Should we sack Adams?

[Ollessendro]

Genuinly interested in how the masses feel.

There is a lot of debate on this and clearly we have camps of supporters and defenders. There are also some inbetweeners. I am interested in numbers and what the majority thinks.

Options:

1) Sack him NOW. Have seen enough. What a disaster. Not the man for the job.

2) Not sure. I am not convinced, but don’t want to lose another manager so quickly. I’d give him til the end of the season and see if he plays the kids, wins a few games and shows some signs. Wouldn’t really care if he resigned.

3) He deserves more time. Give him the summer, another transfer window and some time to build.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

I'm very much inclined to go with option 2. It would just seem daft at this stage (with us all but relegated) to change once again. Lets see if he can show any signs of improvement in the next few games and perhaps give him one more chance based on that. If he did walk so what?!

This season has jumped from one blunder to the next.....its a total write off. Losing another manager would just be the cherry on top.....but sacking him would just make us look a joke. Lets just get to the end of the season and have another look at things.

 

[Robbie]

I've voted, give him more time.
Only because I think we should give him until the end of the season and then assesing our options.

For me though, he will be in charge for the foreseeable future, especially considering he released some of the players as not needed. For me, this indicates that he is clearing a team for himself.

 

[Crazyblade]

Get rid. We're down as it is, and I sure as hell don't want the man anywhere near us for next season.

 

[sheffielder]

As much as I wouldn't mind him leaving and presently dislike him for his Stan Doyle and Oliver Collins signings there is still a part of me which thinks with a full preseason he could be the man to get us straight back up.

I think if he plays them both again tonight I will quickly move back to the sack him camp

 

[Ollessendro]

I'm very much inclined to go with option 2. It would just seem daft at this stage (with us all but relegated) to change once again. Lets see if he can show any signs of improvement in the next few games and perhaps give him one more chance based on that. If he did walk so what?!

This season has jumped from one blunder to the next.....its a total write off. Losing another manager would just be the cherry on top.....but sacking him would just make us look a joke. Lets just get to the end of the season and have another look at things.

I am with you on this SC. I have been vocal in my criticism of Adams, but cannot see the point in sacking him.

However I think we should reasess around the 10th of May. What I would be looking for between now is the following:
- win our remaining home games
- admit mistakes (i.e. drop Collins and maybe Doyle)
- send the crap back (if possible). All loan signings bar Riise sent back.
- give the kids and fringe players a chance. McAllister, Tonne, academy players etc
- some battling performances away from home
- some pride, passion and belief installed

I would hope (and expect him to) he walks if we don't show some of these signs. Either that or push him out and replace him if we don't tick most of those boxes.

 

[beechblade]

More time, he looks to be offloading players already as Robbie stated, I can't judge a manager by half a season and a few signings, do they make me happy not really stated it before, but I want to see him build his own squad and see how things change with Micky first, we've seen a few improvements with players and the way we sometimes utilise the ball but the core of what the team should have been was already damaged from the start.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Get shot now. Were down so spend the next couple of months looking for a decent manager so he can have a full pre season. Sadly, I dont think well get the next appointment right either.

 

[sheffielder]

I think the only way Micky can save himself now is by admitting he was sooo wrong about doyle and collins but that ain't going to happen

 

[Revolution]

As I have said before, I would fire him 5 minutes after the end of the last game of the season. Nothing can be done about this season, but this way we avoid him doing any more damage.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

I am with you on this SC. I have been vocal in my criticism of Adams, but cannot see the point in sacking him.

However I think we should reasess around the 10th of May. What I would be looking for between now is the following:
- win our remaining home games
- admit mistakes (i.e. drop Collins and maybe Doyle)
- send the crap back (if possible). All loan signings bar Riise sent back.
- give the kids and fringe players a chance. McAllister, Tonne, academy players etc
- some battling performances away from home
- some pride, passion and belief installed

I would hope (and expect him to) he walks if we don't show some of these signs. Either that or push him out and replace him if we don't tick most of those boxes.

I couldn't agree more. If we trudge along with the same team selection and carry on losing our home games then there isnt really a lot that can be said for keeping him in charge. Having said that, I dont think the directors have any plans to change manager again. I fully expect MA to be in charge at the start of next season regardless of what happens between now and the end of the season.

As you said Olle, it would be good to see Micky ticking some of those boxes between now and the end of the season. That would give me the belief that he can wipe the slate clean and take us forward with a good summer behind him. But he simply has to stop playing the loanees (except for Riise). The same goes for Collins, but Doyle I would maybe just keep around the team for experience if nothing else.

