Wilder Statement

[Revolution]

The vast majority recognise we'll most likely never have it as good again and are extremely sad that it fell apart in the way that it did. And the ovation he'll get if he's ever at Bramall Lane again will be the biggest since Deano came back for his second spell.

That remains to be seen. Deano got a quite different reception the first time he played there after his first spell....

 

[Torrix1889]

No I think you’ll find it’s because you’re talking nonsense.

Again....why am I talking nonsense?

 

[Bert]

That remains to be seen. Deano got a quite different reception the first time he played there after his first spell....

Unitedites booed Currie when he returned for Leeds.

 

[Carlton Blade]

That remains to be seen. Deano got a quite different reception the first time he played there after his first spell....

I know. I meant the Sunderland home game reception.

 

[Revolution]

I know. I meant the Sunderland home game reception.

I know what you meant. Just saying that it's too early to say what reception he gets. I lot will hinge on who he's managing and where that team is in the table in relation to us.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Again....why am I talking nonsense?

Well for one thing the revisionism has come from those who now slag wilder off constantly not those who continue to be appreciative of him. So the truth is the opposite of what you state.

 

[Nine Inch Nalis]

I don't think you're divisive or toxic. I also don't think a very small minority being complete dicks about Wilder is representative of the fan base. Complete guess but maybe 5 in a hundred have real issues with Wilder and it's mainly because he dared to be rich and successful (and they are pricks) and then he wanted more money. Like they wouldn't have done the exact same thing themselves.

The vast majority recognise we'll most likely never have it as good again and are extremely sad that it fell apart in the way that it did. And the ovation he'll get if he's ever at Bramall Lane again will be the biggest since Deano came back for his second spell.

That's a reasonable view to be fair, and you've described that sub-type in our fanbase perfectly. I think we certainly differ on the number of those who exist, but in the absence of evidence, I can't argue from a strong position.

 

[Carlton Blade]

I know what you meant. Just saying that it's too early to say what reception he gets. I lot will hinge on who he's managing and where that team is in the table in relation to us.

Fair points. But you'd think there'll be a time when he gets the proper reception he deserves

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Unitedites booed Currie when he returned for Leeds.

I didn't.

 

[Nine Inch Nalis]

I didn't.

Me neither, I avoided that by being born in 1985.

 

[Chingo]

The reason being that they weren't physically there to do it. If they had, there would've been scrapping on the back of the kop by November.

Nobody leaves here well thought of, and that's a fact.

Did you not see the polls where over 90% including me wanted him to stay for next season ?

 

[Bladezz]

It shows the difference in class between the Prince and Wilder.

Relationships break down and one party goes out respectfully and privately the other is all over social media saying how they will do better.

This is like Facebook but a premier league football club!!

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Me neither, I avoided that by being born in 1985.

You deliberately delayed your own birth to avoid seeing TC turn out in all white?!

 

[Nine Inch Nalis]

Did you not see the polls where over 90% including me wanted him to stay for next season ?

I did, and I saw a lot of names among that 90% who are now slagging him off. Suggests to me that most just like to spread negativity around for the sake of it.

 

[Nine Inch Nalis]

You deliberately delayed your own birth to avoid seeing TC turn out in all white?!

I think my dad just entered into a deep depression after Currie left and was unable to "perform" for several years

 

[yorkshirecoast]

It shows the difference in class between the Prince and Wilder.

Relationships break down and one party goes out respectfully and privately the other is all over social media saying how they will do better.

This is like Facebook but a premier league football club!!

I take it you missed all Wilder’s post match press conferences this season where he was slagging off the owners and blaming everyone and everything but himself?

 

[Carlton Blade]

No idea why "class" is being used so much. That's an S6 thing. Obsessed with how "classy" they are

 

[Bert]

I didn't.

Neither did Bert, but they were also singing "Currie is a fat twat", he lifted his shirt up to disprove them.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

I take it you missed all Wilder’s post match press conferences this season where he was slagging off the owners and blaming everyone and everything but himself?

In all seriousness, I did miss the press conferences where he slagged off the owners.
Could you provide a summary of which ones they were and what he said or even just list a few so I can go and take a look.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Neither did Bert, but they were also singing "Currie is a fat twat", he lifted his shirt up to disprove them.

Remember that well Bert.

 

[Bladeulike]

The statement isn’t ‘classy’ at all in my view. It’s bland, unprovocative and, to me, appears to have been drafted by a representative who probably had the NDA in front of him/her and navigated a way successfully through it. That’s absolutely fine and I understand that but it’s not exactly up there with ‘I have a dream’ is it? Actions speak louder than words and I maintain it would have been ‘classier’ for CW to have seen the season out and walked out the front door (as promised). Seeing this current horror show being played out in front of us with a cardboard cut-out as manager breaks my heart and could and should have been avoided by both CW and the board. Platitudinal statements such as this one are, I believe, as pointless and unimpactful as they are intended to be (from a legal perspective).

