid of all the dead wood at the club

Not sure I would consider anyone else.

If mix and match of pro's and youngsters is to be successful Mr McCabe needs to find a manger who would be respected by both groups, plays good football and commands respect without barking for it.

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If we don't get RDM, I am warming to the notion that in Pembo, the cheap option may well be the right one as well.

Personally I like the idea of having Paul Hart as his number two. Don't think it will happen though

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

People are forgetting that Pembo came into an excellent set up and inherited a very good crop of players when he took on the Academy job. Managing the 1st team is a completely different ball game and whilst he'd have a head start with the young 'uns, for me, it has to boil down to the fact that he has no football management experience which is not what we need at this stage.

 

[sheffielder]

People are forgetting that Pembo came into an excellent set up and inherited a very good crop of players when he took on the Academy job. Managing the 1st team is a completely different ball game and whilst he'd have a head start with the young 'uns, for me, it has to boil down to the fact that he has no football management experience which is not what we need at this stage.

I am not too sure about that. We certainly don't need more of the Adams, Blackwell types. We need a fresh approach. Who would you like Jim?

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Someone on the radio made a strange point about him possibly being in demand by larger clubs due to his success in the academy, so we should give him the manager's job to avoid losing him!

The way I look at it is, he's doing an excellent job with the youngsters and there is no guarantee he would be a succesful manager (though I think he could be). If he started poorly as manager the club would probably sack him and we would lose him anyway. If he did well, a bigger club would probably still swoop for him anyway! All things considered it seems a no brainer to let him carry on at his current job IMO.

Taking him out of the academy, the thing we brought him in to develop and the only aspect of the club performing well.....would be counter-productive in my view. Being (arguably) the cheap option is not the key issue.

 

[BladeHearts]

People are forgetting that Pembo came into an excellent set up and inherited a very good crop of players when he took on the Academy job. Managing the 1st team is a completely different ball game and whilst he'd have a head start with the young 'uns, for me, it has to boil down to the fact that he has no football management experience which is not what we need at this stage.

I would say that its very much a feather in Pembo's cap that he was able to build on that excellent set up and make it better.

Other than RDM, I don't think there is a stronger candidate in the frame.

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Someone on the radio made a strange point about him possibly being in demand by larger clubs due to his success in the academy, so we should give him the manager's job to avoid losing him!

The way I look at it is, he's doing an excellent job with the youngsters and there is no guarantee he would be a succesful manager (though I think he could be). If he started poorly as manager the club would probably sack him and we would lose him anyway. If he did well, a bigger club would probably still swoop for him anyway! All things considered it seems a no brainer to let him carry on at his current job IMO.

Taking him out of the academy, the thing we brought him in to develop and the only aspect of the club performing well.....would be counter-productive in my view. Being (arguably) the cheap option is not the key issue.

The future direction of the club requires a close relationship between the club and youth team manager.

As such even if Pembo moved to the club manager role he could still have oversight of the youth setup and ethos.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Other than RDM, I don't think there is a stronger candidate in the frame.

There isn't. RDM ticks nearly every box. I would suggest Hughton is almost as strong a candidate but judging from the speculation surrounding this job he doesn't appear to be in the running. I suspect neither will get the job.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

I am not too sure about that. We certainly don't need more of the Adams, Blackwell types. We need a fresh approach. Who would you like Jim?

It's a difficult one and hard to prioritise the order of qualities the new manager will need. It'll be a tough season and despite what people say, expectations will be high, which has it's own pressures. I think we're stuck in that it would be a step up for the likes of Hill and Tisdale, we're unlikely to attract the likes of di Matteo and Hughton as they'll get 'better' offers and we don't want to go down the round of the merry-go-round types such as Reid, Wilson etc. We do need experience but on the other hand, we need new ideas.

Ideally, we could nip back and take Holloway off the scrap heap he was on 2 years ago but that's the kind we need. Someone
with experience but the right philosophy. He was out of work but came back with a new approach, new ideas and it worked.

I'd be happy with RDM if we could thrash out a deal and I'd stick by what I said about O'Driscoll in January in that he is the right kind of person to change the philosophy. Other than that, I'd rather we went for a Hill than a Reid, a Tisdale over a Wilson but I don't envy the club this time around at all. I just hope we pick the right man for the right reasons, and not rule someone out purely because it would cost short term.

 

[Revolution]

There isn't. RDM ticks nearly every box. I would suggest Hughton is almost as strong a candidate but judging from the speculation surrounding this job he doesn't appear to be in the running. I suspect neither will get the job.

I would be amazed if either get the job. More likely is one of them (Hughton more likely) getting the West Ham job.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

The future direction of the club requires a close relationship between the club and youth team manager.

As such even if Pembo moved to the club manager role he could still have oversight of the youth setup and ethos.

But having an oversight and committing all of your time to a job are two entirely different things. Being first team manager is very time consuming and stressful at a big club. He would not be able to have anywhere near the sort of input on the youth setup that he has now. He was brought in to build a production line of young players and that is where he should stay. Changing the academy structure now could only be to its detriment at a time when its doing very well.

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I would be amazed if either get the job. More likely is one of them (Hughton more likely) getting the West Ham job.

I think West Ham would be crazy not to give that job to Hughton. It's tailor-made for him based on what he did in similar circumstances at Newcastle.

As far as the lane job is concerned.....I would be surprised if Robins didnt get it at this stage, I really would.

 

[Houso]

I'd rather have someone like Robins or Hill than Hughton.

I don't see the massive attraction to him personally.

 

[Revolution]

I don't see the massive attraction to him personally.

He did a damn good job at Newcastle in difficult circumstances.

Apropos of nothing, Hughton always sticks in my mind from childhood due to an answer he gave in Shoot's "Focus On" column. In answer to the category "Best friend" he put "my Mother in Law". This is the only time I have ever heard anyone express this sentiment.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

He did a damn good job at Newcastle in difficult circumstances.

Totally agree. Some people say he had a massive budget and good players. The reason Newcastle went down is because they were shit and were in freefall. Hughton completely turned them around and put confidence into them before guiding them to a 10th place in the PL and bizarrely being sacked! There was a lot of pressure to bounce straight back in style when he took over and he did it with a team full of overrated players and (at the time) bad attitudes.

 

[Jim Chimmerney]

Totally agree. Some people say he had a massive budget and good players. The reason Newcastle went down is because they were shit and were in freefall. Hughton completely turned them around and put confidence into them before guiding them to a 10th place in the PL and bizarrely being sacked! There was a lot of pressure to bounce straight back in style when he took over and he did it with a team full of overrated players and (at the time) bad attitudes.

A bit like Blackwell when he took over Robson's team......hang on.............