I would be looking to give game time to Conneely, Maguire, Whitehouse, Harriott, McAllister, Tonne and Slew between now and the end of the season. There are others that we need to start looking at as well but I would start with these lads for the time being as I think they could cope with the odd cameo appearance. In Harriott and Slew's case you could possibly give them the odd start. The pressure is off now IMO so lets give them the opportunity.

 

[JJ Sefton]

I wonder how many of the 'give him more time' votes are because they think that our board will only pick someone worse rather than any belief that Micky will suddenly come good.

 

[beechblade]

I'm of the my mind that he could come good as he has proved his worth with previous clubs, I'm not of the mind he's become a shit manager over night, but I wouldn't even know where the club would turn if he did go and thats a scary thought to be honest.

 

[Micalijo]

I think the only way Micky can save himself now is by admitting he was sooo wrong about doyle and collins but that ain't going to happen

Agreed, unless somat miraculous happens and he unearths some real talent this summer these two are going to really haunt him next term.

I feel for the bloke, like the bloke, he hasn;t really bullshitted his way through interviews like our Blackie yet, so it's more a case of putting him out of his misery before he suffers some real nasty stuff.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

If he picks Nosworthy and Collins together in defence yet again tonight, i really can't see why people would still be backing him.


The biggest arguments for keeping him seems to be so the club saves face, and that he should be given a full pre-season. On the 1st point, we already look like a comedy show, and on the second, we reward abject failure with getting another crack at it?

 

[SteelCity Blade]

The biggest arguments for keeping him seems to be so the club saves face, and that he should be given a full pre-season. On the 1st point, we already look like a comedy show, and on the second, we reward abject failure with getting another crack at it?

I dont think thats really the point Highbury. From my perspective we have made knee jerk decisions all season (e.g. sacking Blackwell, appointing Speed, signing Collins, Doyle and Bent just to get someone in) and nothing has improved our fortunes. Who exactly do we go for if we sack Micky now???? Pembo (inexperienced)? O'Driscoll (wouldnt want it)? I could go on.

Its not about rewarding failure. What we have to do now IMO is take this time (now that we're almost relegated) to reflect properly and have a look at things over the coming weeks. I'm not suggesting we should necessarily give him the summer.....I'm saying lets see if he can write off his mistakes and go back to the drawing board between now and May.....whats done is done, we're down and sacking Micky now wont change that.

If we sack him now what does that say to other managers? We've tasked him with saving us from the drop and although it looks all but settled, we sack him before our relegation is even confirmed?! When you accept the fact that it is far too little time for anyone to come in and save us now.....that kind of decision has more cons than pros IMO. It just makes us look ridiculous.

At the end of the day most of us can see Micky has made mistakes and I'm not saying you can keep giving people second chances but the man is human and it was a monumental task to begin with. Whilst it is impossible to deny his Blades record is poor, no one can say he hasnt done well at other clubs. He has a very respectable record so the proof is there that he isnt a bad manager. He is if you look at his Blades career in isolation, not if you look at his whole career.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

I can't really see anything to gain full stop. We're in the shit - maybe further than we should have been, maybe we were heading there anyway and he wasn't able to stop it.

Sack him - who else is going to come in. I think we will be scraping the bottom after the credibility we've lost this year.

Long-term backing - he's a long way to go to get himself back from this start.

On balance, doing nothing looks shit but marginally better than the alternative.

 

[TopBoy]

Got to be given more time, no club in the history of the game has been successful when constantly changing managers.

You can't judge a manager without them having been through a pre-season with a squad they've assembled.

 

[iggle-theblade]

I am not sure about it i feel he has had long enough to turn thing round and that the players he has brought in have mad the team worse Doyle and Collins

But i can't help think that this is only because of the state the club was in b4 he came and that these are the only players that would come to us for the money we were offereding pay shite get shite.

i wouldn't be too bothered if he went but also wont be taking my shoe's off in the car park if he stays

 

[norfolkblade]

We need to change the whole playing philosophy of the club.

Pembo has the kids playing football, and these kids won't really fit into the style of play of the 1st team, do we go for Di Matteo? Experience in League One and did fairly well from what I can remember, plus his style of play isn't too dis-similar from that of Pembo.

I don't know which way to turn now though, 4 managers in 9 calendar months is embarassing enough, and as has been said, we'll get nowhere without any managerial consistency, I just fear that giving Adams the summer, and it not paying off fast enough in League One will result in a season identical to this one, unfortunately there is no quick fix to this, and somebody, somewhere, needs to be given time to clear this mess right out.