Having said that, I still think CW was the best manager we ever had and the journey was amazing. I wish him well and my overwhelming feeling now was that he, as an individual, probably just couldn’t take the immense, mounting pressure or face the final, record breaking humiliation and collapse of his team. I have to respect that in spite of my disappointment. Would I stand and applaud him if/when he returns to Bramall Lane? Absolutely..........as long as it isn’t with the pigs

 

[Chingo]

I did, and I saw a lot of names among that 90% who are now slagging him off. Suggests to me that most just like to spread negativity around for the sake of it.

Yes those will be the people who thought wilder was better than doing a runner because he couldn’t cope with how shit he had made us !

 

[nopigfansintown]

Might not have ended this way if everyone just shut up and got on with being relegated. Why anyone at the club would choose to stink the place out by slagging the board or being negative in any way really when you want to try and get the fans back onside for a Championship campaign after a season of being just about the worst team ever.

Thanks for the memories, but he could have flushed before he left instead of leaving a massive floater.

That's what CW has just done. If your talking about the Prince I couldn't agree more. His interview should've been limited to next steps, the future; not a character assasination .

 

[nopigfansintown]

I take it you missed all Wilder’s post match press conferences this season where he was slagging off the owners and blaming everyone and everything but himself?

Can you quote just one of them?...

 

[Nine Inch Nalis]

Yes those will be the people who thought wilder was better than doing a runner because he couldn’t cope with how shit he had made us !

Again, as I've been saying from the start, you don't know that, I don't know that and nobody who wasn't in the room the day he left knows that. People have been very quick to make judgements about his character and motivations.
It never seems to cross anybody's mind the possibility that whatever it was in those discussions when he left, might have led him to make the hardest and most gut-wrenching decision of his professional life. Instead they assume the worst possible motives on his part. He at least deserves the benefit of the doubt, as does Prince Abdullah when he's getting it from the other side.

 

[Bladeulike]

That's what CW has just done. If your talking about the Prince I couldn't agree more. His interview should've been limited to next steps, the future; not a character assasination .

But aren’t we slipping into hyperbole again here? PA’s interview appeared to me to be straight and honest and at least gave us his perspective (I completely respect people’s right not to beIieve him if they choose - because he said it does not make it ‘the truth’). I don’t think by any stretch, however, it was a ‘character assassination’. If PA had produced a similar, smoothing ‘thank you’ statement about CW such as the one CW has just put out, wouldn’t a lot of people on here be calling him out for ducking the issue and not being straight with fans?

 

[Nine Inch Nalis]

The statement isn’t ‘classy’ at all in my view. It’s bland, unprovocative and, to me, appears to have been drafted by a representative who probably had the NDA in front of

So you wanted a provocative statement I assume? And what would that entail? Wilder lashing out at the ownership and slagging everybody off?
What would the reaction be then? He'd be criticised for being bitter and resentful and shit-stirring.

No statement at all and people would be saying "Oh he doesn't give a fuck now he's got his nice big pay off".

Or we just have the statement that he actually made, which many don't think is "spicy" enough for their tastes.

There's no possible thing he could do without getting a negative reaction from some. Then again, for some, the negative reaction is the whole point.

 

[nopigfansintown]

But aren’t we slipping into hyperbole again here? PA’s interview appeared to me to be straight and honest and at least gave us his perspective (I completely respect people’s right not to beIieve him if they choose - because he said it does not make it ‘the truth’). I don’t think by any stretch, however, it was a ‘character assassination’. If PA had produced a similar, smoothing ‘thank you’ statement about CW such as the one CW has just put out, wouldn’t a lot of people on here be calling him out for ducking the issue and not being straight with fans?

No. He didn't really have to mention CW except maybe "we've decided to go our separate ways, thank you, and good luck for the future. This is our vision for the future"....

 

[Swinton Blade]

So you wanted a provocative statement I assume? And what would that entail? Wilder lashing out at the ownership and slagging everybody off?
What would the reaction be then? He'd be criticised for being bitter and resentful and shit-stirring.

No statement at all and people would be saying "Oh he doesn't give a fuck now he's got his nice big pay off".

Or we just have the statement that he actually made, which many don't think is "spicy" enough for their tastes.

There's no possible thing he could do without getting a negative reaction from some. Then again, for some, the negative reaction is the whole point.

Can't please everyone unfortunately, I thought the statement was good and well prepared.

Whats the point of a public back and forth between club and wilder.

 

[cc1]

Who leaves a club well thought of? Ferguson, Wenger (maybe)? Even Pochettino was getting slagged off by the end. Klopp is getting stick this year.

Fans are fans

Cheese is cheese