 

[iggle-theblade]

agree its a major turning point for us and if we get it wrong we could be stuck in league one for a few years.

problem with names like Di Matteo is that if a big job came up he would go which is not what we need we need someone who is in it for the long haul.

i agree we need to change the playing philosophy as i too feel the youngsters are playing so well but wouldn't fit in to the style of the 1st team

 

[Highbury_Blade]

The worrying aspect of giving him a full preseason is what players he'll bring in. Judging by his choices so far i'm really fearful what the quality of the squad will be like come august.

For me the board has got to do what they should have done last summer, and said to blackwell, 'we want someone else in charge for next term.' This gives them time to make a (hopefully) decent appointment, and gives the new guy time to assess the state of the squad.

 

[B.Lade]

I flit between 2 and 3. The flitting brought about mainly by his substitutions against Boro.

I think I'd land on the side of 3 though, assuming he's willing to give some of the youngsters a chance next season. On the Collins front, although he doesn't cut it at this level, he was a part of Leeds promotion winning squad from Div 1. I'm not advocating him as first choice next season but he could be a useful squad player alongside Morgs (assuming he's able to resume playing) and that young lad from the U18's whose name I forget... Anyway, there's other threads for that.

 

[DronnieBlade]

B.

Although could do with a brush up on his use (and thus understanding) of the word "unplayable"

 

[axel smeets]

I'd consider myself to be a fan of Adams, so I would give him more time. I can understand why people want shut, although I don't feel that another manager so soon is the answer anyway.

But, the more important question is: what makes anyone think, even if we got a new manager in, that the wankers who run this club would make anywhere near the right choice anyway?

 

[SteelCity Blade]

I'd consider myself to be a fan of Adams, so I would give him more time. I can understand why people want shut, although I don't feel that another manager so soon is the answer anyway.

But, the more important question is: what makes anyone think, even if we got a new manager in, that the wankers who run this club would make anywhere near the right choice anyway?

This is a very interesting point actually and I think I kind of touched on it earlier. In most cases those that are unhappy with Adams are also unhappy with the directors.....yet they're happy to let them make a decision on another managerial appointment!

 

[Grecian2000]

problem with names like Di Matteo is that if a big job came up he would go which is not what we need we need someone who is in it for the long haul.

I don't really agree with this. We need a Red Adair to stop the hideous fire that is burning through the top tier of the club. If he stays for half a season and gets us pointing in the right direction then at least that's a start! Could fuck off to pastures new with his credibility still in tact having shown a way forward.
I believe we have the "green shoots" coming from the academy and I would like to see this as the strategy rather than being completely alien to the way the first team is being handled.

As I doubt Di Matteo has ever even heard of Sheffield I would suggest this isn't going to happen any time soon.

---------- Post added at 04:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:16 PM ----------

This is a very interesting point actually and I think I kind of touched on it earlier. In most cases those that are unhappy with Adams are also unhappy with the directors.....yet they're happy to let them make a decision on another managerial appointment!

I wouldn't trust them to appoint a fucking tea lady but what choice do you have? The lunatics are in charge of the asylum and if they throw enough shit at the wall some of it will stick eventually.

 

[BrianDeanesSon]

I would give him more time, but I do think the board need to sit down with him and get his plan for the next two years and see if that matches their aims. If not then we should get rid and start fresh

 

[Balham]

Frankly, I don't care who's in charge so long as the team is playing attractive football and getting results. The problem is that I don't remember very many occasions when we've had both.

As for Adams, he took on a difficult job and has failed so far. His signings have been, for the most part, awful but I would like to see if he's willing to play the "development" and youth players between now and the end of the season because that would indicate that there is longer term planning going on.

I really don't understand though why Marcus Bent has been on the bench for every game when I've looked more like scoring for us sitting at a desk at college in Hammersmith. Give Slew a chance.

 

[Zlatan]

Give him more time.

If we had a manager with the record Adams currently has a few seasons ago, then I'd say get rid. But with the manager merry-go-round we've had recently, I think it would be better to stick with him in terms of stability and not looking even more of a shambles than we already are.

As it's inevitable we are going to drop into League One, I think it would be best for all concerned to give him a pre-season and a chance to get his own side together. The last thing we need right now is a new person coming in and having to take the time to assess the setup, when we already have someone here with an idea of who he wants for next season.